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NO MORE 4 LETTER DOMAIN AVAILABLE TO REGISTER!
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Since early 2005, I have been investing/trading with 4 letter domain names. I started this thread due to the large variation in opinions on how many four letter domains there are available. When I started, I heard a range on viewpoints ranging from 200,000 down to nothing. What I learned that most people did not know how many were available.

Sources of Error for the estimates in number of available 4 letter domains include:

Traffic Testers: These are people who buy thousands of domains at a time to see if the domains are being visited and only keep the small percentage of domains that have regular visitors and cancel their orders for the domains that don't have a regular flow of visitors.

Inefficient ways of making estimates: There are over 450 thousand possible 4-Letter domains. There are short cuts that people can take in estimating the number that been registered that don't include all domains. One short cut that is often taken is for somebody to search through a list of previously available 4 letter names that they purchased (or got for free) and assume that all the names that are not on that list are registered.

People quoting old information:The variation in the number available changes all the time. Estimates that are months old are very different than up to date estimates.

People manipulating information for a sale:It definately is true that incorrect information on the available number of 4-letter domains can intensionally be manipulated to sell 4-letter domains at a higher price. Typically the lack of supply tends to motivate people to pay higher prices.

As a 4-letter domain trader, I believe that the information of how many 4-letter domains there are is extremely valuable for two main reasons. Firstly, my pricing of my names is subject to the amount of work it requires for customer to find for similar name. Secondly, if I want to increase my stock of 4-letter names than the information of how many there are at reg fee prices is essential.

I decided to update this thread when the number of available 4-letter domains dropped to the following levels:
22% Remaining - 25th January 2006
19% Remaining - 31st March 2006
16% Remaining - 29th June 2006
13% Remaining - 1st August 2006
10% Remaining - 15th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early April)
9% Remaining - 26th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early May)
8% Remaining - 2nd March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing in June)
7% Remaining - 21st March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early July)
6% Remaining - 3rd July 2007(crossed without traffic testing some time in July)
5% Remaining - 1st August 2007(crossed without traffic testing August 11)
4% Remaining - 14th August 2007(crossed late August)
3% Remaining - 15th September 2007(crossed In September)
2% Remaining - 14th October 2007
1% Remaining - 31st October 2007
0% Remaining - 2nd November - COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!

Although, the number of available domains does sometime rise straight after it drops due to traffic testing and people dropping their domains, I don't consider it worth mentioning unless the rise is as significant as a 3% rise in the number of available domains.

Types of Four Letter Domains that have run out include:
- ALL OF THEM!

Since I started this thread important event about four letter domains that are worth mentioning happenned:

1: Late March/Early April 2006 there was a significant shift in the market for brandable (fake words) 4-letter domains and they started selling at significantly higher prices and the market for the names has been a lot more active ever since.

2: In July 2006, a namepros member 3par launched DYYO.com as a site committed to educating people about 4 letter domains. This is an excellent resource for those who are interested in 4 letter domain names.

3: In early February 2007. All the 4 letter domains starting with the letter A ran out.

4: wasistdas won QQNQ.COM, PCZV.COM & IQKE.COM for the competition for predicting when the 4 Letter domains would run out
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Less than 23% of the 4 letter domain names are unregistered. I thought I'd try to keep this thread updated every time I discover another 1% reduction. I am now routinely checking the percentage of unregisted 4 letter domains.
 
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johntv said:
Sorry, that was indeed me, not kidding here, small world :laugh:
lol.. u 2 running against time.. but nice regs indeed
 
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Malaysia said:
lol.. u 2 running against time.. but nice regs indeed
johntv here has been spotting the same name I want... :hehe:
 
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alexsimon said:
Regged more than 40 LLLL's these days......Now I have more than 200 LLLL's. But they already paid for themselves. Here are the regged ones (sorry for capital letters, copied from Moniker).

Through ppc revenue? Sorry not trying to be nosey ;)

I'm curious as to how those of you with larger say 30-50+ llll.com portfolios are faring by parking them? I guess I am interested to hear about any traffic/revenue to newly regg'ed portfolios..?
 
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alexsimon said:
I mean they paid for themselves because I sold similar LLLL.com 's for high prices. Similar domains paid for the registration cost of these domains would be more correct.
this is how his 40 LLLL have paid for themselves :)
 
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nicedomains said:
I'm curious as to how those of you with larger say 30-50+ llll.com portfolios are faring by parking them? I guess I am interested to hear about any traffic/revenue to newly regg'ed portfolios..?
I hold some +80 LLLL and traffic/clicks are crap. But I don't reg LLLL for earning revenue on parking. I plan to sit on them for +2 years and then resell them. I believe (hope :) ) they will be worth much more than regfee x +2 years then.

I make some money from parking on my LLLL. I usually go for "make easy money", "earn quick cash" and those type of keywords. Daily revenue of $2-$4 will help paying the regfees :).

