.us LLL.us Going Down?

[gou]

I get the feeling that everyone is starting to use 3character.com as a guide for the maximum amount they should pay for LLL domains.
I don't see many people willing to pay even $100 for a decent LLL.us. Did one sale at $90 bring down the value of LLL.us?

 

[Lasher]

Backspaced initial response to keep the board civil.

Let's just say your offers were not realistic.

 

[fonzie_007]

I'd agree that the offers were not realistic and border-lined on being insulting. I actually think the counter of $29,995 for art.us is quite realistic.

 

[domainica]

I'd agree that the offers were not realistic and border-lined on being insulting.

Amen.

 

[Sam]

LLL.us is crashing since there is no real end user database. How is it that you can still REGISTER a LLL.ca, where it is so much more popular in terms of country usage??! That shows the confusing nature of "reseller to reseller" domain prices. You would expect .ca to be higher.

.US was bound to crash. Reseller to reseller only can rise so much.

 

[Kate]

... you can still REGISTER a LLL.ca, where it is so much more popular in terms of country usage....

Good observation. But only the junk letters remain

.US was bound to crash. Reseller to reseller only can rise so much.

I am in acquisition mood
Who said there are no end users:
http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=site:*.us&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Results 1 - 10 of about 72,100,000 for site:*.us. (0.13 seconds)

Other TLDs:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=Iyk&q=site:*.cc&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&q=site:*.ws&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&q=site:*.mobi&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&q=site:*.eu&btnG=Search

Lack of hype keeps prices down.

 

[italiandragon]

Good observation. But only the junk letters remain

I am in acquisition mood
Who said there are no end users:
http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=site:*.us&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Results 1 - 10 of about 72,100,000 for site:*.us. (0.13 seconds)

Other TLDs:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=Iyk&q=site:*.cc&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&q=site:*.ws&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&q=site:*.mobi&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&q=site:*.eu&btnG=Search

Lack of hype keeps prices down.

well it`s still half of Canadian use of .ca:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&q=site:*.ca

Considering the amount of population of the USA versus the smaller Canadian one , that`s not a great result at all.

 

[Lasher]

well it`s still half of Canadian use of .ca:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&q=site:*.ca

Considering the amount of population of the USA versus the smaller Canadian one , that`s not a great result at all.

Isn't that the whole point? Isn't that why we're here? An under-used TLD that has potential to be much bigger. If .US was widely adopted they wouldn't be available at these prices. The CA extension is about all that .CA will ever be, other than the natural growth of internet adoption that will occur everywhere. There is no huge untapped Canadian population not even aware of their country code - it's out there, it's standard, it's known, it's a much more mature market than .US.

Nobody knows how it will play out. The .US names could all expire worthless, they could end up worth a lot, they could just stagnate for another 5 years.

Showing up on the board making sweeping statements about "no end users" with no facts to back it up as the earlier poster did is just trolling and adds no value to anyone here.

 

[italiandragon]

Isn't that the whole point? Isn't that why we're here? An under-used TLD that has potential to be much bigger. If .US was widely adopted they wouldn't be available at these prices. The CA extension is about all that .CA will ever be, other than the natural growth of internet adoption that will occur everywhere. There is no huge untapped Canadian population not even aware of their country code - it's out there, it's standard, it's known, it's a much more mature market than .US.

Nobody knows how it will play out. The .US names could all expire worthless, they could end up worth a lot, they could just stagnate for another 5 years.

Showing up on the board making sweeping statements about "no end users" with no facts to back it up as the earlier poster did is just trolling and adds no value to anyone here.

well....ok, if I want to reg a .us how can I since I have no ties with the US ?

 

[fonzie_007]

Incorporate a company in the USA and you can register all of the .us domains you like.

 

[Cronus]

well....ok, if I want to reg a .us how can I since I have no ties with the US ?

You don't. For better or worse, the .US extension is meant for people/companies which DO have ties to the US. There are plenty of other great (most domainers would say better) extensions for you to speculate in. For example, there have been occasional .ca and .eu domains I've wanted to purchase, but I never have because I don't meet their Nexus requirements. Yes, I could incorporate a bogus shell corporation there or have one of my Canadian friends hold the domains for me, but I'd rather focus on the many legitimate domaining opportunities available to me.

 

[harpo]

doing what others dont do
where theres waning , a growth latent awaits
when one falls their sure to get back up
the sinks stinks but a lemon may help now
all i want is a swim in the ocaen

 

[Sam]

Good observation. But only the junk letters remain

I am in acquisition mood
Who said there are no end users:
http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=site:*.us&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Results 1 - 10 of about 72,100,000 for site:*.us. (0.13 seconds)

Other TLDs:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=Iyk&q=site:*.cc&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&q=site:*.ws&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&q=site:*.mobi&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&q=site:*.eu&btnG=Search

Lack of hype keeps prices down.

my friend, again yes lots of of "google pages". Yes theres always "end users" for any extension, but not even close to other countries . Again, businesses in America must think like an American.

