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NO MORE 4 LETTER DOMAIN AVAILABLE TO REGISTER!
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Since early 2005, I have been investing/trading with 4 letter domain names. I started this thread due to the large variation in opinions on how many four letter domains there are available. When I started, I heard a range on viewpoints ranging from 200,000 down to nothing. What I learned that most people did not know how many were available.

Sources of Error for the estimates in number of available 4 letter domains include:

Traffic Testers: These are people who buy thousands of domains at a time to see if the domains are being visited and only keep the small percentage of domains that have regular visitors and cancel their orders for the domains that don't have a regular flow of visitors.

Inefficient ways of making estimates: There are over 450 thousand possible 4-Letter domains. There are short cuts that people can take in estimating the number that been registered that don't include all domains. One short cut that is often taken is for somebody to search through a list of previously available 4 letter names that they purchased (or got for free) and assume that all the names that are not on that list are registered.

People quoting old information:The variation in the number available changes all the time. Estimates that are months old are very different than up to date estimates.

People manipulating information for a sale:It definately is true that incorrect information on the available number of 4-letter domains can intensionally be manipulated to sell 4-letter domains at a higher price. Typically the lack of supply tends to motivate people to pay higher prices.

As a 4-letter domain trader, I believe that the information of how many 4-letter domains there are is extremely valuable for two main reasons. Firstly, my pricing of my names is subject to the amount of work it requires for customer to find for similar name. Secondly, if I want to increase my stock of 4-letter names than the information of how many there are at reg fee prices is essential.

I decided to update this thread when the number of available 4-letter domains dropped to the following levels:
22% Remaining - 25th January 2006
19% Remaining - 31st March 2006
16% Remaining - 29th June 2006
13% Remaining - 1st August 2006
10% Remaining - 15th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early April)
9% Remaining - 26th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early May)
8% Remaining - 2nd March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing in June)
7% Remaining - 21st March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early July)
6% Remaining - 3rd July 2007(crossed without traffic testing some time in July)
5% Remaining - 1st August 2007(crossed without traffic testing August 11)
4% Remaining - 14th August 2007(crossed late August)
3% Remaining - 15th September 2007(crossed In September)
2% Remaining - 14th October 2007
1% Remaining - 31st October 2007
0% Remaining - 2nd November - COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!

Although, the number of available domains does sometime rise straight after it drops due to traffic testing and people dropping their domains, I don't consider it worth mentioning unless the rise is as significant as a 3% rise in the number of available domains.

Types of Four Letter Domains that have run out include:
- ALL OF THEM!

Since I started this thread important event about four letter domains that are worth mentioning happenned:

1: Late March/Early April 2006 there was a significant shift in the market for brandable (fake words) 4-letter domains and they started selling at significantly higher prices and the market for the names has been a lot more active ever since.

2: In July 2006, a namepros member 3par launched DYYO.com as a site committed to educating people about 4 letter domains. This is an excellent resource for those who are interested in 4 letter domain names.

3: In early February 2007. All the 4 letter domains starting with the letter A ran out.

4: wasistdas won QQNQ.COM, PCZV.COM & IQKE.COM for the competition for predicting when the 4 Letter domains would run out
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Initial Post
Less than 23% of the 4 letter domain names are unregistered. I thought I'd try to keep this thread updated every time I discover another 1% reduction. I am now routinely checking the percentage of unregisted 4 letter domains.
 
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GreenGambler said:
... The amount remaining bounced back up to just under 22,000 today, a great time to swoop in and pick up a few good names, just use DYYO.com...
Wish someone out there could be in a swoop mood and take them all. Did my daily regg too, took oucw.com, could be online unlimited championship wrestling :)
Cheers
 
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doggyowner said:
Wish someone out there could be in a swoop mood and take them all. Did my daily regg too, took oucw.com, could be online unlimited championship wrestling :)
Cheers


Argg!! I was literally 5 minutes away from buying that exact domain lol.
 
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poker_bears said:
Argg!! I was literally 5 minutes away from buying that exact domain lol.

doggyowner seems to have an uncanny knack of beating us all to the mark. He must be sitting at his computer 24/7 just waiting for the next great LLLL.com drop! :laugh:
 
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poker_bears said:
Argg!! I was literally 5 minutes away from buying that exact domain lol.
Sorry poker_bears! This time I was lucky.
Being bored at work and regging domain names is the only thing that makes the day go faster :)
AussieDomainer said:
doggyowner seems to have an uncanny knack of beating us all to the mark. He must be sitting at his computer 24/7 just waiting for the next great LLLL.com drop! :laugh:
Busted :)
Cheers..
 
