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NO MORE 4 LETTER DOMAIN AVAILABLE TO REGISTER!
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Since early 2005, I have been investing/trading with 4 letter domain names. I started this thread due to the large variation in opinions on how many four letter domains there are available. When I started, I heard a range on viewpoints ranging from 200,000 down to nothing. What I learned that most people did not know how many were available.

Sources of Error for the estimates in number of available 4 letter domains include:

Traffic Testers: These are people who buy thousands of domains at a time to see if the domains are being visited and only keep the small percentage of domains that have regular visitors and cancel their orders for the domains that don't have a regular flow of visitors.

Inefficient ways of making estimates: There are over 450 thousand possible 4-Letter domains. There are short cuts that people can take in estimating the number that been registered that don't include all domains. One short cut that is often taken is for somebody to search through a list of previously available 4 letter names that they purchased (or got for free) and assume that all the names that are not on that list are registered.

People quoting old information:The variation in the number available changes all the time. Estimates that are months old are very different than up to date estimates.

People manipulating information for a sale:It definately is true that incorrect information on the available number of 4-letter domains can intensionally be manipulated to sell 4-letter domains at a higher price. Typically the lack of supply tends to motivate people to pay higher prices.

As a 4-letter domain trader, I believe that the information of how many 4-letter domains there are is extremely valuable for two main reasons. Firstly, my pricing of my names is subject to the amount of work it requires for customer to find for similar name. Secondly, if I want to increase my stock of 4-letter names than the information of how many there are at reg fee prices is essential.

I decided to update this thread when the number of available 4-letter domains dropped to the following levels:
22% Remaining - 25th January 2006
19% Remaining - 31st March 2006
16% Remaining - 29th June 2006
13% Remaining - 1st August 2006
10% Remaining - 15th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early April)
9% Remaining - 26th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early May)
8% Remaining - 2nd March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing in June)
7% Remaining - 21st March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early July)
6% Remaining - 3rd July 2007(crossed without traffic testing some time in July)
5% Remaining - 1st August 2007(crossed without traffic testing August 11)
4% Remaining - 14th August 2007(crossed late August)
3% Remaining - 15th September 2007(crossed In September)
2% Remaining - 14th October 2007
1% Remaining - 31st October 2007
0% Remaining - 2nd November - COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!

Although, the number of available domains does sometime rise straight after it drops due to traffic testing and people dropping their domains, I don't consider it worth mentioning unless the rise is as significant as a 3% rise in the number of available domains.

Types of Four Letter Domains that have run out include:
- ALL OF THEM!

Since I started this thread important event about four letter domains that are worth mentioning happenned:

1: Late March/Early April 2006 there was a significant shift in the market for brandable (fake words) 4-letter domains and they started selling at significantly higher prices and the market for the names has been a lot more active ever since.

2: In July 2006, a namepros member 3par launched DYYO.com as a site committed to educating people about 4 letter domains. This is an excellent resource for those who are interested in 4 letter domain names.

3: In early February 2007. All the 4 letter domains starting with the letter A ran out.

4: wasistdas won QQNQ.COM, PCZV.COM & IQKE.COM for the competition for predicting when the 4 Letter domains would run out
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Initial Post
Less than 23% of the 4 letter domain names are unregistered. I thought I'd try to keep this thread updated every time I discover another 1% reduction. I am now routinely checking the percentage of unregisted 4 letter domains.
 
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AfternicAfternic
There were 1414 LLLL.com domains on the Pool drop list for today alone. Is there an option in that competition for "never" ?
 
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Lasher said:
There were 1414 LLLL.com domains on the Pool drop list for today alone. Is there an option in that competition for "never" ?
Check those in a week or so. Most likely all the halfway decent ones will be registered.
 
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WGS_Thunder said:
Check those in a week or so. Most likely all the halfway decent ones will be registered.
.. and then another couple thousand will be dropped.
 
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Believe what you want. Here is a chart from lt96.com about llll.coms
Date Up Or Down Percentage Estimate Unregistered
1st May 2006 Down 18.7% 85650
8th May 2006 Down 18.5% 84560
15th May 2006 Down 17.9% 81710
22nd May 2006 Down 17.4% 79742
29th May 2006 Down 16.6% 75869
5th June 2006 Up 17.6% 80301
12th June 2006 Up 18.0% 82397
21st June 2006 Down 17.5% 80041
29th June 2006 Down 14.8% 67648
3rd July 2006 **Up 17.8% 81377
10th July 2006 Down 16.7% 76221
18th July 2006 Down 13.4% 61435
24th July 2006 Up 14.5% 66290
1st August 2006 Down 12.9% 58794
7th August 2006 Up 13.6% 61963
16th August 2006 Up 13.9% 63379
21st August 2006 Down 13.5% 61838
28th August 2006 Up 13.7% 62833
4th Sept 2006 Down 13.2% 60487
11th Sept 2006 Down 12.3% 56418
19th Sept 2006 Up 13.1% 60208
25th Sept 2006 Down 13.0% 59407
2nd Oct 2006 Down 11.8% 54120
 
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Don't get me wrong, I'm a big believer in quality LLLL.com domains, own a couple of hundred myself.

