Michael Mann Scammed me out of $1000

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This is an absolute nightmare. Seems Ive been scammed again.

Details of Scammer

Michael Mann




Web Media Projects, Inc.,
440 E Pass Rd. Suite B
Gulfport, MS. 39507 USA

Website: www.webmediaprojects.com

Email: [email protected]

Tel: 601-213-0881
Toll-free: 866-496-2278
Fax: 601-326-2379

MSN: [email protected]
PayPal: [email protected]
His contact number: 228-216-6707

DigitalPoint Username : c0l0rad0
GetaFreelancer Username : c0l0rad0

I agreed a price of $3,000 for the development of a clone of King.com. He said that i could pay it in 3 stages at $1k each. This was back in October 2007 and he said it would take 2-3 months to complete. So i set deadline after deadline after deadline and he missed 11 in total and I started to get concerned. He maintained it was due to the complexity of the site and limited staff so i believed him. But when he missed the latest deadline, I sent an email asking where it was and he replied with:




then i searched on the web about him and came across this

http://www.thesqueakywheel.com/complaints/2007/NOV/complaint19828.cfm
http://www.thesqueakywheel.com/complaints/2008/FEB/complaint22448.cfm

so i questioned him on it and asked for a complete refund and he replied with


Can people on NP help me get my money back as this is a lot of money to a student.

Are the contact details listed above seem correct to you?

Thanks guys :tu:
 
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c0l0rad0 said:
We worked on this project a lot of long man-hours and I paid the developers who worked on it. Even though we have now used those games in another project it doesn't negate the cost to our company to have these games built (along with the template, admin panel, etc.).


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We did the work. We complied with the terms of the development agreement, and we owe no refund. Period.

Interesting thread :)

Let me get this straight - you did the work, but have been paid by two different people for it? Or, you do not budget correctly and thus your quote is not realistic to costs involved?

I like the first concept, work once, get paid twice :)
 
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This is exactly what you've done. Everyone knows you didnt do any work on my site. Lets have a list of all your victims. All you claimed were being abusive to you, all who waited longer than they needed to, all never got there money back, all have said they havent received any work.

1) You stole $325 from Linkery of Monticello, New York
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/282/RipOff0282554.htm

2) You stole $4500 from Susan of Fayetteville, Arkansas
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/308/RipOff0308121.htm

3) You stole $600 from James Bunting
http://www.thesqueakywheel.com/complaints/2008/FEB/complaint22448.cfm

4) You stole $450 from Nick Burrett
http://www.thesqueakywheel.com/complaints/2007/NOV/complaint19828.cfm

5) You stole an undisclosed amount from a Mr Kauffman
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/320/RipOff0320267.htm

6) You stole $1000 from me

Now, Im no Quincy, but wouldn't you say that was conclusive evidence that your a serial scammer?


c0l0rad0 said:
I notice this is not his first time "being scammed." Seems to be a pattern. Somehow I have the feeling he gets what he deserves in these relationships.
Oh please. The only pattern I can see is you stealing deposits off innocent people.
 
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kev said:
This is exactly what you've done. Everyone knows you didnt do any work on my site. Lets have a list of all your victims. All you claimed were being abusive to you, all who waited longer than they needed to, all never got there money back, all have said they havent received any work.

1) You stole $325 from Linkery of Monticello, New York
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/282/RipOff0282554.htm

2) You stole $4500 from Susan of Fayetteville, Arkansas
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/308/RipOff0308121.htm

3) You stole $600 from James Bunting
http://www.thesqueakywheel.com/complaints/2008/FEB/complaint22448.cfm

4) You stole $450 from Nick Burrett
http://www.thesqueakywheel.com/complaints/2007/NOV/complaint19828.cfm

5) You stole an undisclosed amount from a Mr Kauffman
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/320/RipOff0320267.htm

6) You stole $1000 from me

Now, Im no Quincy, but wouldn't you say that was conclusive evidence that your a serial scammer?



Oh please. The only pattern I can see is you stealing deposits off innocent people.


Ok, let's start with "never did any work on your site."

I can show the dummy template we did. I can show POOL (since you say this was so important), along with 2 other flash games and one poker application. I can show a back-end that is slick as greased lightning and that all games are real and play money, multiplayer games (as you requested).

How much do I need to show to indicate we worked for our money?

Linkery might have a legitimate beef.

