I was taken for $69 by securenamesale.com for a phony domain name appraisal scam. Yeah, I'm feeling pretty dumb, right about now, and I should have known better. Still....
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Domain is hidden by Domainsbyproxy.com, and i recommend everyone who has been victimized by securenamesale.com to send a certified letter (info available on domainsbyproxy.com web site) outlining the events that led you to believe it was a scam in the hopes they will unsubscribe them from the cloaking service, and thus reveal, via a new whois, who the shysters are.
I did so, and I offered the headers to the phony invoice they sent me, which contained a non-operative telephone contact number in the substance of the email, and the spoofed IP addies in the headers
Also, securenamesale.com is in no doubts either the same operator as the fake buyer of my domain that I offered for sale on Ebay, or they are collaborators in the scam.
Securenamesale.com uses Emetrix.com ( a function of Digital River ) which is a legitimate third party credit card service. This is good news because I know that the shysters do not have my CC info. I contacted Emetrix, and they are contacting the vendor ( the shysters) seeking an authorization to reverse the charges.
I assumed that the shysters would disappear, but Emetrix sent me copies of the emails they sent to the shysters, and to my suprise the shysters authorized a refund. Apparently the shysters are so successful that, rather than get in bad with Domainsbyproxy.com and Emetrix, probably using the logic that most people will not be as savvy as I to go through with all this, looking up headers, conducting whois searches ( they are wrong, I bet) that they have authorized a refund, ie., they have so many successful victims, better to refund than to bite the hand that helping them scam others. So that is good news. I could have reversed the charges with Amex, but that would have blacklisted me with Digital River, and they are all over the net, so I didn't want to go that route.
I advise everyone that, as soon as you get a recommendation from the phony buyer to purchase a domain appraisal from securenamesales.com (or domainmart, I think it was), to contact Domainsbyproxy.com and advise them of suspicious behaviour, and do it via certified mail to their legal department, the contact info of which is listed on their web site at domainsbyproxy.com
If you do a whois on securenamesales.com you will find it cloaked by domainbyproxy.com That is why I'm suggesting this, in the hopes thatl they will unsubscribe the securenamesale.com from their indentity cloaking service, thereby revealing the identity of the shysters.
I am, foremost, offering this info for those who have been taken, if you contact Emetrix.com, they have a nice support department and they will get you a refund without your having to reverse the charges on your credit card directly.
Patrick
Some items:
Domain is hidden by Domainsbyproxy.com, and i recommend everyone who has been victimized by securenamesale.com to send a certified letter (info available on domainsbyproxy.com web site) outlining the events that led you to believe it was a scam in the hopes they will unsubscribe them from the cloaking service, and thus reveal, via a new whois, who the shysters are.
I did so, and I offered the headers to the phony invoice they sent me, which contained a non-operative telephone contact number in the substance of the email, and the spoofed IP addies in the headers
Also, securenamesale.com is in no doubts either the same operator as the fake buyer of my domain that I offered for sale on Ebay, or they are collaborators in the scam.
Securenamesale.com uses Emetrix.com ( a function of Digital River ) which is a legitimate third party credit card service. This is good news because I know that the shysters do not have my CC info. I contacted Emetrix, and they are contacting the vendor ( the shysters) seeking an authorization to reverse the charges.
I assumed that the shysters would disappear, but Emetrix sent me copies of the emails they sent to the shysters, and to my suprise the shysters authorized a refund. Apparently the shysters are so successful that, rather than get in bad with Domainsbyproxy.com and Emetrix, probably using the logic that most people will not be as savvy as I to go through with all this, looking up headers, conducting whois searches ( they are wrong, I bet) that they have authorized a refund, ie., they have so many successful victims, better to refund than to bite the hand that helping them scam others. So that is good news. I could have reversed the charges with Amex, but that would have blacklisted me with Digital River, and they are all over the net, so I didn't want to go that route.
I advise everyone that, as soon as you get a recommendation from the phony buyer to purchase a domain appraisal from securenamesales.com (or domainmart, I think it was), to contact Domainsbyproxy.com and advise them of suspicious behaviour, and do it via certified mail to their legal department, the contact info of which is listed on their web site at domainsbyproxy.com
If you do a whois on securenamesales.com you will find it cloaked by domainbyproxy.com That is why I'm suggesting this, in the hopes thatl they will unsubscribe the securenamesale.com from their indentity cloaking service, thereby revealing the identity of the shysters.
I am, foremost, offering this info for those who have been taken, if you contact Emetrix.com, they have a nice support department and they will get you a refund without your having to reverse the charges on your credit card directly.
Patrick
