.mobi LLL.mobi at RegFee 3character.com

[labrocca]

3-Letter .mobi - $15 (- $15 since January 3, 2009 report ~ Reg Fee)

So does that officially make mobi's the worst possible investment out of all the TLDs? Even .biz has more value now. Oh how the mighty have fallen.

I would like comments by those that still believe their mobi's were a good investment.


One year ago:
3-Letter .mobi - $165 (Unchanged)

Nothing has dropped as dramatically as mobi.

 

[snoop]

So does that officially make mobi's the worst possible investment out of all the TLDs?

Thousands of 3 letter .mobi's available for registration. They are still overstating it, the price should be $0 not $15.

Yes I'd say .mobi has had the largest fall of any category. I'd say the lower quality names are down 100% the highest quality stuff like games.mobi are down 90% from the peak around the end of 2007.

LLLL.com probably takes the silver medal for 2nd worst performing category from the peak, I'd say for that the falls are 75%-100%. (75% for the higher quality names, 100% for the lowest). You could probably lump in all the other "buyout" categories from last year also though LLLL.com was certainly the most prominant.

Having said that it shouln't be forgotten that both those categories did have huge booms. In that regards I would point out .tv as the worst category overall, it has resulted in big losses, particularly the premium names and really never did have much of a run up. It is hard to say what the decline really is for the better names as there was never a particularly liquid market even when people were registering them for $500, $1000 etc per year. Certainly the losses have been huge now that reality has sunk in (people letting lots of them drop).

One year ago:
3-Letter .mobi - $165 (Unchanged)

The peak was around $200 which is what 3char reported in Sep and Oct 2007.

 

[HeyNow]

Yes I'd say .mobi has had the largest fall of any category.

Of course you would say that, you always do, no matter what the reality is.

 

[Mark]

Considering what the extension's intent is/was - I'd think the short domains would be doing better than others. Sorry , But that is Reality ...

 

[maxtorz]

Thousands of 3 letter .mobi's available for registration. They are still overstating it, the price should be $0 not $15.

Yes I'd say .mobi has had the largest fall of any category. I'd say the lower quality names are down 100% the highest quality stuff like games.mobi are down 90% from the peak around the end of 2007.

LLLL.com probably takes the silver medal for 2nd worst performing category from the peak, I'd say for that the falls are 75%-100%. (75% for the higher quality names, 100% for the lowest). You could probably lump in all the other "buyout" categories from last year also though LLLL.com was certainly the most prominant.

Having said that it shouln't be forgotten that both those categories did have huge booms. In that regards I would point out .tv as the worst category overall, it has resulted in big losses, particularly the premium names and really never did have much of a run up. It is hard to say what the decline really is for the better names as there was never a particularly liquid market even when people were registering them for $500, $1000 etc per year. Certainly the losses have been huge now that reality has sunk in (people letting lots of them drop).



The peak was around $200 which is what 3char reported in Sep and Oct 2007.

FYI only 800ish LLL.mobi are still available as of 2 days ago when I did a full scan of all the possible LLL combinations, NOT THOUSANDS!
With the GLOBAL economy at the moment of course nobody wants to pay any money on mobi, LUCKY me and some others on this forum that are investing in mobi right now. It's like lotto but with better odds of making a profit down the road.
There is really no written or no way to calculate a specific percentage of a drop or increase in value for a domain. Some "not so quality LLL.mobi" have sold for high $XXX-$XXXX on Sedo and Afternic. In early 2007 you could sale any LLL mobi for $200 at least, now it's harder indeed to get to that price.
I see big corporations and even small companies launching new mobi sites a lot lately.

 

[labrocca]

Join Date: Jul 2008

You appear new here. Just to make sure ...are you new to domaining?

Might I suggest you read some older longer mobi threads. There was much heated discussions about the prospect of mobi and it's viability as a domainer investment.
Here we are just a little over 2 years from launch. Let's look back in the time machine.

http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/261627-mobi-the-mobile-com-by-2010-a.html

I love this post I made on Nov 26,2006 just 2 months after launch:

http://www.namepros.com/1595187-post79.html

First there was an assumption that cell phone providers would add a default mobi button and now there is an assumption that there will be a major marketing campaign for mobi? I don't understand the pure blind lemming behavior. There is little to no evidence that either of those is true. It's pure speculation as is the domain purchases of many domainers. mobi won't fail...it's already succeeded in making someone a TON of money. What will fail is the many domainers investing their cash into the extension on TERRIBLE names. A good name is a good name. However the mobis I see in the signatures time and again don't make the least sense to me.

People might wonder why I come into the mobi area to post. I realize it's because when I am on other parts I see these sigs with their lists of mobis that just make me laugh. I come in here to see how the frenzy is going and I am usually disgusted by the latest posts of hype. It's all hype and how great mobi is and "look what I got" threads along with praise and adulation.

I don't mind being wrong...can I be wrong..oh certainly. I can admit that. mobi might be the new .com (hehe). Hard to say that and not laugh though.

