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.O Official Discussion

Labeled as discuss in Domain Extensions, started by CreativeMedia.us, Apr 6, 2020

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  1. Rob Monster

    Rob Monster CEO, Epik Epik.com Staff PRO VIP Gold Account

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    They use a proprietary resolver.

    Consider this:

    .o - https://moderntld.com/registrars/
    .bit - https://namecoin.org/dot-bit/
    .lib - https://emercoin.com/en/documentation/blockchain-services/emerdns/emerdns-introduction
    .coin - https://emercoin.com/en/documentation/blockchain-services/emerdns/emerdns-introduction
    .emc - https://emercoin.com/en/documentation/blockchain-services/emerdns/emerdns-introduction
    .bazar - https://emercoin.com/en/documentation/blockchain-services/emerdns/emerdns-introduction
    .fur - http://www.nic.fur
    .eth
    .bbs - [email protected]
    .chan - opennic.chan
    .cyb - opennic.cyb
    .dyn - be.libre
    .geek - be.libre
    .gopher - be.libre
    .indy - be.libre
    .libre - be.libre
    .neo - [email protected]
    .null - http://opennic.chan
    .oss - be.libre
    .oz - opennic.oz
    .parody - be.libre
    .pirate - [email protected]

    From our research, 90% websites above works only with using https://wiki.opennic.org Browser Addons

    As of today, the go-to plug-in has a whopping 6105 users:

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    It is trending up but it is insignificant.

    Our free VPN does more and is also free, so why bother installing a Blockchain DNS resolver when you can use the Epik Anonymize VPN for free.

    This is Wild West, Paul, and you know it. Epik is an order of magnitude more organized than most of the above listed bootstrap experiments with no revenue model and no infrastructure.

    I do believe we'll have alternate DNS and will be happy to become the leading registrar for these experiments. Ultimately the demand will be directly correlated to their utility in real life.

    So, we are working on:

    - DNS resolvers
    - WHOS services
    - Viable marketplaces

    If you know of someone doing more to make Alternate TLDs viable, please let me know.
     
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  2. cipcip

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  3. Paul

    Paul CTO, NamePros CTO VIP

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    @Rob Monster Please clarify whether Epik's .o and OpenNIC's .o are the same zone/root or separate. I've been lumping them together, but I'm getting the impression yours are separate, and I don't want to be spreading inaccurate information.
     
  4. Grilled

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    Thank you for trying to get a simple clarification.

    I'm still a bit confused.

    I assume others are too, especially those who read the first three lines of this threads opening post.
     
  5. Rob Monster

    Rob Monster CEO, Epik Epik.com Staff PRO VIP Gold Account

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    Good one.

    There is a large amount of very good open source solutions out there that you can build on to accelerate innovation.

    The Raspberry Pi, as well as many Android phones, pack a tremendous amount of processing power in a small space with low cost and low power usage. It offers a fascinating path for decentralizing the Internet.

    ICYMI, we are working on a new open source repository where these types of projects can be gifted to the world. You can see it staged here:

    https://uppersource.com/
     
  6. Rob Monster

    Rob Monster CEO, Epik Epik.com Staff PRO VIP Gold Account

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    It is separate.

    OpenNic, like NameCoin before it, is looking like an academic experiment with no commercial champion.

    If folks buy Alt domains at Epik, we'll at least make sure they resolve.

    As explained above, the various ways in which they can be resolved is being expanded.

    Also if someone wants to start their own Alt TLD, we provide that service.
     
  7. Paul

    Paul CTO, NamePros CTO VIP

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    Thanks for clarifying. That clears up quite a bit of the confusion on my end.
     
  8. Silentptnr

    Silentptnr Top Contributor VIP

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    Are the alt gtlds offered by Epik bound by the rules set out at opennic?
     
  9. h2o

    h2o Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Update: I just added the Blockchain DNS addon to Chrome and tested out both my single .geek name and .o name. In both cases I got an error from the DNS addon stating the resolution of both .geek and .o are temporarily unavailable. I am not sure if I am the only one having these problems though.
     
