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NO MORE 4 LETTER DOMAIN AVAILABLE TO REGISTER!
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Since early 2005, I have been investing/trading with 4 letter domain names. I started this thread due to the large variation in opinions on how many four letter domains there are available. When I started, I heard a range on viewpoints ranging from 200,000 down to nothing. What I learned that most people did not know how many were available.

Sources of Error for the estimates in number of available 4 letter domains include:

Traffic Testers: These are people who buy thousands of domains at a time to see if the domains are being visited and only keep the small percentage of domains that have regular visitors and cancel their orders for the domains that don't have a regular flow of visitors.

Inefficient ways of making estimates: There are over 450 thousand possible 4-Letter domains. There are short cuts that people can take in estimating the number that been registered that don't include all domains. One short cut that is often taken is for somebody to search through a list of previously available 4 letter names that they purchased (or got for free) and assume that all the names that are not on that list are registered.

People quoting old information:The variation in the number available changes all the time. Estimates that are months old are very different than up to date estimates.

People manipulating information for a sale:It definately is true that incorrect information on the available number of 4-letter domains can intensionally be manipulated to sell 4-letter domains at a higher price. Typically the lack of supply tends to motivate people to pay higher prices.

As a 4-letter domain trader, I believe that the information of how many 4-letter domains there are is extremely valuable for two main reasons. Firstly, my pricing of my names is subject to the amount of work it requires for customer to find for similar name. Secondly, if I want to increase my stock of 4-letter names than the information of how many there are at reg fee prices is essential.

I decided to update this thread when the number of available 4-letter domains dropped to the following levels:
22% Remaining - 25th January 2006
19% Remaining - 31st March 2006
16% Remaining - 29th June 2006
13% Remaining - 1st August 2006
10% Remaining - 15th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early April)
9% Remaining - 26th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early May)
8% Remaining - 2nd March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing in June)
7% Remaining - 21st March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early July)
6% Remaining - 3rd July 2007(crossed without traffic testing some time in July)
5% Remaining - 1st August 2007(crossed without traffic testing August 11)
4% Remaining - 14th August 2007(crossed late August)
3% Remaining - 15th September 2007(crossed In September)
2% Remaining - 14th October 2007
1% Remaining - 31st October 2007
0% Remaining - 2nd November - COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!

Although, the number of available domains does sometime rise straight after it drops due to traffic testing and people dropping their domains, I don't consider it worth mentioning unless the rise is as significant as a 3% rise in the number of available domains.

Types of Four Letter Domains that have run out include:
- ALL OF THEM!

Since I started this thread important event about four letter domains that are worth mentioning happenned:

1: Late March/Early April 2006 there was a significant shift in the market for brandable (fake words) 4-letter domains and they started selling at significantly higher prices and the market for the names has been a lot more active ever since.

2: In July 2006, a namepros member 3par launched DYYO.com as a site committed to educating people about 4 letter domains. This is an excellent resource for those who are interested in 4 letter domain names.

3: In early February 2007. All the 4 letter domains starting with the letter A ran out.

4: wasistdas won QQNQ.COM, PCZV.COM & IQKE.COM for the competition for predicting when the 4 Letter domains would run out
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Less than 23% of the 4 letter domain names are unregistered. I thought I'd try to keep this thread updated every time I discover another 1% reduction. I am now routinely checking the percentage of unregisted 4 letter domains.
 
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I reg'd VYNW (wine world / web) this morning. There are still plenty left without Q X or Z but prepare to sort through the V's! :o

I also got YDMK (Why Direct Marketing?) as an advertising .com

Andrea
 
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Availability dropped by another 239 today to 19,545. We just passed the 5% mark less than 2 weeks ago, and we're already below 4.28% remaining. The 4% mark is at 18,279 -- just 1,266 registrations away.
 
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Although they are almost all gone and most do have unatractive letters I still have been able to find some decently pronouncable combo's.

