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COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!

NO MORE 4 LETTER DOMAIN AVAILABLE TO REGISTER!
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Since early 2005, I have been investing/trading with 4 letter domain names. I started this thread due to the large variation in opinions on how many four letter domains there are available. When I started, I heard a range on viewpoints ranging from 200,000 down to nothing. What I learned that most people did not know how many were available.

Sources of Error for the estimates in number of available 4 letter domains include:

Traffic Testers: These are people who buy thousands of domains at a time to see if the domains are being visited and only keep the small percentage of domains that have regular visitors and cancel their orders for the domains that don't have a regular flow of visitors.

Inefficient ways of making estimates: There are over 450 thousand possible 4-Letter domains. There are short cuts that people can take in estimating the number that been registered that don't include all domains. One short cut that is often taken is for somebody to search through a list of previously available 4 letter names that they purchased (or got for free) and assume that all the names that are not on that list are registered.

People quoting old information:The variation in the number available changes all the time. Estimates that are months old are very different than up to date estimates.

People manipulating information for a sale:It definately is true that incorrect information on the available number of 4-letter domains can intensionally be manipulated to sell 4-letter domains at a higher price. Typically the lack of supply tends to motivate people to pay higher prices.

As a 4-letter domain trader, I believe that the information of how many 4-letter domains there are is extremely valuable for two main reasons. Firstly, my pricing of my names is subject to the amount of work it requires for customer to find for similar name. Secondly, if I want to increase my stock of 4-letter names than the information of how many there are at reg fee prices is essential.

I decided to update this thread when the number of available 4-letter domains dropped to the following levels:
22% Remaining - 25th January 2006
19% Remaining - 31st March 2006
16% Remaining - 29th June 2006
13% Remaining - 1st August 2006
10% Remaining - 15th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early April)
9% Remaining - 26th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early May)
8% Remaining - 2nd March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing in June)
7% Remaining - 21st March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early July)
6% Remaining - 3rd July 2007(crossed without traffic testing some time in July)
5% Remaining - 1st August 2007(crossed without traffic testing August 11)
4% Remaining - 14th August 2007(crossed late August)
3% Remaining - 15th September 2007(crossed In September)
2% Remaining - 14th October 2007
1% Remaining - 31st October 2007
0% Remaining - 2nd November - COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!

Although, the number of available domains does sometime rise straight after it drops due to traffic testing and people dropping their domains, I don't consider it worth mentioning unless the rise is as significant as a 3% rise in the number of available domains.

Types of Four Letter Domains that have run out include:
- ALL OF THEM!

Since I started this thread important event about four letter domains that are worth mentioning happenned:

1: Late March/Early April 2006 there was a significant shift in the market for brandable (fake words) 4-letter domains and they started selling at significantly higher prices and the market for the names has been a lot more active ever since.

2: In July 2006, a namepros member 3par launched DYYO.com as a site committed to educating people about 4 letter domains. This is an excellent resource for those who are interested in 4 letter domain names.

3: In early February 2007. All the 4 letter domains starting with the letter A ran out.

4: wasistdas won QQNQ.COM, PCZV.COM & IQKE.COM for the competition for predicting when the 4 Letter domains would run out
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Initial Post
Less than 23% of the 4 letter domain names are unregistered. I thought I'd try to keep this thread updated every time I discover another 1% reduction. I am now routinely checking the percentage of unregisted 4 letter domains.
 
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AfternicAfternic
Regged a couple today, not the best ones out there but what a heck! Never thought I would register QY domains a couple of months ago :)

OyQu - Oy Quatar! OY Query, Own Your Qu
QyAu - Quality Australia, Query Australia
QyEo - Query Your Economical Office, Quality Esperanto

Cheers
 
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Any VCVC or CVCV left?

i don't want to spend several hours going through all the combinations on dyyo. Any idea if any of these are left?

Thanks.
 
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Just regged srxk.com today

Not sure what it may mean, but looks good on paper, lol :yell:
 
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BorderPatrol said:
Just regged srxk.com today

Not sure what it may mean, but looks good on paper, lol :yell:


same here with couple of LLLL domains ... bought them just because they look good on paper :yell:
 
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thebutler said:
i don't want to spend several hours going through all the combinations on dyyo. Any idea if any of these are left?

Thanks.


no, all gone from long time.
 
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italiandragon said:
I have been offering OZUD.com here and highest offer by PM was only $70 while I`m auctioning it at SEDO and the highest bid is $330 with 9 hours left.

