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NO MORE 4 LETTER DOMAIN AVAILABLE TO REGISTER!
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Since early 2005, I have been investing/trading with 4 letter domain names. I started this thread due to the large variation in opinions on how many four letter domains there are available. When I started, I heard a range on viewpoints ranging from 200,000 down to nothing. What I learned that most people did not know how many were available.

Sources of Error for the estimates in number of available 4 letter domains include:

Traffic Testers: These are people who buy thousands of domains at a time to see if the domains are being visited and only keep the small percentage of domains that have regular visitors and cancel their orders for the domains that don't have a regular flow of visitors.

Inefficient ways of making estimates: There are over 450 thousand possible 4-Letter domains. There are short cuts that people can take in estimating the number that been registered that don't include all domains. One short cut that is often taken is for somebody to search through a list of previously available 4 letter names that they purchased (or got for free) and assume that all the names that are not on that list are registered.

People quoting old information:The variation in the number available changes all the time. Estimates that are months old are very different than up to date estimates.

People manipulating information for a sale:It definately is true that incorrect information on the available number of 4-letter domains can intensionally be manipulated to sell 4-letter domains at a higher price. Typically the lack of supply tends to motivate people to pay higher prices.

As a 4-letter domain trader, I believe that the information of how many 4-letter domains there are is extremely valuable for two main reasons. Firstly, my pricing of my names is subject to the amount of work it requires for customer to find for similar name. Secondly, if I want to increase my stock of 4-letter names than the information of how many there are at reg fee prices is essential.

I decided to update this thread when the number of available 4-letter domains dropped to the following levels:
22% Remaining - 25th January 2006
19% Remaining - 31st March 2006
16% Remaining - 29th June 2006
13% Remaining - 1st August 2006
10% Remaining - 15th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early April)
9% Remaining - 26th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early May)
8% Remaining - 2nd March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing in June)
7% Remaining - 21st March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early July)
6% Remaining - 3rd July 2007(crossed without traffic testing some time in July)
5% Remaining - 1st August 2007(crossed without traffic testing August 11)
4% Remaining - 14th August 2007(crossed late August)
3% Remaining - 15th September 2007(crossed In September)
2% Remaining - 14th October 2007
1% Remaining - 31st October 2007
0% Remaining - 2nd November - COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!

Although, the number of available domains does sometime rise straight after it drops due to traffic testing and people dropping their domains, I don't consider it worth mentioning unless the rise is as significant as a 3% rise in the number of available domains.

Types of Four Letter Domains that have run out include:
- ALL OF THEM!

Since I started this thread important event about four letter domains that are worth mentioning happenned:

1: Late March/Early April 2006 there was a significant shift in the market for brandable (fake words) 4-letter domains and they started selling at significantly higher prices and the market for the names has been a lot more active ever since.

2: In July 2006, a namepros member 3par launched DYYO.com as a site committed to educating people about 4 letter domains. This is an excellent resource for those who are interested in 4 letter domain names.

3: In early February 2007. All the 4 letter domains starting with the letter A ran out.

4: wasistdas won QQNQ.COM, PCZV.COM & IQKE.COM for the competition for predicting when the 4 Letter domains would run out
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Initial Post
Less than 23% of the 4 letter domain names are unregistered. I thought I'd try to keep this thread updated every time I discover another 1% reduction. I am now routinely checking the percentage of unregisted 4 letter domains.
 
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AfternicAfternic
just got XTJE, shameful. Why am I doing this?

Anobiz said:
I have applied my own method of finding LLLL and it works good so far compared to going through whole big list....

Where's the list? or what's the method?
 
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DnPresident said:
Where's the list? or what's the method?

sent pm ...

edited : your offline :yell:
 
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the dyyo.com search where you take out the letters you don't want in the search by any chance? LOL
oops, i said it :hehe:
 
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lol , yeah and you can also jump through pages quickly by changing page='parameter' ,instead of browing one by one to reach page no. 587 ;),I am also using ajax tool for some specific searches .... anyways

good luck to all LLLL hunters ;)
 
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The number of LLLL.com domains is falling pretty quickly now - I predict a mass buyout in 3 month's time; hence all LLLL.com domains will be registered by November :)

I currently hold 45 LLLL.com domains... only one is a 'really good' one (well all premium - GNDF.com), however the rest are of reasonable quality, and I'm sure they'll be worth more than 1 or 2 reg fee's by the end of the year :)
 
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Sooner or later they will all be gone. There hasn't been a single month since March 2006 that the total available has gone up or even remained the same (according to the graph at dyyo.com). As the pot diminishes, people increasingly seem to be able to justify registering QXZ etc (including me in some situations).