We have NEVER done business with "Susan" of Fayettteville, AR. That is a fabrication of a disgruntled ex-employee. We have no client by that name.

We have NEVER done business with James Bunting. That is a fabrication of a disgruntled ex-employee. We have no client by that name.

Nick Burrett has issued a formal statement regarding this complaint. I have attached a copy of it here and you will see it posted to RipOffReports tonight after midnight (they do not update until after midnight each day).

"I’d like to say I believe this to be all resolved now, I think in the heat of the moment it all got out of control.

The facts as I see it are as follows:

I paid Jeff Paris aka phpl33t and zerofunk that I know of $450 through Paypal which was collected by Michael Mann of Web Media Projects. This was paid to Michael because Jeff Paris says he did not have a Paypal account. I believe that Michael passed this money on to Jeff and that’s where Michael’s involvement in this matter ceased. He acted in a totally professional manor.

Jeff Paris took the Money from Michael Mann and that’s who my complaint should have been with – the reason I went after Michael was because that’s who my Paypal receipt was made out to – but I now understand he did not have my money – Jeff did!

Jeff did eventually refund me $150 through Paypal as documented on the internet – but the money Jeff claims was sent by Western Union, well that is a complete lie! Jeff did in fact eventually complete some other work for me thus writing off his debt – but as a coder he let me down badly.

I hope this clears things up, to cut a long story short I have been repaid in full and I no longer have a complaint with Michael Mann."


This will be visible tonight, after midnight for all to see and his squeakywheel complaint is being cancelled for the same reason.

We have NEVER done business with a "Mr. Kaufman" (that I am aware of). This is a fabrication of a disgruntled ex-employee. We have no client with that name and don't know what we are supposed to have done to him.

Yes, Kevin, you might have a valid beef. I am of the opinion that once you started your BS I was in my rights to cancel your project. Maybe I am wrong, but NO BUSINESS that I know of is forced to deal with someone they don't want to. Ever heard the saying "we reserve the ight to refuse service to anyone"?

What you have done is perpetuate Jeff's character attack. He is a master of using multiple aliases to bolster his own complaints against people (google jeff paris scams or zerofunk scams). He has been cyber-stalking people he has disagreements with since 2004, that I know of and it's easy for him to rip off Nick Burrett, let Nick file a complaint, then, using multiple logins file a complaint, then another that supports the first and so on until it LOOKS convincing to anyone reading it.

I contacted Nick. He filed his correction to the original story when he saw what was going on and he had learned way back who the real culprit was.

Now, your complaint just looks like all the rest. makes pretty convincing reading when added all together.

Personally, Kevin, I don't care what you say. I came into this thread because your statements were going unchallenged and the cold fact is you never paid us for what you owed us. Period.

That's it in a nutshell, and anyone going to ripoffreports after midnight and looking at Nick's original complaint (that started all of this) will see what he has to say abut it.

Further, we have been doing this for over 6 years and strangely enough, these reports surfaced only 6 months or so ago -right after we fired jeff and filed a police report for theft of our laptop. All of the sudden we were ripping people off left and right.

Puleeezzzeeeee! We didn't just "all of the sudden" go bad. C'mon. We are a public corporation (Class C) duly registered with the SOS in Mississippi. Why would we kill ourselves over a few hundred dollars?

Our two biggest mistakes were in ever hiring Jeff Paris ( we should have googled him first) and in letting you get as far as you did with your BS.
 
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c0l0rad0 said:
That is a fabrication of a disgruntled ex-employee. We have no client by that name.

c0l0rad0 said:
We have NEVER done business with a "Mr. Kaufman" (that I am aware of). This is a fabrication of a disgruntled ex-employee. We have no client with that name and don't know what we are supposed to have done to him.

It's so easy to say that. So next time someone complains about you and see's my complaints, I can see you saying "That is a fabrication of a disgruntled ex-employee."


c0l0rad0 said:
Yes, Kevin, you might have a valid beef. I am of the opinion that once you started your BS I was in my rights to cancel your project. Maybe I am wrong, but NO BUSINESS that I know of is forced to deal with someone they don't want to.

What BS? Because I enquired about where my 4 month overdue project was?

Correct. No business is forced to deal with someone they dont want to. If they do this, they refund the money. Simple as. Imagine a world where you took out a mortgage and paid into it for 20 years, and your mortgage provider turned round and said "Hey, i dont like this guy...im gonna keep his house"
It doesnt work like that!


c0l0rad0 said:
Ever heard the saying "we reserve the ight to refuse service to anyone"?

