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I have been acquiring a few domains here and there over the last couple of years. I have not sold any at this point, although I have tried. I have a majority of my domains currently pointing to nameservers at DomainSponsor.com and a few with GoDaddy and am making a few cents on them, which hasn't impressed me in the least.

I now see that there is a serious crowd acquiring domains and either flipping them or monetizing them, if I'm using that term correctly. I very much would like to get into this and would need some guidance as to how I might go about this. I am fairly green in this area and would appreciate it if you folks could detail how I might go about getting started with this.

Many thanks!
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"making a few cents on them" is kinda how things are now. you can try devlopment which can be time consuming if your after quality. Try putting your name on a free and easy parking place and get a feel for the traffic your names have and consider developing the names that have traffic.
 
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re:selling-Not to be rude but have you considered that the domains you own are not that good? (not that I own 5 star, A1, primo generics)

re: parking-One of the best things to do is move you domains to different parking providers, some will perform better with one service over the other. Test them out, find where the do the best, tweak the KW selections & see where they thrive. It's not an exact science, if it were everyone would have the formula.

best of luck, don't get discouraged and read, read, read.
 
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notlikeyou said:
re:selling-Not to be rude but have you considered that the domains you own are not that good?

Exactly: This is the first mistake pretty much EVERY domainer makes. Myself included. Not bieng able to see exactly what makes a domain really worth money is one of the biggest hurdles to overcome. TechZone, you should expect that you are going to write off the registration cost for almost every domain you have registered so far. Stick to it and read a bit and you'll find you don't need to register nearly as many domains once you start to see which ones are actually worth getting.

There is a few really great tips in these forums and if you read deep enough you will find them. Here's one that comes to mind about choosing a good domain: (I'm sorry I forgot who said it so I can't give them proper credit)
There is only "one" thing to remember about a good domain. If people have to remeber more than one thing they won't remember your name.
To ellaborate a good domain will either be exactkeyword.tld where the tld is the one thing they need to remember, or it will be wordkeyword.com where word is the one thing to remember.

Some of your names have parts of phone numbers in them, .pro extensions? ect. Think about the person buying your names. Do you think if they wanted a wifi domain they couldn't find someone selling a better name than 1800wifi.com with a reasonable price.

BTW, 1800wifi doesn't work. There should be seven characters after the 1800 to make a valid phone number...

Boating.pro isnt bad. Not great, but not bad. You've got one keyword and the only thing people need to remember is the extension. If you built that one into a small site to show off what it can do, it might be saleable.
 
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I am guessing that I have been going about this very wrong. I have been acquiring domains that I like and that I have a keen interest in. I was hoping to monetize these as best as I could. It sounds like I should have actually been acquiring names that the general "Joe/Jane" public is interested in and their high CTR corresponding keywords. Am I offbase here?

I don't know PhP or any other web design languages. Is this absolutely necessary to really build a great parking site other than parking them at, like say DomainSponsor, where I currently have some parked, with little success?
 
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Take a look at some wordpress or joomla tutorials. You can make a website with little or no programming experience. Once you get them up, its easy to keep adding to them, and they almost always do better than a parked page.
 
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Techzone,

You can try not really parking services like whyPark which allows you to "park" your domains but with your own adsense code and real content. It would be up to you to build backlinks to your domains and earn something until you find time to develop these domains or find a buyer.

You really don't need to know php or anything with this service, its great alternative to traditional parking pages from sedo and others.
 
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I don't know PhP or any other web design languages. Is this absolutely necessary to really build a great parking site other than parking them at, like say DomainSponsor, where I currently have some parked, with little success?

The problem with parking them is that the only way you can really make anything more than pennies is to have traffic. Lots and lots of traffic. Now, you can't drive traffic to pretty much any parked domain, and the search engines have pretty much devalued parked domains coming up for a search (Google has almost completely devalued them; you can still get some love from Yahoo and MSN but it's fading fast) So without traffic, the only chance of making money is if you have domains that people will type in. Well that pretty much means you need a .com TLD, and you need something that people just naturally type in. Hard to find nowadays.

Whereas, if you develop, even on some mini-site level, you at least can work on ways to drive traffic to your domains, and make some money that way. The more you can develop, the better you will do. You say you bought domains that you have an interest in - then get yourself some cheap hosting that will allow you to install some blog or CMS software, and write about your interest.

You could also go the WhyPark route and have content generated for you, but I'm on record (all over the place) as thinking that these sites are problematic because they have a lot of duplicated articles. It sounds like they are working on a better model for the future, but that's the future.

You also have some TM issues in the domains you list.
 
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I've been with whypark for about 10 months now, so far I've put 5 domains out of 100 (honestly I forgot I had whypark account! too occupied with other projects) and 1 of them manage to get PR-1 with almost zero SEO, I know it's not great and all but it got me thinking that even with duplicate contents my domain still can get rank in google.

Now I am focusing on SEO for those domains to increase its PR and traffics.

netmeg said:
You could also go the WhyPark route and have content generated for you, but I'm on record (all over the place) as thinking that these sites are problematic because they have a lot of duplicated articles. It sounds like they are working on a better model for the future, but that's the future.
 
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Yah, one thing to note there is this phrase or if you republish content without adding any additional value.
 
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Yep, nobody can say your pages aren't enhanced.
 
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I would say you have ben very right to buy domains which you like, since obviously you have not developed a large portfolio, so it is probably not too taxing on your budget. I own myself only a few hundreds domains, but some I bought only because I knew I would enjoy having them (e.g. my family name in .gs and .tc, although I had it already in .info - or a few other domains which I bought just because I liked them, although I was not sure I could have any use for them). Since you are interested in those fields your domains are related to, there are also other people interested in them, and there might be ways to develop something.