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GreenGambler said:
I don't know if there will be a "big" buy-out. Rather a whole bunch of medium to small buy-outs.. :)

They will all be reg'd though and eventually, with time, they will all stay reg'd.

The amount remaining bounced back up to just under 22,000 today, a great time to swoop in and pick up a few good names, just use DYYO.com

I found and reg'd :
VGMF.com == video game manufacturers
VGKM.com

Those are my two for the day:)

Nice grabs. I just picked up DVQO . com. It's slotted for development as Digital Video Quest Online. I think I will use the youtube model, and use it in a similar manner.
 
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My 2 cents - what we consider "bad letters" are actually VERY popular letters in the Chinese market esp. Q. And there's a large increase in the number of Chinese net users these days so I say hold on to those X, Q & Zs.
 
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There is a fight going on here between the bulls and the bears re 4Ls. The bears are defined as those who have stood aside from acquiring 4L names and are pissed off that they could be missing the boat. They do not like to be reminded that the same arguments re bad letters was made re 3Ls.... Some of the bulls are desperate for the remaining names to be snapped up so that they can avoid a loss before renewal day. Its getting ugly and absolutely great fun to be had by all for the next few months.
 
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dezinerite said:
My 2 cents - what we consider "bad letters" are actually VERY popular letters in the Chinese market esp. Q. And there's a large increase in the number of Chinese net users these days so I say hold on to those X, Q & Zs.

My thoughts exactly. J,K,G,X,Y,Z,Qs are popular in Chinese markets.
 
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floatingworld said:
There is a fight going on here between the bulls and the bears re 4Ls. The bears are defined as those who have stood aside from acquiring 4L names and are pissed off that they could be missing the boat. They do not like to be reminded that the same arguments re bad letters was made re 3Ls.... Some of the bulls are desperate for the remaining names to be snapped up so that they can avoid a loss before renewal day. Its getting ugly and absolutely great fun to be had by all for the next few months.
Thats a good one! :)

Guess I am a bull then. But I am not so worried about renewal date coming up, I am not in it for the quick buck as I am investing in LLLL for the future. I am a believer in short domain names. With the mobile internet and Chinese market Growing with capital G, I believe the demand for short names will also grow.

Let the future decide what animal is right!

Cheers...
 
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doggyowner said:
Thats a good one! :)

Guess I am a bull then. But I am not so worried about renewal date coming up, I am not in it for the quick buck as I am investing in LLLL for the future. I am a believer in short domain names. With the mobile internet and Chinese market Growing with capital G, I believe the demand for short names will also grow.

Let the future decide what animal is right!

Cheers...

Very well said :)

Same here .. LLLL is long term investment for me and renewal fees is just a joke for me when I see their value increasing many more times than $7 I pay for renewal each year
 
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Hmm I beg to differ on names that chinese like. I have observed and studied the way chinese live as I myself am one. However there is a difference of Chinese in my homeland and China. Chinese in China wouldn't pay $XXX for a domain name. They would rather go for a name that's available. No doubt I have seen ugly letters used by chinese sites and they are LLLL.coms, but I will say they will not offer $xxx for any LLLL.coms.

Yes I know that is generalizing but that is their style. Why pay so much for a domain name when all I want is just go for another one that's available. They would think if LLLL.coms sold out. Easy, go on to get the LLLLL.com

Sorry to break the bubble, but yes of cause in the near future ugly letters in LLLL.com would be a gem ;)
 
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I took 10 available LLLL domains today and went on to scan for more.
In about 90,000 domains i have found 323 available ones. very few vowels, its even harder to find one vowel in a word :\

With th eamount of LLLL's gone, the worth would definately rise once they are all gone.
Available domains averaging 0.356%, no doubt all will go in a few months.
 
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jarmas said:
Hmm I beg to differ on names that chinese like. I have observed and studied the way chinese live as I myself am one. However there is a difference of Chinese in my homeland and China. Chinese in China wouldn't pay $XXX for a domain name. They would rather go for a name that's available. No doubt I have seen ugly letters used by chinese sites and they are LLLL.coms, but I will say they will not offer $xxx for any LLLL.coms.

Yes I know that is generalizing but that is their style. Why pay so much for a domain name when all I want is just go for another one that's available. They would think if LLLL.coms sold out. Easy, go on to get the LLLLL.com

Sorry to break the bubble, but yes of cause in the near future ugly letters in LLLL.com would be a gem ;)

yes , I agree on that, so better to do not reg names on Chinese buyers hopes.
 
