Let me know if I'm wrong

[Carbill3]

I have 5 domains for sale. They haven't sold yet, & I am completely tapped out as far as money. I found a quarter yesterday, & I was the happiest man on earth. This is real stuff here. I'm completely broke right now. Anyway, I've been dedicating at least 8 hrs a day trying to find available "valuable" domains. I have quite a list built up right now. I was gathering them for myself so I can make purchases after I sold AT LEAST 1 of my domains, but I haven't sold any yet.

I was thinking that I can offer the available domains at a certain price. Collect the money. Purchase the domain. Then push it, & pocket the profit. It's done in real estate investing all the time. Is that something I could do with domains? Is that a good business practice? Or is there any way I can be compensated for finding these available domains? I put in a great deal of time to find these. I'd hate to just give them away. I'm not trying to get over on anybody. I would just like to be compensated for all my hard work & efforts.

I look forward to all your input. Hopefully it's positive.

 

[ibidu]

I never keep the same ad(s) in the same position if it's not performing well.

You name a position and I've done it.

Above the post,
Below the post,

Above/below related items
All different ads or banners.... you name it and I've done....

I've been in this for a long time and I constantly keep up to date.

I've followed what Goolge calls the "heatmap" - but it won't work for one reason and that is because in general very few traders make money from trading in the long run and since my readers feel that I am one of the few successful traders around because of my blog's longevity, they are resistent to clicking my ads. It can only be this, human nature I guess.

At the same time for those of you who know successful bloggers, "JohnChow dot com" generates huge amount of income every month and that's because his average readers belong to the simpleton family

I personally do not post my sites or blogs in the public forums because of the false figures that it may generate. I don't recommend it to others either but it's up to them if they think there's a gain for them in doing so.

 

[Goran]

Google AdSense is a tricky thing.
Example: 20 days ago I have started a website in Serbian (here is the link if allowed - www.slepocrevo.in.rs - point is it is very basic wordpress website), even if it’s not the best environment for anything related to money and earning. I also had a huge problem at the beginning, and still do, because the domain I have bought is de indexed by Google (but AdSense is not blocked-weird). So all my traffic now comes from Yahoo, Bing, and few blogs and forums where I have posts with links to my site. At the moment I have only 30-35 unique visitors per day, but not a single click in a week. I figured out that I must be doing something wrong. I rearranged website (not much, I don’t want my visitors to ask themselves is it the right place), changed the size and positions of AdSense and IMIDIETLY after change I started to convert some tracking into clicks/money. Now, for these few days of new website I have 4 to 6 click form 35 visitors(today 4 from 22 unique visitors),so it’s a very good CTR.
Point is to experiment and try to find the best combination of content and adds.
From my experience, the best performing adds are the ones in the top of page (text warped around it), may be image or text add, one horizontal unit add below text, so that the reader have an option what to do when he finishes reading, and one vertical link unit, which usually performs well because readers are used to look that place for many and links to other content, so that’s what they find when you give them these adds.

 

[prabakaranm]

I have 5 domains for sale. They haven't sold yet, & I am completely tapped out as far as money. I found a quarter yesterday, & I was the happiest man on earth. This is real stuff here. I'm completely broke right now. Anyway, I've been dedicating at least 8 hrs a day trying to find available "valuable" domains. I have quite a list built up right now. I was gathering them for myself so I can make purchases after I sold AT LEAST 1 of my domains, but I haven't sold any yet.

I was thinking that I can offer the available domains at a certain price. Collect the money. Purchase the domain. Then push it, & pocket the profit. It's done in real estate investing all the time. Is that something I could do with domains? Is that a good business practice? Or is there any way I can be compensated for finding these available domains? I put in a great deal of time to find these. I'd hate to just give them away. I'm not trying to get over on anybody. I would just like to be compensated for all my hard work & efforts.

I look forward to all your input. Hopefully it's positive.

Hi,
First you try to get get the appraisal price for your domains and then think about selling them..........

 

[Sam]

I never keep the same ad(s) in the same position if it's not performing well.

You name a position and I've done it.