Looking at your names, I think the best idea - if you can find some time - is to have a cheap hosting somewhere (for instance, ThePrimeHost.com is quite reliable and honest, has been in business for years, and offers an attractive multidomain hosting for a reasonable price), and to build a few minisites, as Netmeg rightly advised you. If the minisites contain useful information, even if not a lot of information, they may attract some decent traffic over time.

Another idea: if there is not a good directory of links in one of the fields you cover, why not to launch one? There are very good link directory tools on sale these days, some of them even with good support, such as the Link Directory sold by www.comdevweb.com (a firm in Malaysia, I was pleasantly surprised by excellent support received repeatedly for free for a piece of fostware costing only $75 - single license).

Of course, while you do not need to be a techie for doing that, some work for learning the basics of HTML, etc., would be required. But there are also tools these days allowing you to produce websites with very limited technical knowledge. If you are on Mac, as everybody should (well... I was still working with PC just 4 years ago, so I share here the zeal and fervour of the newly-converted), I would recommend RapidWeaver (not DreamWeaver, excellent, but much more complex). I assume there are such tools, with premade templates, etc., on PC as well.

I understand very much your questions, since I have only very recently started to attempt to monetize domains I have owned for years, most of them unusued. WhyPark is certainly one of the most attractive options for you, provided you manage to build traffic to the domains. But I feel there might be other solutions too, I am developing some ideas of my own right now and will try to test them over the next few months (if I find time to do - it can easily become time-consuming!), since I tend to think there is always a lot of space for creativity in such rapidly evolving fields!

Good luck - and if you develop at least a few minisites, I hope that you will list a few of them and that we can then visit them.

TechZone said:
I am guessing that I have been going about this very wrong. I have been acquiring domains that I like and that I have a keen interest in. I was hoping to monetize these as best as I could. It sounds like I should have actually been acquiring names that the general "Joe/Jane" public is interested in and their high CTR corresponding keywords. Am I offbase here?

I don't know PhP or any other web design languages. Is this absolutely necessary to really build a great parking site other than parking them at, like say DomainSponsor, where I currently have some parked, with little success?
 
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Awesome info!! Keep in coming!

I am going to look into WhyPark and setting up an acct to start. Has anyone had any luck with CJ.com? Suggestion as to possibly integrating this w/WhyPark?
 
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Me neither, even on my developed sites with tons of traffic (I get up to 70,000 uniques per day and I didn't get many CJ conversions) I think in order to make that work, you have to pick an offer, and build an entire site or at least a page around it.

L2, one thing you can do if you are worried about dupe content is to run your pages through copyscape.com - if there's anything out there that looks substantially like your pages (and isn't already owned by you, heh) you will see it there. Likewise, if you see a ton of your *own* pages, it might be a cause for concern as well.
 
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Funny, I just tried CopyScape yesterday for the lead article for one website done for me by PPC-Sites (www.ppc-sites.com - that is also a service which TechZone might consider, their new beta PHP version is excellent and allows one to change content easily even without any technical knowledge).

The lead article was excellent considering the topic of the website, well-written and useful for readers, so I assumed that CopyScape would find it at hundreds of other places, as it happens sometimes.

Well, I was in for a very pleasant surprise: there was only ONE other instance of use of that article... the original source, offering it for free use! Duplicate content, true, but not heavily duplicated.

Anyway, I agree with Netmeg entirely, Copyscape is very useful, and even a must in case you order articles from third parties in order to "feed" a website.
 
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Two roads diverged in a wood, and I, I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. - Robert Frost

I wouldn't reccomend you take the whypark path. There isn't anything wrong with whypark per se. However whenever something like it comes along almost everyone jumps on the boat. It eventually becomes unprofitable because everyone else is doing it. If you want to make some real money carve your own path.

It shouldn't take more than a days worth of hand holding for someone to teach you how to install wordpress. I'm not saying you should, but you could probably have a solid understanding of php in a week if you tried. Take the time and install a content management system like wordpress. Wordpress takes the learning curve away from writing html and allows you to use your own creativity to build a website that is unique. There is alot more to be found on the road less traveled.
 
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Where is RapidWeaver?!

Tribulatio said:
If you are on Mac, as everybody should (well... I was still working with PC just 4 years ago, so I share here the zeal and fervour of the newly-converted), I would recommend RapidWeaver (not DreamWeaver, excellent, but much more complex). I assume there are such tools, with premade templates, etc., on PC as well.

Being of the Mac persuasion myself I was interested to look at RapidWeaver. However, RapidWeaver.com is a domain park page! So where do I find info about RapidWeaver? Thanks.
 
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Sorry, I should have mentioned that (by the way, it shows once again how traffic can be attracted to the wrong page!). It is:

www.realmacsoftware.com

The forum is full of resources and very helpful for those who use RapidWeaver.

(By the way, if you look for Mac apps and don't find them, usually you can find them very easily on www.macupdate.com, faster than VersionTracker.)

Have fun! you will see, it is easy to build a site with RW.

canbrit said:
Being of the Mac persuasion myself I was interested to look at RapidWeaver. However, RapidWeaver.com is a domain park page! So where do I find info about RapidWeaver? Thanks.
 
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Check my sig, what else I need to say :)
 
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Thanks again for the awesome feedback!

Blaknite, in regards to WordPress, am I missing something here but isn't wordpress simply a blogging platform? I would still have to fill the site w/relevant ads or some sort of adwords system, correct?

Slight correction after some more reading at WP. It looks like WP occasionally runs their own Google ads. How does this jive with me wanting to run some of my own revenue generating ads?

What are the different scenarios that the free version would be used in contrast to the paid/premium version? Any examples of each out there? I'd obviously want to integrate it with one of my own domains.
 
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