Noob w/questions (PARKING & DEVELOPMENT)

[ernmen]

First let me say that I value the content you all have here on NP and really appreciate it.

Q1. When parking a domain is it necessary to also submit to search engines to generate traffic/CTR after setting up the kew words? Or is that taken car of by the parking service? I have some domains parked at Sedo...

Q2. When "developing" a domain, is it required to have a dedicated hosting acct/site for that one (or any certain) domain. How do I host the new domain and develop it without incurring costs for another web site hosting account? I currently have a consulting business and that website/hosting is already set up and running. Is it possible to leverage my consulting site hosting service for the "development" of the new domains purchased? If so, how? Is it as simple as redirecting the domains to different folders on the existing site? I am unclear on this...

Thanks.

 

[BitcoinDK]

First, Hi ernmen welcome to NamePros, enjoy your stay.

Second your questions:
Q1: You dont need to submit to search engines, but if you want to increase the traffic it is a good idea to do it, as well as mentioning your domains here and there , but keep in mind that some Parking Companies does not allow promoting/backlink building (is that the right word?) for parked domains, so read there rules before you do it.

Q2: I dont know if I have understood it right, but in most hosting companies you can host multiple domains/websites in one hosting, so you dont need hosting for each domain, one is enough. Some hosting companies only allow a certain amount of domains per hostingaccount, some has no limit. But be carefull with those without limit as they almost certain has some other rules, that makes it impossible to host many domains in one hostingaccount.

Most hosting companies use control panel so there customers can administrate there hostingaccount, mostly they either use DirectAdmin or Cpanel, but some also use there own control panel. They do the same thing in the end of the day, so which to prefer is up to ones own liking.

When you choose hosting, be realistic in what you need, cause sometimes people are too optimistic and buy something they dont need, overpaying. So be realistic, you can always get a bigger account if it comes to that. And as I mentioned before dont let you get fooled by the companies which promises unlimited everything, read there TOS and rules. Ironicly the "unlimited companies" are very nice to use when it comes to domains which dont need a lot of space or bandwith

Just my thoughts, everybody has there own likings, so I am sure there are others who disagree with what I have writen.

Best regards,

 

[ernmen]

Thanks for the reply 'testingyou', my hosting company does allow me to add domains to folders. With the (Add Domain Name to Sub-Folder + Email Service ($15/year) ( Live! ) setup. Is $15 a yr a good deal or should I shop elsewhere. Where do you host your "developed" domains and for how much? Or, is the $15 a year per "developed" domain name what I should come to expect if I am going to try and leverage developed domains for larger profits...???

Thanks again.

 

[BitcoinDK]

Hi,

Its hard to suggest any thing before knowing what you expect for traffic and how much space you need and how many websites/developed domains you are planning to have.

If you provide me with information on

- how many visitors a day/month do you expect?
- how much bandwidt do you expect a day/month?
- how much space do you need?
- what are your websites about (many hosting companies dont allow adult)

I would gladly give my opinion, when you have answered these.

But generally speaking $15 a year for hosting is really really cheap, but as I said, alot of factors are involved in what is best hosting for you, so maybe you dont need more?

Best regards,

 

[ernmen]

I really don't know the answers. The domains I picked up this weekend which I think will need development are real estate related...Should I develop or park? My goal is to generate earnings from these domains if possible.... Am I heading in the right direction? Thanks...

 

[BitcoinDK]

This would be better of parked, in my opionion.

This way you will also save the hosting price.

Its hard to say yes or no, to if you are going in the right direction, some would say yes because you have chosen a ver specific domain keywords.

Some would say no, the keywords, are not high value keywords.

They do not have high overture, but it is also very specific, so it could go both ways.

I like realestateforeclosurelaw.com better cause its not so specific.

Imo, if you are going to pick very specific domainnames, then it must be for high value keywords.

I will say, that before you buy think if you want to park them or develope them to a website.

If you are going to park, the lenght of the domain doesnt matter, imo, when you park the hyphens dont matter as much as, if you want to develope the domains.

If you are going to make a website and wants as much visitors as possible, the domain name should be easy to remember, pronounce, spell and brand.

These I would park.

Best regards,

 

[ernmen]

I used google keywords to select these and they had high advertising competition which I read a recommendation somewhere to look for. How would I determine keywords with high overture? Thanks...

 

[BitcoinDK]

estibot.com has a nice free and easy ovt tool.
I think you have to register for free to use it?
http://estibot.com/members/free/bulk-overture.php

 

[ernmen]

What would be a good overture ranking?

 

[BitcoinDK]

Imo, it depends on what your target market are for the domain.

You cant expect as high OVT on really specific niche keyword as with f.ex. "p*rn"

And normally the higher OVT, the more competitors.

But if we are speaking generally without taking in consediration niche keywords, then I would say around 70-80,000, but as I said this is not enough to choose your domains.

But when it comes to keywords, Im a noob. Im more into developing site and brand them.

So I am sure other NamePros members would help you more with the keyword-advice.