Here are a few that were availabe as of a few minutes ago:

Please reg some if you are looking and thank me on the way out:) :)

UDATED 2:41 NP time

giqx -- Geeks
huqx
Jeqx
qiyx -- Kicks - taken
veqx
XuwX - taken
Geqz -- Geeks - taken

Jiqz
Qavz -- Caves
Qegz -- Kegs
Qibz - taken
Qogz
Qowz -- Cows
Voqz
zujs - taken
Ioqy - taken

Iuqy
Uoqy - taken



I think that most of these are pronouncable or at least semi-pronouncable.

Loving the LLLL.coms,
GG
 
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Registered IOQY.com and QIBZ.com. Tried XUWX.com but that was already gone. Thanks GreenGambler.
 
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just picked up zujs.com, ujsy (u-jersey), and oypj.com. Thanks GreenGambler! rep added!

Derek
 
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Cronus said:
Availability dropped by another 239 today to 19,545. We just passed the 5% mark less than 2 weeks ago, and we're already below 4.28% remaining. The 4% mark is at 18,279 -- just 1,266 registrations away.

When will they all be reged? Is it likely they'll all be registered before the end of the year?
 
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abdussamad said:
When will they all be reged? Is it likely they'll all be registered before the end of the year?
Yep, before the end of the year for sure, my bet is that Wednesday 21 November will be the day they are all gone :)
 
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johntv said:
Yep, before the end of the year for sure, my bet is that Wednesday 21 November will be the day they are all gone :)
The day my brother is due. That would be cool lol. :D
 
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Only 18,698 LLLL.coms left as of today:) I think this is a new low..

I fee like these last 20k are really gonna move fast, though I may be wrong.

LLLL.coms, Grab 'em while you can!!!
 
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GreenGambler said:
Only 18,698 LLLL.coms left as of today:) I think this is a new low..
Fantastic! People are grabbing LLLL.coms left and right! Total frenzy compared to a couple of months ago. :)

I am no different. Snagged Zvou and LyxK (In Scandinavia Lyx = Luxury) today.

Cheers
 
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Did you see the front page of DYYO.com today?

Looks like 95% regged is official ignoring traffic testing and domains starting with K and W are virtually gone.
 
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VURG said:
Did you see the front page of DYYO.com today?

Looks like 95% regged is official ignoring traffic testing and domains starting with K and W are virtually gone.
It's been on DYYO front page for couple of days now I believe. That is amazing news!

Did you see this coming when you started this thread VURG? ;)
 
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Here are some more available LLLL.coms that I think might be worth the reg. Most are pronouncable or semi-pronouncable.

I cannot reg anymore, I already have over 80 :)

ZoqX.com
YivX.com -- Looks loke DivX, the player
Xihs.com
Vuqz.com
Qekx.com
Qihx.com -- Kicks
Qivz.com
Qiyz.com -- Keys
Jviy.com
Lziy.com
Nqiy.com -- Nickie (female name)
Qhoi.com -- Koi (big gold fish)
Qhuz.com -- 'cause I said so!
Qpiy.com
Qriy.com -- Cry
Qruy.com
Qwau.com
Qwiy.com
Rqiy.com -- Ricky (male name)
Tkuz.com
Vhiy.com
Xhiz.com
Yhuz.com -- You's (the country way of saying You all)
Zniy.com


If you register one maybe you can leave me a rep or something :) :)

Happy Investing!!!!
GG
 
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doggyowner said:
It's been on DYYO front page for couple of days now I believe. That is amazing news!

Did you see this coming when you started this thread VURG? ;)

I think a lot of people saw it coming. There is certainly a lot of people who invested more than me. I sold a few LLLL.com through TDNAM to a buyer who owned approx 6000. BD has a lot of awesome LLLL.com.

.com registration increasing at 25+% a year for the last few years. Early last year there when the thread was started there were between 320 and 330 thousand available. 25% more than 320 is 400. 25% more than 400 is 500. (500,000 > 456976) LLLL.com registration seemed to increase proportionally to .com registration. (another interesting stat. There seems to be a 2:1 ratio of LLLL.com registered to LLLL.net)

The CVCV.com thing shocked me though. If I realised how popular they were, I would have got some while I could. The only one I did get I sold for $29.

