Long Domain Names

[burke]

For best SEO results, how should I register a long domain name?
Which is better: longdomainnamehere.com or long-domain-name-here.com?

 

[vslevin]

If you're only talking about SEO, than go with the hyphens, because it will give more weight to each hyphenated keyword.

 

[sandyfeet]

So, if I were to use the name... vacation home rental maui hawaii, it would be better as vacation-home-rental-maui-hawaii.com or vacationhomerentalmauihawaii.com??

Not saying I'm getting that name. Probably way too long...right?

vacation home rental maui hawaii, searched for monthly....

Google: 664
Yahoo: 332
MSN: 166
Top bid overture: $0.57

 

[gazzip]

Both your examples look way way tooooo long IMO - Hyphens are OK (to some) if you just use one, ie Dubai-Hotels, I think there are very few cases where you can get away with two - ie Phone-A-Loan but I personally would never think of reging a name with more that 2 hyphens in it.

A multiple keyword domain is not the only way to get ranked high in search engines - Use your important keywords in each page title, page content and get good quality incoming links to your site.

JMO



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[sandyfeet]

Ok, on a smaller domain (available):
Sonicgamedownload.com looks better than sonic-game-download.com , right?

The one good thing about the non hyphen domain, is it can be typed directly in the browser/address bar and one can go directly to the site. Not many people are gonna add hyphens when doing that, right?

 

[martinvonessenbeck]

Domain Names for Tomorrow Size Does Matter

Remember the old saying - size matters. Well for the future of business - not domains but business because that dictates THIS business. This sums it up completely:

"Domains must be stable and generic, and must not follow trends. I avoid all "e" domains as if it is online everyone with half a brain realizes that it is 'electronic.' On the flip side there are words that allude to the workings of the internet yet also are generic in that they relate to other forms and methods necessary to contemporary business, like the world "digital" Hence for example "digital world trade" (checked its been held for years by same reclusive registrant) for that lucky owner that single dot. com holds serious and major value for any multinational in various conglomerate industries. If one thinks of the multi-level multi-dimensional aspects and significance of each term alone, then combines the power of that string? it is rare and exponential. Very few domains can do that therefore I feel the dollar value potential of that domain is enormous.

For large heavily funded multinational corporation those short words would prove to be highly significant as part of such a string, the string would require an equally generic string such as "world trade" as world trade is nearly exclusively digital. This is a highly unique case in the sense that world trade is the key phrase of a global economy, note the terminology, not the word "global" but the words "world trade" which in itself as a phrase has been established and applies to a broad range of generic possibilities. Digital also well established is a base means of computer programming, electronic transfer in for internet, and business methodologies.

Single terms can mean very little and are often only useful as a first line of "searching" they are not directly generic or multi-dimensional as using terms that are not only generic but directly relate to the future of businesses complex method or body of methods, rules, and postulates and practices employed by a discipline. Single term domains therefore have their place but in the long range picture they have lost their luster too many as they are simply hyper generic often times meaning that they are what they are and nothing more. If one can take generics and make them something more than they are! Now there is the future.

All domains, like real estate, are not created equal. Far too many investment amateurs have jumped on the domain bandwagon trying to register anything just in an attempt to make that simpleton based "fast buck" that never happens anyway no matter what the hype (many are finding that out as real estate values sink nationwide.) Multi-meaning generic dot .com domains of combined relevant business terms (and I mean only .com,) will increasingly hold a serious financial premium with substantial current day dollar value. The domains that can do that hold significant potential for secure transactions, search and archives, and revenue stream potential. Therefore as I am sure those lucky ones who own such domains know they holds enormous investment value potential."

And I heard through the grapevine that it's finally going up for sale after nearly ten years at $7.5M! They are aiming it toward multinational corporations. That would be right up there with the big boys at that range. Apparently over the years they've turned down $1M and $3.5M already.

 

[sandyfeet]

So, long domains are no good?? I found a whole bunch of 3 - 4 word domains that are heavily searched for that are not taken...hmmmmm. What to do...