Good luck and best regards,

 

[nielsencl]

I apologize if I reapeat some of what was already said, but I thought I should also answer:

Q1. When parking a domain is it necessary to also submit to search engines to generate traffic/CTR after setting up the kew words? Or is that taken car of by the parking service? I have some domains parked at Sedo...

I don't know of any parking service that submits to search engines and directories. Some will optimize your domains so they are better indexed by any search engines that find them and others let you optimize the domains as you see fit.

If your domains are getting traffic, either from old links or from type-in traffic, then you don't need to submit and as was said MOST parking providers don't allow you to submit, get links, or in any way promote or market your domains. If you have poor quality domains with no traffic, you will make no money parking unless you do promote them. If that is the case you need to find parking services that DO allow promotion and you should contact them and make sure they allow it or you will find your account closed and all money lost. But you can also host a site on the domains and use affilliate programs or network advertising like AdSense to generate income. They you are free to promote your site as long is it is within the AdSense Terms of Service.

Q2. When "developing" a domain, is it required to have a dedicated hosting acct/site for that one (or any certain) domain. How do I host the new domain and develop it without incurring costs for another web site hosting account? I currently have a consulting business and that website/hosting is already set up and running. Is it possible to leverage my consulting site hosting service for the "development" of the new domains purchased? If so, how? Is it as simple as redirecting the domains to different folders on the existing site? I am unclear on this...

Most hosting accounts are "shared" hosting accounts which just means that your account shares a server with other accounts, or a "reseller" account, which is just like a shared account except that you can also provide hosting accounts for your customers and each has it's one access and file system.

Most shared accounts these days allow "parked domains" and "addon domains". A parked domain just means that if someone goes to it they see your main hosted site, just under another domain "parked" on the first one. You can add many parked domains in this way, but all show the same site.

Addon domains allow you to have many sites under one hosting account, but unlike a reseller account, the addon domains have a folder under the main site's file structure. I started out with getting reseller accounts, but only for my own sites, and generally a shared account is easier to use when working with many of your own domains and it's generally cheaper.

If your developed site is going to have a lot of traffic, you may need to get a dedicated server or a virtual dedicated account. But both are going to be much more expensive. If you outgrow your account you can generally upgrade or move the site later on.

Be careful with the really cheap hosting accounts. Some oversell accounts and later run into problems with slow servers, low hard drive space, etc. I can recommend Lacehost.com if you need really cheap hosting that is also pretty good. I have two shared hosting accounts with them.

 

[ernmen]

Thanks for the info. When speaking about 'estibot'. Is the membership worth it? How accurate is the "free" appraisal there? Do you recommend joining the fee based side...?

 

[BitcoinDK]

If it is me you are asking, I really dont know. I dont have the paid membership, I just have the free.

And remember when it comes to estibot, yes it is a great appraise tool, but the keyword here is "tool".

I normally use estibot for the statistic information it gives OVT, Wordtrack and so on.

Estibot.com says it best itself "IMPORTANT: Do not make a purchase or sale decision based on this appraisal"

Use it as a tool, dont buy or sell because of it.

 

[ernmen]

Another quick question about 'estibot' free appraisal. If that comes back good, say > $150. should I buy the domain asap and park/sell/develop...

 

[BitcoinDK]

you are joking right

If not then NO, just because Estibot.com appraise it high, doesnt mean it is any good. So NO dont buy because of Estibot.com.

 

[nielsencl]

Estibot.com says it best itself "IMPORTANT: Do not make a purchase or sale decision based on this appraisal"

Let me just add this:

I see domains offered for sale here at Namepros for hundreds and sometimes thousands of dollars, but in my view I would not buy them if they were offered at reg fee. I MIGHT buy them if they were only a dollar or two.

On the other hand I see domains that are being sold for $1-$2 or go at auction for only $1 and I consider some of these really, really good deals.

My point is that until you learn enough to know, or at least have a very good idea about what you are buying and what the value is, no one automated system can tell you very much about the true value of a domain. If it were just that easy, everyone would be doing it.

I would keep learning here, and look at a lot of the existing sale and see what people are asking for their domains and see what people are really buying for. Take the domain and check it on estibot. You may be surprised at what you find. Like I just checked a domain I sold about 6 months ago and Estibot says the value is $80. I sold that domain for $1,000. Esitibot is just a tool and not a percise one from what I have seen.

I don't think it can tell you anything about what a domain is worth if you are going to be parking it, and in buying for resale I think it depends greatly on finding the right buyer to get a good price.

 

[ernmen]

Thanks 'nielsencl' I also noticed that some domain appraisals I ran through estibot came back with "Reg Fee" as the valuation. I have to wonder if it came back very high and they want to snatch it up...can that be?

What 'free' appraisal or vlauation process do most domainers follow? Any recommendations? What are the general guidelines?

I am learning allot on keyword density and such and am basing my domain name research on that. Then passing them through various 'tools' for validation...

Thanks.