Above the post,
Below the post,

Above/below related items
All different ads or banners.... you name it and I've done....

I've been in this for a long time and I constantly keep up to date.

I've followed what Goolge calls the "heatmap" - but it won't work for one reason and that is because in general very few traders make money from trading in the long run and since my readers feel that I am one of the few successful traders around because of my blog's longevity, they are resistent to clicking my ads. It can only be this, human nature I guess.

At the same time for those of you who know successful bloggers, "JohnChow dot com" generates huge amount of income every month and that's because his average readers belong to the simpleton family

I personally do not post my sites or blogs in the public forums because of the false figures that it may generate. I don't recommend it to others either but it's up to them if they think there's a gain for them in doing so.

BINGO. The trick is to get the LAYMAN not the experience guys to go to your websites. Cause the LAYMAN will click on your ads.

 

[.NJ]

I've been dedicating at least 8 hrs a day trying to find available "valuable" domains. I have quite a list built up right now.

Unfortunately this is a trap that many fall into when just starting out.

The bottom line is, in this industry it takes money to make money. And Im not talking about the money spent on hand-reg names.

Instead of spending 8 hrs a day wasting money, spend the 8 hrs researching names that are currently for sale (on the forums, sedo, godaddy auctions, ect....).

Once you find that good deal, take a step back and now focus on how you will promote the name (end-users, resellers, development) to make your best ROI.

It's formulas like this that will start to make you some $$$, not wasting the day on names that will be dropped come next year.

Remember, this time next year you will have to make some very important decisions with regards to renewals ($$$$).

We all have been there and done that in the beginning, and mistakes were made.

I feel just by starting this thread you are taking the first step into a new understanding.

Good luck, and keep your head up. It will all start to make sense soon enough.

 

[Bannen]

Welcome to Namepros;

First, let go of any hope in making $ from posting available domain names. I, and many members here and at other forums, post huge lists of availables (see my sig) for free, and we find much better availables than you currently do since we have more experience in what kind of names we're looking for. You just aren't going to make any moolah posting available domains.

Second, if you do happen to reg new names, the best names to get are the forward-thinking names (new trends, new words, new tech, etc, that look like they may have a strong possibility of value in 1 - 5 years). You have to keep very current in checking trends and news articles to snap up these names because many of us domainers are doing the same thing.
If you MUST reg new names and try to sell them right now, then go to the 'bible' of selling to end users, a thread here at Namepros called 'how to find potential end users', and read it from front to back.

Third, be very careful, do a lot of homework, before thinking about developing sites and trying to make money from ad programs like Adsense. Goog's search algorithms make it increasingly difficult for small sites to rank high in search results, and the economy's downturn has seriously impacted the advertisers who pay for those Adsense clicks... they use fewer keywords, smaller click amounts, smaller daily caps on spending, and there are fewer advertisers, period. Adsense is really in the crapster and you need a lot of details to line up perfectly with each website in order for it to earn you anything worthwhile in ads and/or affiliate stores.
Remember, if it were a 'sure thing' to develop a single website, even with a large amount of development, and make 'thousands per month', we'd all be doing it.

In short: if you have reg fee domains you want to try sell fast, read that thread about finding end users, and then start emailing; forget about making money at posting lists of available names, many have beat you to it and we're free, ha; if you must reg new names, try for forward-thinking names, or localized end user names (local niches like city+dui+lawyers.com, etc) that you can find a list of end users for who may be interested; read around this forum to find what makes a good, sellable, usable domain name, even if it's a reg fee name or a dropped name; if you ever get cash to play with and want to continue with domains, look hard into the aftermarket (buying names already regged, try to flip them); be very circumspect about development - it takes even more time out of your life, and very rarely does anyone succeed with a website enough to even make a part time living.

I said those things not to discourage you, just to slow you down and make you more careful. You seem in a bit of a hurry to make money from domains, and I'm telling you it almost certainly won't happen fast, so I hope you make other plans for immediate survival, and sink into domaining as you grow more knowledgeable/experienced here.