Everything is done best in moderation. I don't see too much moderation here in the purchases of domains. Could mobi be the first bubble extension? Which in 2 years will burst into flames like the Hindenburgh.

Time WILL tell.

Time has passed and it appears I was 100% right. Not 50%...not 80%...100% on the money right that mobi was gonna tank as a domainer investment.

Who wants to guess what flowers.mobi is worth?

 

[hawkeye]

FYI only 800ish LLL.mobi are still available as of 2 days ago when I did a full scan of all the possible LLL combinations, NOT THOUSANDS!
With the GLOBAL economy at the moment of course nobody wants to pay any money on mobi, LUCKY me and some others on this forum that are investing in mobi right now. It's like lotto but with better odds of making a profit down the road.
There is really no written or no way to calculate a specific percentage of a drop or increase in value for a domain. Some "not so quality LLL.mobi" have sold for high $XXX-$XXXX on Sedo and Afternic. In early 2007 you could sale any LLL mobi for $200 at least, now it's harder indeed to get to that price.
I see big corporations and even small companies launching new mobi sites a lot lately.

You might want to 'duck', for you have defended .mobi, and thus you have unwittingly stirred the wrath, that is to come!! (just the way it is here.)

edit: Ooops, too late. :tri:

 

[GF]

If there were any .mobi that I'd think would do well, its the short ones.

Maybe when the 1 and 2 letter .mobi's are released, it'll cause the LLL to pick back up?

 

[maxtorz]

You appear new here. Just to make sure ...are you new to domaining?

Might I suggest you read some older longer mobi threads. There was much heated discussions about the prospect of mobi and it's viability as a domainer investment.
Here we are just a little over 2 years from launch. Let's look back in the time machine.

http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/261627-mobi-the-mobile-com-by-2010-a.html

I love this post I made on Nov 26,2006 just 2 months after launch:

http://www.namepros.com/1595187-post79.html


Time has passed and it appears I was 100% right. Not 50%...not 80%...100% on the money right that mobi was gonna tank as a domainer investment.

Who wants to guess what flowers.mobi is worth?

New to namepros yes. Example: If dfw.mobi right now on Afternic has 5 offers/$420 at the moment a LLL.mobi with two premium letters and one not then why in the world wouldn't I want to invest into a $8.19 mobi? I don't care who criticizes mobi, there are lots and lots of mobi domains that can make money even in this global recession and anything over REG FEE is PROFIT.
I registered a couple of weeks ago NGV.mobi with "V" being not so premium letter but I figured it would be a great acronym domain(Natural Gas Vehicle) and I got a $300 offer yesterday after emailing a sales letter to 20 companies.
You are right, we are not making $XXXXX figures on mobi but a $8.19 turned into a $200-300 it's cool in my books.

If there were any .mobi that I'd think would do well, its the short ones.

Maybe when the 1 and 2 letter .mobi's are released, it'll cause the LLL to pick back up?

I am sure you know already that you have to fill out a form and be approved before you can register a 1 and 2 letter mobi. I have a 2 letter mobi pending status right now, but I will not disclose the domain quite yet unless I get approved.
Is there anybody else here approved for a L or LL mobi that can relate their experience?

You might want to 'duck', for you have defended .mobi, and thus you have unwittingly stirred the wrath, that is to come!! (just the way it is here.)

edit: Ooops, too late. :tri:

Yes sir, I noticed.
I support lots of extensions like another overlooked CTLD domain .MD(Moldova).
I have seen one letter .MD go for low-mid $XXXX so what did I do? Got lucky and grabbed 1-one letter .MD to keep and see what happens down the road.

 

[snoop]

There is really no written or no way to calculate a specific percentage of a drop or increase in value for a domain.

Actually it is pretty simple, you just need to look at prices. $200 to "not even registered" for low end LLL.mobi is a 100% fall.

Of course you would say that, you always do, no matter what the reality is.

What category can you think of which has fallen more?

FYI only 800ish LLL.mobi are still available as of 2 days ago when I did a full scan of all the possible LLL combinations, NOT THOUSANDS!
With the GLOBAL economy at the moment of course nobody wants to pay any money on mobi, LUCKY me and some others on this forum that are investing in mobi right now. It's like lotto but with better odds of making a profit down the road.

Whilst it might be fashionable to do so I don't think you can simply blame the economy for this one. It was a bubble.

 

[maxtorz]

Actually it is pretty simple, you just need to look at prices. $200 to "not even registered" for low end LLL.mobi is a 100% fall.

We all have one thing in common on this forum, we buy domains and resale them with the hope of making profit. If my $8.19 mobi turned into a $300 offer just 2 weeks latter that makes me a believer in mobi.
Other peoples stats/research/failure charts is different then my view and it has been a good thing so far for me. Subject closed from my side.

 

[HeyNow]

What category can you think of which has fallen more?QUOTE]

.com

Otherwise there wouldn't be 15 .com "gurus" whining about their domains at dnjournal.com.

