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NO MORE 4 LETTER DOMAIN AVAILABLE TO REGISTER!
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Since early 2005, I have been investing/trading with 4 letter domain names. I started this thread due to the large variation in opinions on how many four letter domains there are available. When I started, I heard a range on viewpoints ranging from 200,000 down to nothing. What I learned that most people did not know how many were available.

Sources of Error for the estimates in number of available 4 letter domains include:

Traffic Testers: These are people who buy thousands of domains at a time to see if the domains are being visited and only keep the small percentage of domains that have regular visitors and cancel their orders for the domains that don't have a regular flow of visitors.

Inefficient ways of making estimates: There are over 450 thousand possible 4-Letter domains. There are short cuts that people can take in estimating the number that been registered that don't include all domains. One short cut that is often taken is for somebody to search through a list of previously available 4 letter names that they purchased (or got for free) and assume that all the names that are not on that list are registered.

People quoting old information:The variation in the number available changes all the time. Estimates that are months old are very different than up to date estimates.

People manipulating information for a sale:It definately is true that incorrect information on the available number of 4-letter domains can intensionally be manipulated to sell 4-letter domains at a higher price. Typically the lack of supply tends to motivate people to pay higher prices.

As a 4-letter domain trader, I believe that the information of how many 4-letter domains there are is extremely valuable for two main reasons. Firstly, my pricing of my names is subject to the amount of work it requires for customer to find for similar name. Secondly, if I want to increase my stock of 4-letter names than the information of how many there are at reg fee prices is essential.

I decided to update this thread when the number of available 4-letter domains dropped to the following levels:
22% Remaining - 25th January 2006
19% Remaining - 31st March 2006
16% Remaining - 29th June 2006
13% Remaining - 1st August 2006
10% Remaining - 15th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early April)
9% Remaining - 26th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early May)
8% Remaining - 2nd March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing in June)
7% Remaining - 21st March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early July)
6% Remaining - 3rd July 2007(crossed without traffic testing some time in July)
5% Remaining - 1st August 2007(crossed without traffic testing August 11)
4% Remaining - 14th August 2007(crossed late August)
3% Remaining - 15th September 2007(crossed In September)
2% Remaining - 14th October 2007
1% Remaining - 31st October 2007
0% Remaining - 2nd November - COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!

Although, the number of available domains does sometime rise straight after it drops due to traffic testing and people dropping their domains, I don't consider it worth mentioning unless the rise is as significant as a 3% rise in the number of available domains.

Types of Four Letter Domains that have run out include:
- ALL OF THEM!

Since I started this thread important event about four letter domains that are worth mentioning happenned:

1: Late March/Early April 2006 there was a significant shift in the market for brandable (fake words) 4-letter domains and they started selling at significantly higher prices and the market for the names has been a lot more active ever since.

2: In July 2006, a namepros member 3par launched DYYO.com as a site committed to educating people about 4 letter domains. This is an excellent resource for those who are interested in 4 letter domain names.

3: In early February 2007. All the 4 letter domains starting with the letter A ran out.

4: wasistdas won QQNQ.COM, PCZV.COM & IQKE.COM for the competition for predicting when the 4 Letter domains would run out
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Less than 23% of the 4 letter domain names are unregistered. I thought I'd try to keep this thread updated every time I discover another 1% reduction. I am now routinely checking the percentage of unregisted 4 letter domains.
 
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topdaytrader said:
There's couple thousand of LLLL.com dropped everyday. They're cheap for a reason, supply & demand pricing is never wrong. Unless that LLLL.com means something or else don't even bother to waste your time. There's always bigger sucker and it might be you!!!

a couple of thousands WHAT?
 
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Divide that figure by 100 and you are closer to being correct :P

2,000 drops per day = 700,000 drops per year > the number of LLLL.com's available to register

However most LLLL.coms are taken, hence this isn't possible :P
 
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Actually I was trying to say expired/deleting not dropped/available.
 
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topdaytrader said:
Actually I was trying to say expired/Deleting not dropped/available.
So you are saying a couple thousand expire every day? Then what? Why don't they become available?
 
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He has no idea what he is talking about,maybe read somewhere else and repeating here, give us facts and correct figures to proove what your saying is correct
 
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Doesn't matter if its available or not. The supply is always there and there will always be more LLLL.com than LLL.com. I don't think those people who hold thousand of LLLL.com are going to keep them forever. Just think of how much they would cost upon renew. At some point they'll need to sell them back to the open market.
 
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Now you are comparing LLLL to LLL and thats not the point you made in earlier post,I am going to develop about 50 LLLL dot com's within one year and later sell them with developed sites and backlinks,hopefully google pr too , what do you say ?

Its my minimum target of 50 , maybe more
 
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topdaytrader said:
There's couple thousand of LLLL.com dropped everyday. They're cheap for a reason, supply & demand pricing is never wrong. Unless that LLLL.com means something or else don't even bother to waste your time. There's always bigger sucker and it might be you!!!

Exactly the same reasons were given for not registering LLL names when they were available.
 
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floatingworld said:
Exactly the same reasons were given for not registering LLL names when they were available.
Yeah who would want stupid LLL.coms with random letters. Not me :)
 
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Yep, I'd turn down a $4,000 domain any day!
 
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Ummmm, I just bought Hiah.com from a second chance offer on e-bay. I guess you and I were battling it out for the name, not sure why you didn't grab it from the seller, hope I didn't get scammed; but way worth the chance for something like this. I can't believe a name like this went so cheap.