My main emphasis on the thread was to help provide stability in the reports on how many 4 letter domains there were. Before the thread the range in reports on the number of available domains fluctuated between 50,000 and 150,000 and often people would be quoting unreliable stats on how many there were. This poor information was inspiring people to buy too many too quickly and losing lots of money. (There was a thread in Sep 2005 where majority vote was that they would run out in 2005)

My method of determining how many were available wasn't great as I used a sample of 2600 random domains and so I was very relieved when Steve (3par) came in and provided very routine and very reliable stats through DYYO.com. I don't know what he does and I don't care but I think it's an awesome site.

This thread took off 3 months ago and seems like there is 5-10 comments a day now. LLLL.com has been a hot topic on Namepros for the last 2 years and it looks like the 4 letter domains running out is finally happenning this year. It's quite exciting but also very frustrating as there is the common thought "Why didn't I buy more good ones while I could?"
 
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I just picked up XLND.com via hand reg B-)

They're going fast and l think they'll soon be no more!

Andrea
 
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One year ago

One year ago I was able to use dyyo.com to handreg LLLL.coms that had PR2-3 almost everyday. Those days have gone but thankfully I've held onto those domains. We'll see in another few years.
 
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GreenGambler said:
Here are some more available LLLL.coms that I think might be worth the reg. Most are pronouncable or semi-pronouncable.

I cannot reg anymore, I already have over 80 :)

ZoqX.com
YivX.com -- Looks loke DivX, the player
Xihs.com
Vuqz.com
Qekx.com
Qihx.com -- Kicks
Qivz.com
Qiyz.com -- Keys
Jviy.com
Lziy.com
Nqiy.com -- Nickie (female name)
Qhoi.com -- Koi (big gold fish)
Qhuz.com -- 'cause I said so!
Qpiy.com
Qriy.com -- Cry
Qruy.com
Qwau.com
Qwiy.com
Rqiy.com -- Ricky (male name)
Tkuz.com
Vhiy.com
Xhiz.com
Yhuz.com -- You's (the country way of saying You all)
Zniy.com


If you register one maybe you can leave me a rep or something :) :)

Happy Investing!!!!
GG
thank u GreenGambler!!!
i took some
rep added
 
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johntv said:
Yep, before the end of the year for sure, my bet is that Wednesday 21 November will be the day they are all gone :)
Actually that is my bet - see the first post in the thread:
Vurg said:
(November) 16th-22nd - accentnepal
There was an earlier Namepros thread where nearly every post bashed LLLL.coms and said they would never run out. 25% growth per year can change a lot of minds.

2 : 1 growth of LLLL com over net?????
Given that the better nets are long gone why would anyone buy LLLL.net? With 4--,--- possible combinations, junk letter LLLL.nets will never...... (blah blah)

Patience, people. Although do note that the value of a com is 10 or more times the value of the same name in net. If you want to speculate you might find better hunting in LLLL.mobi, although that is rather picked over too.

ItalianDragon said:
no, you`re wrong, there are still over 1300 names without QXZ
My misstatement. There are (were) domains with two or more bad letters but no QXZ. Domains with only one bad letter JKUVW or Y are gone.
 
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accentnepal said:
Actually that is my bet - see the first post in the thread:

There was an earlier Namepros thread where nearly every post bashed LLLL.coms and said they would never run out. 25% growth per year can change a lot of minds.

2 : 1 growth of LLLL com over net?????
Given that the better nets are long gone why would anyone buy LLLL.net? With 4--,--- possible combinations, junk letter LLLL.nets will never...... (blah blah)

Patience, people. Although do note that the value of a com is 10 or more times the value of the same name in net. If you want to speculate you might find better hunting in LLLL.mobi, although that is rather picked over too.

I did not know about the contest till last week.....so I`ll say it now if it`s ok:


1th week of October there will be NOTHING LEFT. D-: That`s toooo early.....I go to reg some more!! :xf.love:
 
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just regged some nice ones...HOXV.com (CVCC) VUYG.com (CVCC, or CVVC, depending on how you see 'Y') UYSD.com, and HVTY.com.

Derek
 
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