I don't see the .mobi registry laying-off workers. I see all the usual suspects who deal in bigtime .com (Moniker, Oversee, etc.) laying off lots of employees. At dnjournal they still get their balls greased by Ron Jackson, but they're all hurting.

If I'm wrong, and mTLD registry has laid off 30% of its workers lately, just let me know. If not, quit your B.S. and crawl back into your hole.

 

[mjnels]

FYI only 800ish LLL.mobi are still available as of 2 days ago when I did a full scan of all the possible LLL combinations, NOT THOUSANDS!

you are wrong.. there are still over 2,000 available.

 

[Work In Progress]

If there were any .mobi that I'd think would do well, its the short ones.

Maybe when the 1 and 2 letter .mobi's are released, it'll cause the LLL to pick back up?

Sounds like someone here might have a length complex :hehe:

I actually had the same feeling over 2 years ago. The shorter, the better. I figured people wouldn't want to bother typing in longer names on a mobile.

I was wrong.

My shortest developed name gets about 25 X less traffic than some of my longest developed names.

Even in my parked names, there seems to be no difference. My LLL's get very little traffic while multiple two and three word phrases bypass them. My longest name (parked) is freecrosswordpuzzles dot mobi and it ranks # 3 on my list of most visitors to a parked name.

Sure, one and two letter mobis will be sought after and valuable. No different than other TLD's.

The real value in LLL's , LL's & L domains seems to be their attraction of end users....what we all want. The more companies that fit the acronym, the higher the probability of a sale. With that said, I'm feeling pretty good about LLL mobi future. Basing your failures of an extension on the lack of individuals not willing to pluck down $$ for a "crappy" LLL (which is pretty much what's left) is quite interesting. I saw the "Buy, Buy, Buy" frenzy of the peak of LLL.mobis and sat back shaking my head.

But saying longer mobis don't have a shot is quite short sighted indeed. The keywords, no matter the length, are still rulers of the mobile web. The only question that remains is, are the keywords that people search from a PC going to be the same keywords (or popularity) of mobile searches :?

 

[qO_Op]

Who wants to guess what flowers.mobi is worth?

I suspect that Flowers.mobi is still worth a pretty penny to end users who are targeting the mobile web with their flower selling business.

 

[Kate]

Who wants to guess what flowers.mobi is worth?

Not 200K IMO. That was overpaid.
And the ROI will remain mediocre as long as it's parked...

Did you also predict that LLL.com prices would be falling so dramatically?

They have tanked recently but make no mistake, they will bounce back and continue to grow in value. We are now experiencing a market correction and it is a good time to buy.

 

[labrocca]

Did you also predict that LLL.com prices would be falling so dramatically?

I think the better question is did I predict that LLL.com's would increase to over $7k. The answer to that is no. I never felt they were worth that much increase in such a short time. I'll go on the record saying that LLL.com's should have a minimum price in the $2500-$3500 range instead. I been around a long time.

Domainings time has passed. The golden years are over for flipping for a quick buck. The real investment is development into your best domains. Why care about buying and selling domains constantly when you can have just one site making you $xxx,xxx a year.

Issue #1 with buying and selling domains is that in order to sell...you have to buy. As you sell it's nearly inevitable that you have to buy more to refill your inventory. This makes you a buyer instead of a seller. Eventually the market can't bear all the sellers and prices tumble. As they tumble...others come in to buy cheap. They will sell them for more profit eventually but will come up to that brick wall one day of needed more inventory. See the cycle yet?

With a website. You break that cycle and create a clear revenue stream.

Goodluck to you all with your mobi investments.

I suspect that Flowers.mobi is still worth a pretty penny to end users who are targeting the mobile web with their flower selling business.

Max $25k imho. What's more likely is that Rick won't sell it. He won't get $200k and I bet he won't risk the embarrasment of selling it for a loss.

 

[snoop]

Did you also predict that LLL.com prices would be falling so dramatically?
Such as JQF.com selling for $3,333 on Sedo recently?

Here we are 24 years from .com launch...

You can see the difference here, 100% falls on low end for .mobi versus 60% falls on low end .com's. Plus the low quality LLL.com's rose for the first half of the year. Back when LLL.mobi's peaked at $200 LLL.com was at $4500-$5000 on the low end.

I suspect that Flowers.mobi is still worth a pretty penny to end users who are targeting the mobile web with their flower selling business.

....and my $20 bill could be worth $700 if I win on roulette.

Personally I doubt this name would get more than $20k nowadays.

 

[Traveler]

I would like comments by those that still believe their mobi's were a good investment.

My .mobis were a great investment, I only wish I had purchased more of them when I did. Oh well, I think I got out at the right time though. Although I still have a few I'm keeping for the long haul.

 

[snoop]

My .mobis were a great investment, I only wish I had purchased more of them when I did. Oh well, I think I got out at the right time though. Although I still have a few I'm keeping for the long haul.

Would have thought that some would have done well no doubt, those who got out a year or so particularly, same would be true for LLLL.com and lots of other areas. I suspect though the majority are still in and I feel for those who bought at the top, some people just can't see a bubble until it pops.