 

[martinvonessenbeck]

sandyfeet. NO just the opposite my LORD i think long is terrific if BIG BUSINESS SPECIFIC and HIGHLY GENERIC. it isn't about the length of words anymore that is very early domain game (does one HAVE to have say for example lc.com which means what at first glance? nothing but lc.com) if they really were a LawCenter? think about it with todays traffic if as many do one searched "law center" which would get the direct hits? think also about business architecture script now and into the 21st century as well as digital ways to generate revenue - the full word becomes searchable who is going to search for 'lc' but Law Center would get a ton of hits for numerious law searches by all angles. they must be easy to remember again generic. like anything else its the length of quality - its generic aspects. just read what he wrote above that i posted because that really made a lot of people halt and think with common sense about the exact issues you raise. perfect example was 'forsalebyowner' look what that brought, and the digitalworldtrade.com finally on the market but for $7.5 million! if you think about it a multinational doing billions a year? that would be nothing. its highly generic and very future oriented toward very big business. i think personally that small domains well like anything else small they just don't measure up to todays technological and digital standards.

 

[mis_chiff]

So, would something like
globalnamesearch.com be better that way
or global-name-search.com with hyphens?
to me it's generic, am I wrong in my thinking... oops
long yes, but I can't get used to hyphens....

 

[peter phillips]

I think a good keyword, long, non hyphenated domain would be better than a good keyword long domain with more than one hyphen in it. As mentioned above people tend to forget to type the hyphens while typing the name in the address bar, so having more than one hyphen in a name will further hamper the type in traffic and promotion of the business.

 

[floatingworld]

lots-of-hyphens-just-looks-so-clunky.com

 

[aldwin]

If you can, get both.

Humans will like more the non hyphenated version, while SE will be happily crawling the hyphenated version.

To avoid being penalized in the SERP, just make a redirect 301 from the non-hyphenated to the hyphenated, so you'll have both humans and se happy.

 

[martinvonessenbeck]

Forget Hyphens

Forget the hyphens. They only slow down natural typing. To add a hypen to any name lowers value even on a generic. It's as bad as those names I hate those 'e' names like e- or e... whatever. How stupid are people? If you are on the web? It's electronic...HELLO....LOL.

 

[Lasher]

Don't need a grapevine, just check the site. If this is a serious attempt to sell a three word domain at 7.5M, I'd have put a little more work into the page myself..

And I heard through the grapevine that it's finally going up for sale after nearly ten years at $7.5M! They are aiming it toward multinational corporations. That would be right up there with the big boys at that range. Apparently over the years they've turned down $1M and $3.5M already.

 

[111111z]

how about this for a long domain name


http://thelongestdomainnamesthelongestdomainnamesthelongestdomainnames.com/

is that long enough

 

[gazzip]

lots-of-hyphens-just-looks-so-clunky.com

For sure :hehe:

I have'nt seen many looooong domain name sales so I personally would NOT go for long ones, however, here is a few I have come accross:

WealthManagementServices.net - $1,288 afternic
TheOneStopPhoneShop.co.uk - £975 = $1,708 Sedo
HealthSavingsAccount.com - $16,750 SnapNames
RetirementInvestmentAdvisors.com - $2,500 at Afternic


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[burke]

Thanks for the input. I'll try to minimize or eliminate the hypens.

 

[sld7]

Is their a site that shows how many times keywords are searched in Google?

I knew Overture had it but.....

Does MSN, Ask etc. have something as well?

Thanks

 

[DJ-Sound]

From a commerical stant point, long domains look very unprofessional, they are not brandable and commonly misspelled so you loose traffic. Be creative and come up with a short but good domain.

my 2 cents.

 

[BigCharlie]

The name digitalworldtrade.com is barely worth reg. fee. If you put it up for auction it might not get a bid of $20. Shorter names without hyphens are better than longer names with hyphens. The non-hypenated versions of the recent strong sales of names with hyphens are worth a ton.