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NO MORE 4 LETTER DOMAIN AVAILABLE TO REGISTER!
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Since early 2005, I have been investing/trading with 4 letter domain names. I started this thread due to the large variation in opinions on how many four letter domains there are available. When I started, I heard a range on viewpoints ranging from 200,000 down to nothing. What I learned that most people did not know how many were available.

Sources of Error for the estimates in number of available 4 letter domains include:

Traffic Testers: These are people who buy thousands of domains at a time to see if the domains are being visited and only keep the small percentage of domains that have regular visitors and cancel their orders for the domains that don't have a regular flow of visitors.

Inefficient ways of making estimates: There are over 450 thousand possible 4-Letter domains. There are short cuts that people can take in estimating the number that been registered that don't include all domains. One short cut that is often taken is for somebody to search through a list of previously available 4 letter names that they purchased (or got for free) and assume that all the names that are not on that list are registered.

People quoting old information:The variation in the number available changes all the time. Estimates that are months old are very different than up to date estimates.

People manipulating information for a sale:It definately is true that incorrect information on the available number of 4-letter domains can intensionally be manipulated to sell 4-letter domains at a higher price. Typically the lack of supply tends to motivate people to pay higher prices.

As a 4-letter domain trader, I believe that the information of how many 4-letter domains there are is extremely valuable for two main reasons. Firstly, my pricing of my names is subject to the amount of work it requires for customer to find for similar name. Secondly, if I want to increase my stock of 4-letter names than the information of how many there are at reg fee prices is essential.

I decided to update this thread when the number of available 4-letter domains dropped to the following levels:
22% Remaining - 25th January 2006
19% Remaining - 31st March 2006
16% Remaining - 29th June 2006
13% Remaining - 1st August 2006
10% Remaining - 15th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early April)
9% Remaining - 26th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early May)
8% Remaining - 2nd March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing in June)
7% Remaining - 21st March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early July)
6% Remaining - 3rd July 2007(crossed without traffic testing some time in July)
5% Remaining - 1st August 2007(crossed without traffic testing August 11)
4% Remaining - 14th August 2007(crossed late August)
3% Remaining - 15th September 2007(crossed In September)
2% Remaining - 14th October 2007
1% Remaining - 31st October 2007
0% Remaining - 2nd November - COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!

Although, the number of available domains does sometime rise straight after it drops due to traffic testing and people dropping their domains, I don't consider it worth mentioning unless the rise is as significant as a 3% rise in the number of available domains.

Types of Four Letter Domains that have run out include:
- ALL OF THEM!

Since I started this thread important event about four letter domains that are worth mentioning happenned:

1: Late March/Early April 2006 there was a significant shift in the market for brandable (fake words) 4-letter domains and they started selling at significantly higher prices and the market for the names has been a lot more active ever since.

2: In July 2006, a namepros member 3par launched DYYO.com as a site committed to educating people about 4 letter domains. This is an excellent resource for those who are interested in 4 letter domain names.

3: In early February 2007. All the 4 letter domains starting with the letter A ran out.

4: wasistdas won QQNQ.COM, PCZV.COM & IQKE.COM for the competition for predicting when the 4 Letter domains would run out
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Less than 23% of the 4 letter domain names are unregistered. I thought I'd try to keep this thread updated every time I discover another 1% reduction. I am now routinely checking the percentage of unregisted 4 letter domains.
 
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I still prefer the triple premium domains than domains without Q,X and Z. Since I posted the list of 1185 triple premium domains on Namepros 3 weeks ago, it has dropped down to 601 and so I am not alone. I only took 2 of them.

I think that people were not focusing on them as they were a little bit harder to find.

I think that more than one non-premium letter in a domain affects the probability of the domain being used for a practical purpose more significantly than it having one of the letter Q.
 
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Well the question of whether we'd be all out of LLLL.com before we reach 1,000 posts has now been answered. This is post 1,002 and we haven't yet cracked the 10,000 mark in remaining LLLL.com's. We are all just too chatty and excited here :)
 
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VURG said:
I still prefer the triple premium domains than domains without Q,X and Z.
I registered one recently. I believe all of the three premium letters with a Z are now gone.