I really think next year any LLLL.com will be worth at least $100 and we`ll see threads asking any LLLL.com , obviously first they will try to buy them for $20 - $30 but then slowly the price will reach $100.

That`s my opinion. Time will tell.
Totally agree with you, especially when no LLLL.com will be left to reg, price can go up fast.

Nice sale of ozud.com, the price surprised me positively.

Congrats and I'm happy I gave the first push into Sedo auction :)
 
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Today's dyyo.com browse list shows 20,849 4 letter .com's available.
 
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PeterX said:
Today's dyyo.com browse list shows 20,849 4 letter .com's available.


Sweet, if we keep dropping at this rate they will be sold out very shortly:) Nice!
 
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johntv said:
Totally agree with you, especially when no LLLL.com will be left to reg, price can go up fast.

Nice sale of ozud.com, the price surprised me positively.

Congrats and I'm happy I gave the first push into Sedo auction :)

Hi John, yes I was very happy too, now I`m hoping that buyer will pay soon.

I was confident that I could get more than $100 for it , after seeing that auction for UZUB.com few day earlier ending at $650....I actually thought OZUD could get the same but I`m happy.

18 months ago most of these names were available, this clearly shows that what 18 months was considered as worthless now get low-mid $xxx.

I sent you a PM to thank you for the first bid.
 
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PeterX said:
Today's dyyo.com browse list shows 20,849 4 letter .com's available.
The total has dropped by about 1,000 per day for the last two days. This is much higher than the long term average. I think we are very close to a buyout.

Further, there are now only 642 available domains without QXY or Z. Down from 798 only two days ago and about 1,500 just two weeks ago.

Matt.
 
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I just reg'd:

PRZL.com "pretzel" :wave:

Andrea
 
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It's really interesting to see how fast 4 letter .coms are regged these days and how good names already rise in value fast. I had around 70 start of the year and now around 320 and will keep it at that level, only a few pending sale and that will be it for me.

As more and more 4 letter .com's being sold at Sedo already, for sure interesting times are ahead and am very curious what the price will do once all are regged and gone!
 
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This is getting better and better everyday. I started picking up these 4 letter .com in February and I only accumulated 160 total and I've been buying some decent VCVC in the past month in auctions. To my surprise some of those similar letter structure I bought between the price of $20 - $90 a piece are now selling between $80 - $300 in auctions. I'm still stockpiling VCVCs and premium letters.
 
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I was bidding on the first 3 but stop bidding on mipf.com after $100
 
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xman said:
I was bidding on the first 3 but stop bidding on mipf.com after $100


I was watching them from days and bids were $10 or nothing at all....so I was hoping no one noticed them...instead today....is a fight. If I had money I was buying all of them.
 
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VURG said:
4: On November 25th the list for LLLL.com countdown predictions finished. Below is a list of dates guessed by namepro members as to when the 4 letter domains will run out:
August 2007
1st-6th - kev
7th-12th - PeterX
13th-18th - jkennedy
19th-24th - Fewski
25th-31st - Sid
September 2007
1st-7th - 3par
8th-15th - tomsa
16th-22nd - B33R
23rd-30th - Hayes
October 2007
1st-7th - Brennan
8th-15th - uber
16th-23rd - NameClerk.com
24th-31st - Sabre
November 2007
1st-7th - wasistdas
8th-15th - Travis
16th-22nd - accentnepal
23rd-30th - gtsib
December 2007
1st-15th - Teddy7
16th-31st - MCDomains
After 2007 - Yoshiwara

The prize is 3 LLLL.com domains including one LLLL.com domain with 3 of the letters being the letter Q.*There were two guesses for July 13 due to my error.

Some of you may have forgotten there is a contest involved here to guess when the last of the remaining 4 letter .com's will be registered. Anyway this upcoming week was my guess. So if anyone has a little extra room on their MasterCard - this would be the week to complete the buy out!

Peter
 
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what does everyone think the going price for the current left over ones will be worth 3 months from buyout? I had a quick look and it seems they all contain undesirable letters like Q,Y,X etc
 
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Just reg'd:

OYLV.com

Yes, the countdown continues
 
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PeterX said:
Some of you may have forgotten there is a contest involved here to guess when the last of the remaining 4 letter .com's will be registered. Anyway this upcoming week was my guess. So if anyone has a little extra room on their MasterCard - this would be the week to complete the buy out!

Peter


I did not know about that.....how do I enter the contest?

Thanks
 
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