Domains that I thought were questionable a few months ago are now in demand. VCVC domains with mediocre letters that could be hand registered are now selling for up to $xxx. I remember publishing a list of available VCVC domains on my site. If only I'd grabbed a few or better still, all of them :D

There are now only 473 available names without QXYZ (source: dyyo.com). These are diminishing very quickly (down from 2,000 or so just over 2 weeks ago). I wonder how long they will last.

Happy domaining,
Matt.
 
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At dyyo.com, couple of days ago there were about 1,000 pages or above,and tonight last page no. is 888 ...
 
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I just checked and the last page no. is 842 and the last LLLL in the list is ZYVM ... I dont know if last night I didnt check properly or they scanned list today with removing registered LLLL ... or the scanning goes automatic by scheduling .....

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can anyone check it out and confirm the figure I have provided?
 
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There are also only 2 domains left that don't contain the letters q, x, y, z or w. I wonder how many minutes it will take before this is down to zilch :)
 
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Anobiz said:
I just checked and the last page no. is 842 and the last LLLL in the list is ZYVM ... I dont know if last night I didnt check properly or they scanned list today with removing registered LLLL ... or the scanning goes automatic by scheduling .....

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can anyone check it out and confirm the figure I have provided?


Yes, you're right. All available = 21,072 divided by 25 per page = 842 pages

Just registered another bunch. This is addictive stuff.

Cheers


NoRest
 
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looks like the tasters have returned from their hols as we are now below 20k :cy:
 
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!!! LESS THAN 20,000 LLLL.coms LEFT !!!!
19,784 to be right exact, though always changing.

That makes me happy :D
 
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GreenGambler said:
!!! LESS THAN 20,000 LLLL.coms LEFT !!!!
19,784 to be right exact, though always changing.

That makes me happy :D


it`s the second time it is under 20K
 
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italiandragon said:
it`s the second time it is under 20K

Thanks ID,

I thought this was the first time but I wasn't for sure. When was the first time, I don't think anyone ever pointed it out in this thread?.. lol


Either way, I'm Happy :) :) :)
 
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It would also appear that the time has finally come when there are now zero LLLL.com domains left that don't contain q, x, y, v or z. DYYO.com shows that there are 4 left but I have checked and they are all registered.

Looks like people will either have to try and snag a rare drop or purchase in the aftermarket if they are after a LLLL.com without lesser quality letters now. Exciting times! :)
 
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AussieDomainer said:
It would also appear that the time has finally come when there are now zero LLLL.com domains left that don't contain q, x, y, v or z. DYYO.com shows that there are 4 left but I have checked and they are all registered.

Looks like people will either have to try and snag a rare drop or purchase in the aftermarket if they are after a LLLL.com without lesser quality letters now. Exciting times! :)


I just regged a beauty with a X and a Q.....

GreenGambler said:
Thanks ID,

I thought this was the first time but I wasn't for sure. When was the first time, I don't think anyone ever pointed it out in this thread?.. lol


Either way, I'm Happy :) :) :)


now I have a doubt.....was it just above 20K or just above? Anyway if it was .....it has been this past week. Anyway not much difference.
 
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italiandragon said:
I just regged a beauty with a X and a Q.....

Congratulations ID :) I agree that there quite a few great names with X, Q etc. in. However in general these have been the least wanted letters in the past. Despite this they can make great domain names with certain combinations.

italiandragon said:
now I have a doubt.....was it just above 20K or just above? Anyway if it was .....it has been this past week. Anyway not much difference.

I'm sure it was just below 20,000 in the past week also. Good to see it has dropped down below the mark once again.
 
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AussieDomainer said:
It would also appear that the time has finally come when there are now zero LLLL.com domains left that don't contain q, x, y, v or z. DYYO.com shows that there are 4 left but I have checked and they are all registered.

Looks like people will either have to try and snag a rare drop or purchase in the aftermarket if they are after a LLLL.com without lesser quality letters now. Exciting times! :)
Check again.

All remaining LLLL.com domains (barring new drops) contain Q, X or Z.
 
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accentnepal said:
Check again.

All remaining LLLL.com domains (barring new drops) contain Q, X or Z.

no, you`re wrong, there are still over 1300 names without QXZ
 
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italiandragon said:
no, you`re wrong, there are still over 1300 names without QXZ



absolutely agree, and three of them will be in my godaddy cart within couple of minuts ...


cheers
 
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