Matt.
 
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VURG said:
I still prefer the triple premium domains than domains without Q,X and Z. Since I posted the list of 1185 triple premium domains on Namepros 3 weeks ago, it has dropped down to 601 and so I am not alone. I only took 2 of them.

I think that people were not focusing on them as they were a little bit harder to find.

I think that more than one non-premium letter in a domain affects the probability of the domain being used for a practical purpose more significantly than it having one of the letter Q.



I agree totally, indeed I have been looking at them even before you created that list and recently I have been registering a lot of the ones with the Z or the Q + 3 premium letters.
 
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There are still some 3 premium letter domains with Z. Or some have double Z ...

RPZC.COM
ZBPZ.COM
RPZM.COM
RZFN.COM
PZHN.COM
RFZP.COM
RNZH.COM
RZIH.COM
ZMPZ.COM
ZPGZ.COM

Post here if you register any of these.
 
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alexsimon said:
There are still some 3 premium letter domains with Z. Or some have double Z ...

RPZC.COM
ZBPZ.COM
RPZM.COM
RZFN.COM
PZHN.COM
RFZP.COM
RNZH.COM
RZIH.COM
ZMPZ.COM
ZPGZ.COM

Post here if you register any of these.


Thank you , regged these 2:

RPZC.COM
RPZM.COM

Rep for you :)
 
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Are double letters good? Do they have more value than some others?

Examples:

DDUV.COM

CJJV.COM

EHJJ.COM
 
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Thanks.
 
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New minimun:

A total of 10575 domain names are found.
 
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Tomorrow I'm auctioning off some of my best - Ajej.com - Anaz.com - Hiah.com - Mafy.com - Orew.com - Oxto.com - Roej.com - Uguy.com - Uszy.com - Vely.com

I wonder if anyone is going to really bid on these? It should be interesting, and I still have almost 30 left. I found another one today hiding over at godaddy; I wonder how many I lost from registering names at obscure places and then changing e-mails?
 
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Italian,

Not sure if I agree with you on double letter domains being more valuable than non-double letter domains. Are you suggesting that consecutive double letters are more valuable than non consecutive? (e.g. RRXQ.com better than RXQR.com) Personally, I put them both in the same category and value them as reg fee as there are still quite a few non consecutive double letter domains left.

I have made a comment in your valuation thread on names that I consider to be worth reg fee. I think that double letter domains will be worth more in the long run but I consider it too early to value them above reg fee.

However, Rickkumar I would consider DDUV.com to be worth more than reg fee due to it being pronounceable. $30+
 
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KingDon said:
Tomorrow I'm auctioning off some of my best - Ajej.com - Anaz.com - Hiah.com - Mafy.com - Orew.com - Oxto.com - Roej.com - Uguy.com - Uszy.com - Vely.com

I wonder if anyone is going to really bid on these? It should be interesting, and I still have almost 30 left. I found another one today hiding over at godaddy; I wonder how many I lost from registering names at obscure places and then changing e-mails?

I AM going to bid if it does not get too much expensive for me :)

Just make sure to let me know where you auction them :)

VURG said:
Italian,

Not sure if I agree with you on double letter domains being more valuable than non-double letter domains. Are you suggesting that consecutive double letters are more valuable than non consecutive? (e.g. RRXQ.com better than RXQR.com) Personally, I put them both in the same category and value them as reg fee as there are still quite a few non consecutive double letter domains left.

:hi: It`s my opinion , but I expressed it AFTER looking at several sales.

I can agree that both double letters would be in the same category but certainly above reg fee.
 
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When I put Anaz~com up alone the last time, the bids went up to $1200. A little bit more and it would have been gone. Lets see what a group of premium LLLL's will fetch, I hope they sell.

But part of me is wondering what things will be like next month, I've seen things double in value when availability dries up, and these are choice names.
 
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kingdon really has some good LLLL.COM
 
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A total of 10469 domain names are found
 
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10k++ available domains left is good news!!
 
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Yep. Although looking at Dyyo's front page - the number of registered domains only went down by 2,500 last month?
 
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