No :| Your off in your own deluded wee world old yin.

c0l0rad0 said:
Personally, Kevin, I don't care what you say. I came into this thread because your statements were going unchallenged and the cold fact is you never paid us for what you owed us. Period.

I paid you $1000. What have I got to show for it?

c0l0rad0 said:
All of the sudden we were ripping people off left and right.

Yes, i agree with you on that one.

c0l0rad0 said:
Puleeezzzeeeee! We didn't just "all of the sudden" go bad.

Well its clear to everyone you have. 6 Complaints....6 stolen deposits... 6 counts of fraud

The cold hard fact of the matter is...

Your a criminal.
 
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Michael Mann got 10 years for fraud aye...

What a suprise :bah:
 
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Mike, since you want to keep slandering me with lies, the truce is off.

Quit bringing me up as a scapegoat, I have nothing to do with any of this.

Do not believe ANTHING Mike says.

I am innocent of everything he claims. He is fraking insane.

Mike Mann got 10 years for Bank Fraud. He got caught trying to dot hat bank thing from the movie "office space" where software takes pannies at a time. What a dumb f**k. He also stole my $3500 Star Trek collection that I reported stolen today. He is also wanted by homeland security for haboring illegal immigrants.

How do I know? I USED to be his best friend.

Btw, I was not fired. I was cheated out of 3 paychecks.

Mike you stupid ****, I am not the one posting these. This dude just hit me up notifying me of what you said. The truce is off and I am letting the authorities know EVERYTHING I know.

MIKE FIGURE IT OUT! IT IS YOUR ****ING MOUTH THAT GETS YOU INTO TROUBLE!

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Originally Posted by REMOVED USERNAME

Hi there,

I wrote a rip off report about Michael Mann stealing $1000 from me

can you help me get it back

http://www.namepros.com/455069-micha...-1000-a-2.html

thanks mate
kev





Originally Posted by phpl33t
Best bet is a chargeback with your credit card company. Paypal automatically refunds those.




Originally Posted by REMOVED USERNAME

can you post on this thread

http://www.namepros.com/455069-micha...-1000-a-2.html

you've came up on it so it should be only right you respond and show this man for who he truely is.

thanks
 
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Well looks like the cat's outta the bag now eh Mr. Mann?
I think it's time you get a real job there pal and quit scamming people. Your practice is out in the open now.
 
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:gl: :guilty: :blink:
 
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People like you turn my stomach, badly. It is sickening to know that people like you, michal mann, exist in this world. There are people who struggle everyday to make ends meet, some people struggling for even basic necessities and then theres people like you, the scum. I have very good experience in web development/design and have been studying software engineering, and yet lately I have struggled finding work. In the past I have worked at dockyards with 6am starts, in a superstore with 4am starts and then people like you who spend their time scamming others.

Sick, very sick. Get a real job.
 
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Well said Dave, Last year I got scammed out of $1k by a Chinese scammer.

That was the worst year I've have ever experienced in my life.

I am so glad I had family to get me through rent those months.

I don't know what goes through a person's mind when they are scamming a fellow person, and I never want too.
DomainManDave said:
People like you turn my stomach, badly. It is sickening to know that people like you, michal mann, exist in this world. There are people who struggle everyday to make ends meet, some people struggling for even basic necessities and then theres people like you, the scum. I have very good experience in web development/design and have been studying software engineering, and yet lately I have struggled finding work. In the past I have worked at dockyards with 6am starts, in a superstore with 4am starts and then people like you who spend their time scamming others.

Sick, very sick. Get a real job.
 
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Sure, Jeff, chime in

Ok, now Jeff is on here to bolster the same crap that started this some 8 months ago.

Whatever. I don't need to prove anything. I tried to show what work I did and why I did what I did, but I will not let Jeff come on here and ruin this board for other pople.

Peace out, folks.
 
