new gtlds Mike Mann: “Read my lips gTLDs are D*E*A*D, absolutely no demand!”

[lennco]

Mike Mann shared on Facebook my article about the bad landrush phase that .Blog domains had last week and also shared his views on the New gTLDs in general:

Read my lips gTLDs are D*E*A*D, absolutely no demand! This was the best out of thousands, along with .web and .app Better luck with other snake oil. .Com stays king. If you also voted for Hillary, rough week. TYVMI.

He also made several other comments about new extensions such as:

How about don’t but them at all, they serve no purpose and cause many problems, and waste a lot of time and money.

Now that everyone knows gTLDs are dead, please Google “Mike Mann gTLDs” and you will see I hit the predictions spot on.

He continued by quoting my article:

Ruggh ruoggh, too many scooby snacks: “So the .blog registry made more than $150,000 from the landrush phase. That doesn’t seem bad but the registry spent $19 million to get rights for the .blog new extension.” Not counting millions per year of overhead. Lesson learned, listen to the mann next time and stick with .Com

He then made more comments like:

“Don't renew your fancy new gtld domains. The experiment is over. No material resale market will take root.”

Mike replied to a comment made by Phil Harris

26 million registered and new sites being launched daily .. X.company being used by Google , Rightside stock just raised to buy status by zachs investment firm .. Awareness growing , secondary 6 figure sales being made , Mike I would say you should watch the movie God is not dead ..

by saying

sure sounds like a bubble

Mike today talked about Google and .soy:

Google spent some energy telling me how ".soy" domain extension was going to be the next big thing a while back, I tried to splain what was up….. Not to discount the fine folks, fancy offices, and great buffet. Googs, gimme a buzz, I’m still a know it all.

Drinking own Koolaid instead of listening to grassroots in the streets

Technically I havent checked the sales numbers but lets take a wild guess, dramatically lower than their expenses…….. like I told them nicely before they invested

Konstantinos Zournas November 14, 2016
http://onlinedomain.com/2016/11/14/...nn-read-lips-gtlds-dead-absolutely-no-demand/

 

[JB Lions]

You seriously don't know he's the admin of Namepros?

New gltds have been a boon for Namepros, Captain Obvious type stuff. If you charted post count by year, I would imagine you would see a spike when new gtlds came on the scene. If I had a domain forum, I would be happy about this too.

 

[atinc]

You seriously don't know he's the admin of Namepros?

So what? Can`t he have ideas?

He is also a domainer.

Why does it bothers you?

He might not even investing on new gTLDs, but just speaking the truths.

You comment on every new gTLD related posts and thats okay, yet you don`t own a single gTLD and demarketing it in each thread. Why?

All your portfolio consist of dot COM`s which is also okay.

That is a reasonable motto to spend most of your time on new gTLD area.

Right?

Edit:

Or you just care about others not to lose money ( in your theory ) ?

I don`t think so, you want to sell your domains in the aftermarket.

 

[JB Lions]

So what? Can`t he have ideas?

He is also a domainer.

Why does it bothers you?

He might not even investing on new gTLDs, but just speaking the truths.

You comment on every new gTLD related posts and thats okay, yet you don`t own a single gTLD and demarketing it in each thread. Why?

All your portfolio consist of dot COM`s which is also okay.

That is a reasonable motto to spend most of your time on new gTLD area.

It doesn't bother me, your post was just rather naive. I understand it's a business and new gtlds are good for business. Even tho I think he understands the business better than most and gives some of the best appraisals, he's not a domainer. He's posted about that before.

 

[JB Lions]

As far as:

"However, as some have pointed out already, they built their empire primarily on .com."

Right, because that's where the money is for domainers. Some of them have ventured into new gtlds as well, somebody just posted about Rick's tweet about how much money he's lost on new gtlds. They're investors. Their money can be spent on any extension. If they felt there was profit to be made, it would go there.

Rick
"I plan 2 drop ALL my premium .whatevers in 2017. Ones I paid TENS of thousands of $$ for. $500k loss. Tax benefit. is ONLY value."

And other big time domainers, who have mostly .coms, ventured into new gltds as well. And they probably have a lot more money than most, so they can get better new gtlds than most here.

 

[atinc]

As far as:

"However, as some have pointed out already, they built their empire primarily on .com."

Right, because that's where the money is for domainers. Some of them have ventured into new gtlds as well, somebody just posted about Rick's tweet about how much money he's lost on new gtlds. They're investors. Their money can be spent on any extension. If they felt there was profit to be made, it would go there.

The industry is not driven by the sellers but the buyers. Rick or Mann doesn`t really matter what they say or what they do, yet they are good inspirations for dot Com. not for new gTLDs, YET.

I see a lot of potential on some new gTLDs cause there are not much reasonable domains left with dot com.

There are new generations coming in to business each year, and will continue to.

new gTLDs will be used massively eventually in a particular time in future.

And this is the right time to invest.

Just register a single killer domain, exact match generic.

Hold on it for 5 to 10 years, and you will thank me later.

 

[JB Lions]

The industry is not driven by the sellers but the buyers. Rick or Mann doesn`t really matter what they say or what they do, yet they are good inspirations for dot Com. not for new gTLDs, YET.

I see a lot of potential on some new gTLDs cause there are not much reasonable domains left with dot com.

There are new generations coming in to business each year, and will continue to.

new gTLDs will be used massively eventually in a particular time in future.

And this is the right time to invest.

Just register a single killer domain, exact match generic.

Hold on it for 5 to 10 years, and you will thank me later.