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I just reg'd uyck.com. Great typo for yuck.com I think. I'm pretty pleased with this grab. Now to see if it gets typo traffic :).

Derek
 
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I second that.
jarmas said:
Hmm I beg to differ on names that chinese like. I have observed and studied the way chinese live as I myself am one. However there is a difference of Chinese in my homeland and China. Chinese in China wouldn't pay $XXX for a domain name. They would rather go for a name that's available. No doubt I have seen ugly letters used by chinese sites and they are LLLL.coms, but I will say they will not offer $xxx for any LLLL.coms.

Yes I know that is generalizing but that is their style. Why pay so much for a domain name when all I want is just go for another one that's available. They would think if LLLL.coms sold out. Easy, go on to get the LLLLL.com

Sorry to break the bubble, but yes of cause in the near future ugly letters in LLLL.com would be a gem ;)
 
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jarmas said:
Hmm I beg to differ on names that chinese like. I have observed and studied the way chinese live as I myself am one. However there is a difference of Chinese in my homeland and China. Chinese in China wouldn't pay $XXX for a domain name. They would rather go for a name that's available. No doubt I have seen ugly letters used by chinese sites and they are LLLL.coms, but I will say they will not offer $xxx for any LLLL.coms.

Yes I know that is generalizing but that is their style. Why pay so much for a domain name when all I want is just go for another one that's available. They would think if LLLL.coms sold out. Easy, go on to get the LLLLL.com

Sorry to break the bubble, but yes of cause in the near future ugly letters in LLLL.com would be a gem ;)

Yeah, people are a lot more savvy with money in Asia normally too.

I love quality LLLL combinations, however hideous LLLL forget it.
Far better off getting good (or any) L-L-L.com

The market for 3 letters over 4 is huge.

The Germans for example love hyphenated L-L-L.DE'S & COMS

Lots of quality L-L-L.coms are developed.
see here:
http://www.namepros.com/domain-name...l-l-l-coms.html?highlight=developed+L-L-L.com
 
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arnie said:
Yeah, people are a lot more savvy with money in Asia normally too.

I love quality LLLL combinations, however hideous LLLL forget it.
Far better off getting good (or any) L-L-L.com

The market for 3 letters over 4 is huge.

The Germans for example love hyphenated L-L-L.DE'S & COMS

Lots of quality L-L-L.coms are developed.
see here:
http://www.namepros.com/domain-name...l-l-l-coms.html?highlight=developed+L-L-L.com


I see people changing from .mobi haters to LLLL.com haters here.
I`ll rather have LLLL.com than double hyphenated .com
 
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italiandragon said:
I see people changing from .mobi haters to LLLL.com haters here.
I`ll rather have LLLL.com than double hyphenated .com

? LOL

I love them all bitch
:hehe:

However , they have to be good letters imo

I have LLLL, some i bought on aftermarket & some handregged recently.
You just have to be careful, that's all.
Same goes for mobi, anything else you care to reg.
With L-L-L.com , if you have even okay letters, the amount of firms it applies to is staggering.

Im always saying it. I have higher hopes for the future for a good L-L-L.com over like XZQ.com for example.
Yeah resellers will always buy, but that's it.

Same goes for XQKZ.com nones ever gonna buy it.
Flipside is CVCV VCVC etc are great. or even something like GMCL for example is prob worth a stack as premium letters & the L on the end for Limited etc.

Read what i say before the knee jerk reaction in future?
I'm on both sides of the camp in terms of differing combinations. However quality over quantity & always on the domainers side
 
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arnie said:
? LOL

I love them all bitch
:hehe:

However , they have to be good letters imo

I have LLLL, some i bought on aftermarket & some handregged recently.
You just have to be careful, that's all.
Same goes for mobi, anything else you care to reg.
With L-L-L.com , if you have even okay letters, the amount of firms it applies to is staggering.

Im always saying it. I have higher hopes for the future for a good L-L-L.com over like XZQ.com for example.
Yeah resellers will always buy, but that's it.

Same goes for XQKZ.com nones ever gonna buy it.
Flipside is CVCV VCVC etc are great. or even something like GMCL for example is prob worth a stack as premium letters & the L on the end for Limited etc.

Read what i say before the knee jerk reaction in future?
I'm on both sides of the camp in terms of differing combinations. However quality over quantity & always on the domainers side

A real Dragon is constantly pissed-off and I was born like that, my nicest mood is angry so go figure :yell:

Then lately , since I can`t argue anymore in the other forum I need to concentrate my arguments here :hehe:

I still don`t like double hyphenated domains, sorry. But you can sell me GMCL for $20 :)
 
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