What do American's think? .COM !

Of course that may change, but not much demand for LLL.us. There was that initial surge i think a couple of months back, the price just jumped between reseller to reseller that surge was bound to have a let back.

Edit: There IS NO significant end user base. Again my challenge to you: Find me 10 .us sites with overture with extension above 1000 (major sites). I will reward you with 100 NP if you can do it .

Edit #2: Yes Results 1 - 10 of about 2,670,000 for site:*.cc. Of course LLL.c are still at REG FEE. And so with the others, except .ws (which registry is being a pain, not a real market).

You already know what i think about .mobi, i like .US more then .MOBI. :yell:

 

[Cronus]

There IS NO significant end user base. Again my challenge to you: Find me 10 .us sites with overture with extension above 1000 (major sites). I will reward you with 100 NP if you can do it .

Site - Overture with Extension
xboard.us - 4,744
kaskus.us - 1,513
del.icio.us - 6,760
empornium.us - 1,613
lauxanh.us - 1,915
state.tx.us - 1,153
luyenphim.us - 1,007
arabmusic.us - 1,672
state.nj.us - 2,023
imageshack.us - 21,444

That was easy. I'm looking forward to my 100 NP$ .

 

[Lasher]

What do American's think? .COM !

Of course that may change, but not much demand for LLL.us. There was that initial surge i think a couple of months back, the price just jumped between reseller to reseller that surge was bound to have a let back.

Exactly! You are missing the point entirely here. You are missing why we buy .US domains.

You are right, Americans think .COM. You are right, there is not much end user demand for .US. Investment in .US is investment in the idea that this will not always be so, that is why you can still pick up great names for reg fee.

Any of these things could be a tipping point for .US - but note that they are possibilities not predictions, I make no claim to know where the internet is headed:

1. A company with a clue how to market .US takes over the .US registration. Neustar have failed miserably here.

2. A company such as GD decides to market .US independently of the registry.

3. ICANN (and the GTLDs) are ultimately removed from USA control. Some decisions are made the USA doesn't like, causing people to take a closer look at .US. When the USA complains and the rest of the world replies "Quit complaining, you have a country code just as we do, go use it!", maybe some will.

4. This is more out there in terms of likely to happen but VRSN is a publicly traded company. What do you think it would do to .US domains if a foreign corporation acquired Verisign? No big deal? What if it were BAIDU (Chinese)?

5. I certainly wouldn't hope for such an event but it is real and possible - do you think .US registrations would have increased had .US names been publicly available on 9/11/2001? When everyone was waving their American flags like crazy?

6. More overseas corporations are acquiring .COM for their own use. The reason ccTLDs rule everywhere else is because people can go to sites and see their own currency and content relevant to them. As USA users start to see increasing numbers of .COM domains that are not USA focused, .US gains relevance.

When you invest in .US domains you are investing in future potential. You are investing in the idea that sooner or later the world's largest economy will realize it has this nice little namespace specifically reserved for it.

Telling us there isn't the same level of end user demand as there is for .COM is redundant and pointless - we already know.

Guess I'll never get a response, being on ignore and all

 

[Sam]

Site - Overture with Extension
xboard.us - 4,744
kaskus.us - 1,513
del.icio.us - 6,760
empornium.us - 1,613
lauxanh.us - 1,915
state.tx.us - 1,153
luyenphim.us - 1,007
arabmusic.us - 1,672
state.nj.us - 2,023
imageshack.us - 21,444

That was easy. I'm looking forward to my 100 NP$ .

Bah, I meant 2nd level names but i will throw you some NPS, since all the "real" ones i had on my list already . But ill throw in 10 more NPS if you can find 3 more, not state.**.us

You forgot the most popular one familywatchdog.us there was also techno4.us.

EDIT: Actually, if you could PM me a list of all names above 1000+ w/ext or close to that area, pm me the list and ill pay some more NPS

 

[Cronus]

Bah, I meant 2nd level names but i will throw you some NPS, since all the "real" ones i had on my list already .

Weak. There is nothing wrong with people typing in del.icio.us, state.tx.us, and state.nj.us. They still show .US TLD recognition and are certainly "real" sites. But it isn't hard to find three 2nd-level names to replace them:

keygen.us - 1,367
familywatchdog.us - 33,677
webmail.us - 2,032

Now you have 10.

 

[Sam]

Weak. There is nothing wrong with people typing in del.icio.us, state.tx.us, and state.nj.us. They still show .US TLD recognition and are certainly "real" sites. But it isn't hard to find three 2nd-level names to replace them:

keygen.us - 1,367
familywatchdog.us - 33,677
webmail.us - 2,032

Now you have 10.

PM me if you got anymore. NP donation sent !