That's what it's all about right there and it's usually from people who are new and/or never ventured into the aftermarket. So another 10 years, when we're in year 4 already. Yes, hold it for another 10 years, let's wait 14 years. And then every year, let's push it further another few years. Registries love you guys. Forget reality, invest on hope.

 

[atinc]

That's what it's all about right there and it's usually from people who are new and/or never ventured into the aftermarket. So another 10 years, when we're in year 4 already. Yes, hold it for another 10 years, let's wait 14 years. And then every year, let's push it further another few years. Registries love you guys. Forget reality, invest on hope.

How many dot coms registered after 4 years from 1985?

With dot com people started to register even nonsense made up domains.

4 years is too general. There are many of them became available in the past year.

Invest on hope? Of course and what do you invest on?

You hope to sell you domains as well right? If not sold than you are also holding and investing on hopes. Which is super normal.

 

[JB Lions]

How many dot coms registered after 4 years from 1985?

With dot com people started to register even nonsense made up domains.

4 years is too general. There are many of them became available in the past year.

Invest on hope? Of course and what do you invest on?

You hope to sell you domains as well right? If not sold than you are also holding on a hope which is super normal.

Again, this is silly stuff. 4 years after 1985? You mean before the browser/websites existed? Do you realize how many new gtld fans have posted stuff like that. I invest in extensions people know already, that I don't have to explain. And in keywords that I can imagine a site being built on, endusers in mind.

 

[Bram C.]

How many dot coms registered after 4 years from 1985?

.

Lol, not the flawed 1985 comparison again...

 

[Lox]

And in keywords that I can imagine a site being built on, endusers in mine

This is correct way and everybody should follow this path, .com or .whatever it doesn't matter, just sell!

 

[Premiums]

It's because they cost between 30 to 100 to reggae or renew. But a .com only costs 1 -15. . .

 

[atinc]

Guys give me the registration numbers for dot com between 1985 to 1989.

If you want to compare it with new gTLDs compare it right.

Whatever time take dot com to gain common knowledge?

You have to wait exact time to see the real value of new gTLDs.

 

[JB Lions]

Guys give me the registration numbers for dot com between 1985 to 1989.

If you want to compare it with new gTLDs compare it right.

Whatever time take dot com to gain common knowledge?

You have to wait exact time to see the real value of new gTLDs.

Are you serious? Even after I literally explained it to you? You want to compare .com reg numbers from 1985-1989? Browsers/websites did not exist then.

 

[RamSEO]

Saying "NO DEMAND" isn't justifiable verdict to all gTLD extension. As we all know, there have been quite so many nice deals were made through gTLD. With due respect to .Com historical legacy, they are sure the best and ever will be. But gTLD also seems to be running in it nice pace as slower as the awareness out there in the market respective to whole gTLD extensions.

So pointless with guys who do not invest in new gTLDs themselves to know all about that market. Just a fraction of the sales are mentioned at Namebio etc. I do report about 10-15% of my own sales. I am personally much more succesful with my new gTLDs than my .COM names.

Mann is one hell of a domainer, but he is obviously biased.

 

[RamSEO]

Very well said.

Mike Mann: “Read my lips gTLDs are D*E*A*D, absolutely no demand!”

I'm wondering how Mike wants us to "read his lips" when his statement was a text comment on a social media platform, if he wanted us to actually read his lips he should have uploaded a video.

See, Mike is not some almighty superior being who sh*ts ice cream, a highly talented domainer no doubt but still a human being who is prone to mistakes and being wrong.

Lets not forget that his is also open and often boastful of this constant TM infringing domains. So he has no problem squatting on an existing brand for the benefit of his own pocket. Why do people assume he wont deliberately make negative comments about gTLD's not because he actually believes it but to protect his own investments, protect his pocket?

 

[atinc]

Are you serious? Even after I literally explained it to you? You want to compare .com reg numbers from 1985-1989? BROWSERS/WEBSITES DID NOT EXIST THEN.

Your explanation doesn`t make sense to me.

You don`t show the same patience for new gTLDs.

As I mentioned above world population is growing each year and new businesses will arise as a result.

When did you last register a dot com literally and what was it?

And what is your favorite domain you own today, you probably bought it way long ago...

new gTLDs , you don`t have this problem.

 

[frank-germany]

Guys give me the registration numbers for dot com between 1985 to 1989.

If you want to compare it with new gTLDs compare it right.

Whatever time take dot com to gain common knowledge?

You have to wait exact time to see the real value of new gTLDs.

I guess are are really mistaken if you think that is relevant an comparable

they did not close the .com meanwhile

 

[atinc]

I guess are are really mistaken if you think that is relevant an comparable

they did not close the .com meanwhile

The point I am trying to highlight is dot com is a mature industry it is already fullfilled..

On the other hand new gTLDs are young and have much more space to register comparing to dot com.

Eventually they will mature and fulfilled too. That will be the time to see its real value.

7 billion people on earth each year internet usage grows and population grows and young kids grows to have businesses.

 

[frank-germany]

The point I am trying to highlight is dot com is a mature industry it is already fullfilled..

On the other hand new gTLDs are young and have much more space to register comparing to dot com.

Eventually they will mature and fulfilled too. That will be the time to see its real value.

7 billion people on earth each year internet usage grows and population grows and young kids grows to have businesses.

check what happend to .mobi / .tel
and idn names ( 2003)

 

[Eric Lyon]

The theory makes sense. . . But gltds are going to be dead, not because of Mann or lack of exposure. . . It's because they cost between 30 to 100 to reggae or renew. But a .com only costs 1 -15. . .

It sounds like you're saying .com is better because it's "cheap". Remember, the $1 store items generally don't last as long as the name brand items. I don't think "cheap" is the right strategy.