That puts me at 33 nice ones.
 
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KingDon said:
Ummmm, I just bought Hiah.com from a second chance offer on e-bay. I guess you and I were battling it out for the name, not sure why you didn't grab it from the seller, hope I didn't get scammed; but way worth the chance for something like this. I can't believe a name like this went so cheap.

That puts me at 33 nice ones.

I purchased it and have tried making payment but stupid ebay keeps displaying an error when trying to make payment. I did not get any emails from the seller as my primary email was down. I have now contacted him asking for paypal details so I can pay directly through ebay. Have you actually purchased the name through second chance offer? As the seller really hasn't given me much of a chance to pay.
 
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Yea, I already paid the guy when I clicked the buy it now button. Sorry to hear about your e-bay and paypal problems, many foreigners seem to have these problems.
 
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ZDYF.COM is available...someone take it!
 
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It looks like we have reached another new low, with 11,387 domains remaining per DYYO. Just 1388 left until we breach 10K!

Meanwhile, AussieDomainer's buyout of all non XQZ domains seems to be holding. DYYO shows just 3 of them today, and 2 have already been purchased. That leaves just YHKU.Com for anyone who wants this last one.

Q will obviously be the last letter to go, as 7,763 of the 11,387 contain at least one Q. That is a daunting number of Q's to register, but doesn't seem so bad when you consider that there are a total of 66,351 LLLL's with Q. So more than 88% of the Q's have already been registered. Q stands for quality, question, quick, etc.
 
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Cronus said:
It looks like we have reached another new low, with 11,387 domains remaining per DYYO. Just 1388 left until we breach 10K!

Meanwhile, AussieDomainer's buyout of all non XQZ domains seems to be holding. DYYO shows just 3 of them today, and 2 have already been purchased. That leaves just YHKU.Com for anyone who wants this last one.

Q will obviously be the last letter to go, as 7,763 of the 11,387 contain at least one Q. That is a daunting number of Q's to register, but doesn't seem so bad when you consider that there are a total of 66,351 LLLL's with Q. So more than 88% of the Q's have already been registered. Q stands for quality, question, quick, etc.

It is also amazing that only 97 names with 'A' left, that means 99.85% names with 'A' in them are all registered.

Talking about Q, the other day I was monitoring the registration and saw UQMP.com taken, turns out it is an end user. I should grab the name and sell to them. :)

And I just sold one a few days ago, LQIS.com, I guess it is the people at LQIS.us bought it.
 
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3par said:
Talking about Q, the other day I was monitoring the registration and saw UQMP.com taken, turns out it is an end user.
Yeah, many end users like their Q names. Here are 10 popular English-language end-user LLLL.Com sites containing Q's:

xuqa.com -- A social networking game
qype.com -- quality or hype?
quia.com -- A quiz/educational publisher
veqq.com -- WARNING, adult site
benq.com -- well known electronics manufacturer
muhq.com -- Mu HeadQuarters (gaming site)
qoop.com -- Poster creation tools
fmqb.com -- FM radio station
kroq.com -- Another radio station
iqpc.com -- International Quality & Productivity Center
 
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I hate the q.
I've been buying dozens of good LLLL.com's lately, but none with "q"


So.. anyone wants to predict the day when the last LLLL.com will be registered and what last LLLL.com will be? :D

~MG
 
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Great news! The numbers seem to be continually heading down now and it is an exciting moment everyday to check the DYYO stats :)

Maybe I should buy all the A domains out too :lol:
 
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topdaytrader said:
Actually I was trying to say expired/deleting not dropped/available.


There you go....read this that I wrote some days ago:

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yes there are not many interesting combinations left.....well interesting in our languages but some non ASCII language speakers find useful the letters we don`t like so it`s happening that some of them get registered too.

Today DYYO reports : A total of 14745 domain names are found.

I`d like to add a comment to this number that everyday changes:

The total combinations are 456,976

There are 365 days in a normal year.


So, let`s imagine that the 456,976 would be registered in equal parts every day of the year. That would mean that everyday of the year there will be about 1251 LLLL.com to be renewed. Yes, more than 1 thousand LLLL.com everyday otherwise would expire.
That`s the biggest issue compared to the LLL.com, there 26x combinations.

Obviously, the scenario above did not happen, so some days there will be even 10,000 LLLL.com to be renewed and somedays could be almost none.

What would be just 1 % of the total names dropping? About 4569 LLLL.com

These are numbers that everyone here should consider.

I`m not going to post much more on this thread as I don`t want to be judged like I`m pushing people to buy crappy LLLL.com no way. I`m not regging them either.....or maybe just very few of the last ones. I`m rather buying them around.....surely I`m not selling the ones I have yet. Except very very few to finace further purchases.

I`m not sure about the prices that crappy LLLL.com will go for within 3 or 6 or 12 months. But one thing I`m sure is that they will be all registered very soon.

It does not take a genius to see the trend after following them for more than 18 months. The chart which is on DYYO is very clear.

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Yes , there are x26 times LLL.com but there are also an increasing number of people investing in LLLL.com and most of all the prices are cheaper so people may choose to buy 1 LLL.com for $5,000 or register 700 LLLL.com having more chances to get end user offers and an higher ROI since everybody can see and predict a price increase once all LLLL.com are gone.
 
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