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when you search for "software download" (which is a very competitive niche with more then 160k exact searches a month ) among all the .com web sites , on the third result on the first (!) page there is a .name web site - software-download.name ... ! :kickass:

thats the highest rank i saw for obscure domain extension in high competitive search term , do you have any more examples for domains with extension like that who hit it high on the SERPs ?
 
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do a search for "free WP templates" and you will see a .name ranking even higher, 2 that is....it all boils down to S E O !!! :)

Cheers

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Of all the things that go into good ranking, the domain is maybe 50 points of 5000 possible points (kick that up to maybe 250/5000 points for exact keyword match).

Domainers seem to think that the domain itself represents 2500 out of 5000 possible points that go into arbitrating rank.
 
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I have it in the 5th spot, but that is still great when you consider that there are at least 156 million results for the term.
 
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Of all the things that go into good ranking, the domain is maybe 50 points of 5000 possible points (kick that up to maybe 250/5000 points for exact keyword match).

Domainers seem to think that the domain itself represents 2500 out of 5000 possible points that go into arbitrating rank.

I have to conquer that a bit even you are right about the perception of domainer's but i also have a couple domains, exact keyword match and they rank on 1,2,3 for the keyword even there are big players/competitors with way more traffic...so i believe it is more than 50 points, maybe 51 or 52 :)

Cheers

Liquid
 
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Yea it's all about the seo but I wouldn't buy a .name unless it was domain.name or my name.name
:imho>:(least, but thats just my opinion.
 
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Someone was recently selling Chicago.name for like $70 or $80.

I'd shotgun my own testicles to own a pure chicago.gTLD, yet I couldn't even muster up any interest in it at $80.
 
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Chicago.name

Really. You'd shoot yourself for Chicago.name. D-: That's some serious dedication.
 
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.name still sucks :)
 
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Wow. That's a constructive comment. Is that all you do, troll around NP looking for something negative to say?
 
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Give me one "serious" website running on .name.
 
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Of all the things that go into good ranking, the domain is maybe 50 points of 5000 possible points (kick that up to maybe 250/5000 points for exact keyword match).

Domainers seem to think that the domain itself represents 2500 out of 5000 possible points that go into arbitrating rank.

I'd like to know your development experience. Because I can certainly say from my experience that a keyword rich domain is a huge factor.
 
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An exact keyword .com, .net, or .org can make life 100x easier for getting ranked in that specific term.

Interesting on the .name front. I'll have to monitor that.
 
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not really a fan of .name except for the few I own that are catchy hack types that would appeal to domainers only. I agree with labrocca that over my 9 years of developing an exact match keyword .com domain seems to have a bit more pull than 50 out of a possible 5000 points as I have about 100 sites currently on the front page of google with minimal effort, I have developed similar sites on domains that are not direct match domains and it takes more work to get ranked, unique content is still king but a matching domain definitely gives it quite a boost so the combo of unique content/matching domain does have a nice advantage. Not sure on .name getting ranked well as I only have those parked and have never developed the few I own.
 
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I probably should of let autos.name drop when it was expiring, but renewed it anyway. Key word is strong and maybe someday I'll get around to develop and seo to see what happens. I had much better hope for .name when I regged it. C'est la vie.
 
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It just goes to say that all extensions work you just need strong seo and great content. great job.
 
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I'd like to know your development experience.

None. Never developed. Just guessing.

Because I can certainly say from my experience that a keyword rich domain is a huge factor.

Based on what?
Your experiences with such domain/keyword juggernauts as 'debateful', or navigating the highly competitive 'free online sudoku' keyword space?

I'm not saying the domain is irrelevant- I do think there's merit to exact keyword match getting a decent boost- but in highly competitive keyword spaces, the boost provided by the domain is trivial at best. Sure, if you're going to rank for "Blue Unicorns In Omaha", the domain "BlueUnicornsInOmaha.com" alone might be enough to get you on p1- and in consort with good development and a SE strategy, the domain might make a meaningful difference, competition being equal. I think we generally agree on the sentiment, but differ on the significance. My opinion is in consort with most accepted beliefs in the SEO community. Yours is in consort with 'domainers'. I'm OK with where I'm at.

Again, let me reiterate (for the benefit of the tards): I'm not saying domain is irrelevant. I'm just saying that based on my experiences, it's not nearly as relevant as 'domainers' seem to think, unless your only goal is ranking adsense splogs with autogenerated bullshit content. In that case, yes, the domain is a big deal, since there isn't much effort being put towards anything else. Good luck getting any traction in a competitive space, though.
 
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Your experiences with such domain/keyword juggernauts as 'debateful', or navigating the highly competitive 'free online sudoku' keyword space?

Those are just a couple of my sites that I have linked from here. And I rank top 10 for free online sudoku with that site. I have a top 6k Alexa site right now too. I'd take my 15 years of development experience with 500 websites over your admitted zero development experience.

Odd you didn't mention my newest forum SupportForums.net which ranks #1 now for the term. Nice how you just dismissed that link. The traffic is increasing there monthly very well and so is activity. Development is not an overnight thing.

Others here can certainly agree with you if they choose but based on replies from people with development experience you're not convincing many.

I'm just saying that based on my experiences, it's not nearly as relevant as 'domainers' seem to think

But you just said your experience is zero? If you've taken keyword rich domains and parked them with bad results that's very different than taking the time to put some unique content and developing it. The only real time parking works well is type-in traffic and that's usually in the dot com namespace. That or typos of existing developed domains.

My opinion is in consort with most accepted beliefs in the SEO community. Yours is in consort with 'domainers'.

But you're not a developer? I'm confused because you claim no first hand experience but you're making statements as if you do. And I'm not sure what SEO circles you hang out with but the ones I've known consider a keyword rich domain as important.

Let me know if you ever get into development and have a success. I'd be curious to know if you had the same opinion.
 
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you might find you are #3 with a domain.name domain, but it's enough to make people suspicious of your site... and perhaps click #4, which is something like topdomain.com...

there's more to getting traffic than just SERPs
 
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