Good luck

[Latest gems in my portfolio are aixv.com and gcux.com:)]
 
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if you leave out Q Y X V W Z , then they've all gone according to dyyo
 
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doggyowner said:
I hold some +80 LLLL and traffic/clicks are crap. But I don't reg LLLL for earning revenue on parking. I plan to sit on them for +2 years and then resell them. I believe (hope ) they will be worth much more than regfee x +2 years then.
it is the most intelligent thing to do w LLLL -> wait and resell them in about 2-3 years AT LEAST :) :tu:


doggyowner said:
I make some money from parking on my LLLL. I usually go for "make easy money", "earn quick cash" and those type of keywords. Daily revenue of $2-$4 will help paying the regfees .
thanks for these keywords... ive got some that arent doing fine
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bricio said:
this is how his 40 LLLL have paid for themselves :)

Yeah, I saw that right after I posted :hehe:


doggyowner said:
I hold some +80 LLLL and traffic/clicks are crap. But I don't reg LLLL for earning revenue on parking. I plan to sit on them for +2 years and then resell them. I believe (hope ) they will be worth much more than regfee x +2 years then.

I make some money from parking on my LLLL. I usually go for "make easy money", "earn quick cash" and those type of keywords. Daily revenue of $2-$4 will help paying the regfees .

Good luck

Yeah, I agree. Sitting on them is a really good idea. I have a small llll.com portfolio. One (that I co-own) is making some very nice traffic/revenue, certainly enough to pay for all reg fees+. This just means my llll.com portfolio is far too small.
 
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well i am glad so lil are remaining left.. i guess i started off domaining wif LLLL.coms n from sales of LLLL.com i get to buy all the domain i own today.. so i guess LLLL.com really mean smth to me.. i am still holding few hundred LLLL.coms n the sales are paying the renewals so i dun have to worry.. when renewals come.. few hundred
certainly small percentage compared to the 450k+ of LLLL.com but since i got it all free its worth to wait some years till the value increased.. or maybe hold many years
n pass it on to my kids hajust never know..
pass it down like a heirloom..

how i wish i got a dad who owns a lot of LLL.coms n pass it down to me now.. hahha
 
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Malaysia your holding few hundred LLLL.com?

Nice :)

I'm just getting to 200 mark.
 
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Was looking for some 4 letters today and checking acronyms... came across this... don't know why but it kind of tickled me... oh well... when you are grasping at staws...
(fyi you can change the letters)

http://www.dvocha.org/cgi-bin/four.cgi?JKKX
 
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it is getting really hard now to reg a name which has some reference point ie 2 of the letters but without the other 2 being rather ugly, so I find myself baulking at the additional reg.....in short we are getting to the point where nearly all the names currently remaining take on the status of random...so this might account for the last few days remaining names hovering around the 16k mark rather than a relentless downwards push. So the random value is still stuck at a point <$10 IMHO.
 
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xman said:
Malaysia your holding few hundred LLLL.com?

Nice :)

I'm just getting to 200 mark.

yeah./... missed the LLL.coms so now catching up wif LLLL.coms while i can still afford it.. sold a lot last year but back then there is more than 100k available names to choose. now hard to even find one nice one..
but value are definatly more than reg price at least.. so no harm holding..
 
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Great thread.
 
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....now that all the VCCV have gone what if anything is the next attack point?
 
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I see the next few months that all domains without q,z,x will be gone (there are about 60 now).

Then all 3 premium letter + z, and 3 premium letter +x. I acquired more than 60 of these one month ago, and at that time there were more than 700 domains without q,w,y,j,x,v,k,u (with z). Now there are 282. People will tend to tolerate more 3 premium letters+ one bad letter.

I think that soon these domains will be registered.
 
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I need some money to buy more LLLL.com domains :P At least I own 50 thus far... although it'd be nice to own some more before their price shoots up ;) Anyone to buy FEQ.net off me for $1.3k? I could buy 181 LLLL.com domains then :P
 
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I currently have more than 200 LLLL.com's and will rarely buy more. Out of LLLL.com budget. But yes, if I would sell one of my better domains I would invest it in LLLL's. It is a safe investment.
 
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floatingworld said:
....now that all the VCCV have gone what if anything is the next attack point?

VCCY.com (Vowel,Consonant,Consonant,Y) e.g. UZQY.com

One Syllable Domains.

CVYC.com (Consonant, Vowel, Y, Consonant)e.g. ZIYQ.com
CVRC.com (Consonant, Vowel, R, Consonant)e.g. QORJ.com
CVHC.com (Consonant, Vowel, H, Consonant)e.g. XUHP.com
CVCZ.com (Consonant, Vowel, Consonant, Z)e.g. QIVZ.com
CVWC.com (Consonant, Vowel, W, Consonant)e.g. QOWZ.com MOOOOO!

I like QORJ and XUHP that I just found on DYYO today.

It looks like we are getting closer to the 3% mark. (~3.3% today)
 
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if you have good LLLL, I'd glad to buy from you.

alexsimon said:
I currently have more than 200 LLLL.com's and will rarely buy more. Out of LLLL.com budget. But yes, if I would sell one of my better domains I would invest it in LLLL's. It is a safe investment.
 
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