  10. cipcip

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    Same, but as pointed before, they should not work since they are 2 separate things. They do not belong to OpenNic.
     
  11. Rob Monster

    Rob Monster CEO, Epik Epik.com Staff PRO VIP Gold Account

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    They are not.

    We are evaluating whether to align with their initiative but as yet undecided.

    There is likely a win-win synthesis coming down the road though.
     
  12. Silentptnr

    Silentptnr Top Contributor VIP

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    Does that apply to single character .geek.

    What I'm saying is that I registered 8.geek. I then read about .geek on Opennic and subsequently the name got cancelled.

    Interestingly enough, another one that I registered got cancelled and I only noticed when I logged in and looked. I hadn't ever discussed the second name. The domain I found cancelled without discussion was cloud.geek. You can probably look into it. I would like both back if possible. Not sure what happened there.

    Is it possible, with Epik, to have a single character .geek?
     
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  13. Rob Monster

    Rob Monster CEO, Epik Epik.com Staff PRO VIP Gold Account

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    If it is available, than single character names are fair game. Example:

    http://marketplace.epik.com/1.truth

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  14. NameDeck

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    It has nothing to do with holding you to higher standards. The comment I referred to was patronizing.

    This kinda stuff wouldn't sit right with me no matter what registrar offers it.

    Concider this:

    And your response is:

    When you advertise it like:
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    Seriously?
     
  15. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent VIP Gold Account Trusted Blogger

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    I am not as technically smart as probably almost everyone on this thread, but now the distinction by @Rob Monster to @Paul Buonopane question that it is separate from OpenNIC, but that Epik were evaluating whether to work with them, makes this seem really confusing to me.

    I vaguely understand the rationale for a system of names outside ICANN and the standard DNS system. But it would seem to me hopelessly confusing that there is a .o that is OpenNIC and one that is Epik?

    I am not saying that there is not a role for an entity like Epik to offer a smooth scaleable way to register and keep track of them, and use the existing resources of Epik to resolve them smoothly. Just that it needs to be really clear all the parameters to the buyer and user.

    It seems to me that perhaps the thing to do is to not yet sell them, set up some sort of small beta trial, perhaps getting volunteers from NamePros, and then after all the things are sorted out launch them but in both registration, and when they are resold on your marketplace, clearly indicate that they are outside the standard domain ecosystem (whatever is the right term for them.... alternative ?).

    I do appreciate you coming on and answering questions here, Rob.

    Probably too simple minded, but just wanted to share my thoughts.

    Bob
     
  16. NameDeck

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    Amen :)
     
  17. PapaTama

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    @Rob Monster You have to find someone who is better at explaining like you
     
  18. bmugford

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    This is just another worthless, bogus "extension".

    Anything that requires a special setup such as root servers, software, add-on extensions is largely useless.

    Brad
     
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  19. Silentptnr

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    Yes but what if there is a world war or corporate internet takeover? Or an alien space war? :ROFL:
     
  20. Samer

    Samer Top Contributor VIP Blue Account

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    of all the OpenNIC extensions, .o is my favorite
     
  21. jmaurya

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    Suddenly all .geek / .o price go $199 ( pre order ) :unsure:
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  22. ikhub

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    @Rob Monster
    Can you please provide a link to any alt alt tld registered through Epik which has been developed or any one which have been developed by Epik (even a landing page) for trial?
     
  23. Samer

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    Very nice wikipedia page; lists all OpenNIC ext

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenNIC

    i stand what i said; .o is the best one out all
     
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  24. ikhub

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    That's not what I am looking for. Rob gave the list before. Unfortunately some of them does not work. As this is a .o discussion thread, I wanted to see a live page on a domain registered through Epik
     
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  25. Paul

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    This thread isn’t about OpenNIC’s .o, though. Rob has clarified that Epik’s .o is completely separate. Registering a .o domain at Epik won’t get you an OpenNIC .o domain.
     

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