The question I was addressing was the date on which they're all registered, and my answer remains "never" :)
 
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Lasher said:
There were 1414 LLLL.com domains on the Pool drop list for today alone. Is there an option in that competition for "never" ?

There was an option for after 2007. This would include never and has already been taken. I can't afford to monitor the domains forever and so after 2007 was the last option.

Once all the possible guesses have been made, I'll transfer the list of guesses to this thread but will leave the competition thread seperate until then.
 
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As of January 2007...
Via casual observation, I tend to notice around 10 dropped premium LLLL.coms per day. These are quickly regged. Average total daily dropped around 1250. Do these observations jibe with the real numbers? I haven't been doing any tracking scans.
 
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Didn't see any numbers in your private myspace profile. You're probably right though. If 1250 dropped everyday, that'd be 0.2% of the total LLLL.com population per day. An order of magnitude lower might make more sense. Any other thoughts... how many premium LLLL.coms are you noticing drop daily?
 
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The real question is how many premium are dropping so that they can be picked up at reg-fee. And that is almost zero.
 
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How is the 4 letter dot com drop compared to other types? For a typical month, dot com drop ratio is about 1.3%; while for the last quarter, 4 letter dot com has a drop ratio of 0.8%, which is well below the normal ratio.

And majority of the dropped 4 letter dot com are picked up. The table below shows that 80% to 90% of the dropped 4 letter domains will be picked up.

Total drop || Available after 6 month or 1/10/06 || Percent dropped
Jun-06 3103 171 6
Jul-06 3146 238 8
Aug-06 3090 295 10
Sep-06 7133 314 4
Oct-06 4000 599 15
Nov-06 2325 290 12
Dec-06 2873 641 22

BTW, can anybody tell me how to publish an excel spread sheet into html table, without the style information.
 
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jagusa said:
Didn't see any numbers in your private myspace profile. You're probably right though. If 1250 dropped everyday, that'd be 0.2% of the total LLLL.com population per day. An order of magnitude lower might make more sense. Any other thoughts... how many premium LLLL.coms are you noticing drop daily?
Whoa! That was an accident, I meant to post http://dyyo.com. I thought it was still copied, aparently I copied my friends my space url soon after. :hehe:
 
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what is the precise definition of "premium " and "halfway decent"?
 
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Premium IMO are domains such as Sedo, Hybu(Fonzie's), Buzz, Digg, etc.
 
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cache said:
what is the precise definition of "premium " and "halfway decent"?

Good question. A precise definition may let us say whether the complete premium supply has been extinguished. I consider all dictionary words and CVCV to be premiums. Also, naturally pronounceable without Q, X, Z, (Y?)*.

* personally, I like LLLYs.
 
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All LLLL.coms that do not include J,K,Q,U,V,W,X,Y,Z have been bought up for two years. I would include them as premium, along with dictionary and true pronouncable (which also have been gone at least that long).
 
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Hi All

Now is the time to grab.. any LLLL with out the crappy letters in them for reg fee if you can get them, I am paying $20+ for any LLLL with out the crappy letters in them on TDnam.com,

I am working on the idea of getting them for $20 and holding them for 1 year and then off loading them for double or triple what I paid for them.

I think a lot of people will be doing this...

But the really goal should be to hold them for the next 5 years.... i guess you would get 100x back your investment.

Do you have any comments...

Thanks
Tom Dahne
 
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ezimedia said:
Hi All


But the really goal should be to hold them for the next 5 years.... i guess you would get 100x back your investment.

Do you have any comments...

Thanks
Tom Dahne

well 5 years registration @ $8 per year = $40, so with the 100x investment implied would give us $4k per domain....or 100 * original investment would give us $800 per domain. Just assuming we could hedge this financial prediction I think I would hedge against for sure....
 
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actually 20+4*8=52, 100x is $5.2K
can you really sell that much?

floatingworld said:
well 5 years registration @ $8 per year = $40, so with the 100x investment implied would give us $4k per domain....or 100 * original investment would give us $800 per domain. Just assuming we could hedge this financial prediction I think I would hedge against for sure....
 
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My guess would be that poor character LLLL.coms would be worth around $40 in the 12 months following complete registration. I think the premium values will not change much. I'm hoping the somewhat okay letter domains (only one less desirable letter or naturally pronounceable) go up to $75ish.
 
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