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Kev
1/ Sorry you were ripped off.
2/ Google is your friend ,you should always check before for Possible reports about Clients/Contractors Before ,not after making payments
3/ Put your $1000 down to experience and move on. Not worth engaging in Legal battles that will cost you more money.
4/ Contact me by PM in future if needing help finding programmers/contractors , I can help find suitable people. I have had 30 years in the IT and related fields .

c0l0rad0
c0l0rad0 said:
In Viet Nam we dealt with people like you all the time. Big, bad asses.
Hundreds of fine young Men and Women lost their lives in Viet Nam , Don't Dishonour their memory by associating SCUM like you with them.
What SCUM like you did in Viet Nam, Laos, and Cambodia was Bomb, Poison ,Rape, Torture and Massacre Innocent civilians. Did that make you FEEL good dealing with Big Bad asses by killing their Babies. You need to stop living in the 1970's. Exactly how does quoting your supposed war record justify ripping people off.

1/ Professional ETHICS is not just a Phrase ,it is a way of dealing with clients in Business. It is apparent from your actions,comments and reaction you have NO Concept of ethical behaviour.

2/ Namepros is a community of like-minded and honest people , some are hobbyists,some part-timers and some like myself FULL-time Business owners. None of us want to associate with anyone that would even considering writing such gutter trash talk as you have in your postings. There is probably mis-understanding on both sides, but it is blatantly obvious from your reaction that the MAIN problem in this issue is YOU.
3/ I am recommending to -RJ- an immediate lifetime Ban for you , we do not want any one like you as a member of Namepros.com
 
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Barefoottech said:
Kev
1/ Sorry you were ripped off.
2/ Google is your friend ,you should always check before for Possible reports about Clients/Contractors Before ,not after making payments
3/ Put your $1000 down to experience and move on. Not worth engaging in Legal battles that will cost you more money.
4/ Contact me by PM in future if needing help finding programmers/contractors , I can help find suitable people. I have had 30 years in the IT and related fields .

c0l0rad0

Hundreds of fine young Men and Women lost their lives in Viet Nam , Don't Dishonour their memory by associating SCUM like you with them.
What SCUM like you did in Viet Nam, Laos, and Cambodia was Bomb, Poison ,Rape, Torture and Massacre Innocent civilians. Did that make you FEEL good dealing with Big Bad asses by killing their Babies. You need to stop living in the 1970's. Exactly how does quoting your supposed war record justify ripping people off.

1/ Professional ETHICS is not just a Phrase ,it is a way of dealing with clients in Business. It is apparent from your actions,comments and reaction you have NO Concept of ethical behaviour.

2/ Namepros is a community of like-minded and honest people , some are hobbyists,some part-timers and some like myself FULL-time Business owners. None of us want to associate with anyone that would even considering writing such gutter trash talk as you have in your postings. There is probably mis-understanding on both sides, but it is blatantly obvious from your reaction that the MAIN problem in this issue is YOU.
3/ I am recommending to -RJ- an immediate lifetime Ban for you , we do not want any one like you as a member of Namepros.com
Well Said.
 
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c0l0rad0
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Michael Mann.... or whoever you are...

You really do have some nerve. You have shown your true colors. You are a scammer. When you get caught, you get mad. We don't need your sorry lowlife scum here. Hopefully by keeping this post in public, Google will eat it up and people will found out WHO you really are.

Peace out, folks.

:wave:
 
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c0l0rad0 said:
Nick Burrett has issued a formal statement regarding this complaint. I have attached a copy of it here and you will see it posted to RipOffReports tonight after midnight (they do not update until after midnight each day).
I contacted Nick. He filed his correction to the original story when he saw what was going on and he had learned way back who the real culprit was.
That's it in a nutshell, and anyone going to ripoffreports after midnight and looking at Nick's original complaint (that started all of this) will see what he has to say abut it.
I am not that Nick :) Just clearing it up :D
 
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c0l0rad0 said:
Ok, now Jeff is on here to bolster the same crap that started this some 8 months ago.

Whatever. I don't need to prove anything. I tried to show what work I did and why I did what I did, but I will not let Jeff come on here and ruin this board for other pople.

Peace out, folks.

You really are disgraceful.

I can take some form of comfort knowing that you served 10 years in jail. But, Im contacting your local papers to unveil you as the dirty, low life scammer that you truely are. And if the Police want to take it further, so be it. Ill have a word with Jeff to try and see if we can get all those who were scammed to bring charges against you. With your past criminal record, I think the authorities will make the correct decision.

Ive sent emails to GetaFreelancer.com, Getacoder, RentaCoder and DP where you frequent to get you banned.
 
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I can't access webmediaprojects site. When was it removed?
 
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I see it just fine... sadly.
 
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