Good luck

 

[Carbill3]

I must say....the education I've received from this thread has been tremendous. There were some highs, & some lows. More lows than highs though. But hey, you gotta take the good with the bad. I set up my blogs on blogger & squidoo. I have a beef with both of them! My blog on blogger is incredibly ugly, & I'm not sure how to fix it. It just keeps getting worse & worse. Plus none of my adsense ads or google affiliate ads are showing up, so there's just big gaps everywhere. It's horrible! My blog on squidoo was very fun to do. My beef with them is that none of MY links are showing up on the published product. They show up on the draft, but not on the finished product. Their links are right there! I got 1 of their amazon links on there as well as ebay & google news. Those showed up, but none of my links from godadday, 1&1, or sedo show up. They wouldn't even accept the code from any of my links from namedrive. You all are more than welcome to look at them, & give me your feedback. Or if you're interested in any of the domains, help me out by registering from my blog. There's a few people in this thread who know my situation. You all know I need all the help I can get. I think the education might be more important though. It's that whole "give a man a fish..." thing. Check em out, & tell me what you think. Maybe even register a name or 2. The title on blogger is Available Quality Domains, & squidoo is List of Domain Names.

 

[JB Lions]

I must say....the education I've received from this thread has been tremendous. There were some highs, & some lows. More lows than highs though. But hey, you gotta take the good with the bad. I set up my blogs on blogger & squidoo. I have a beef with both of them! My blog on blogger is incredibly ugly, & I'm not sure how to fix it. It just keeps getting worse & worse. Plus none of my adsense ads or google affiliate ads are showing up, so there's just big gaps everywhere. It's horrible! My blog on squidoo was very fun to do. My beef with them is that none of MY links are showing up on the published product. They show up on the draft, but not on the finished product. Their links are right there! I got 1 of their amazon links on there as well as ebay & google news. Those showed up, but none of my links from godadday, 1&1, or sedo show up. They wouldn't even accept the code from any of my links from namedrive. You all are more than welcome to look at them, & give me your feedback. Or if you're interested in any of the domains, help me out by registering from my blog. There's a few people in this thread who know my situation. You all know I need all the help I can get. I think the education might be more important though. It's that whole "give a man a fish..." thing. Check em out, & tell me what you think. Maybe even register a name or 2. The title on blogger is Available Quality Domains, & squidoo is List of Domain Names.

If that's your lens squidoo List-of-Domain-Names with dashes, just a couple of things.

Where you have Text module - you should change that to something else, give it a title. The problem with have that kind of thing with Squidoo, is what I posted above, you can only have 9 links out to the same domain. So that's going to limit you, plus you already have a bunch of bloggers doing that already. I was thinking, find something niche, not domain related. You have Halloween and Christmas around the corner. I have 1 Lens that is (something) masks, that does very well every Halloween.

I never keep the same ad(s) in the same position if it's not performing well.

You name a position and I've done it.

Above the post,
Below the post,

Above/below related items
All different ads or banners.... you name it and I've done....

I've been in this for a long time and I constantly keep up to date.

I've followed what Goolge calls the "heatmap" - but it won't work for one reason and that is because in general very few traders make money from trading in the long run and since my readers feel that I am one of the few successful traders around because of my blog's longevity, they are resistent to clicking my ads. It can only be this, human nature I guess.

At the same time for those of you who know successful bloggers, "JohnChow dot com" generates huge amount of income every month and that's because his average readers belong to the simpleton family

I personally do not post my sites or blogs in the public forums because of the false figures that it may generate. I don't recommend it to others either but it's up to them if they think there's a gain for them in doing so.

Somebody touched on it already but looks like you're doing ads/adsense type stuff mostly when an affiliate text link in the content itself would probably yield better results. Or just try to straight up sell ad space. Money up front. I have no idea how much traffic you're getting, but if it's decent, there are people out there looking to buy ads on sites with traffic.

 

[ibidu]

Somebody touched on it already but looks like you're doing ads/adsense type stuff mostly when an affiliate text link in the content itself would probably yield better results. Or just try to straight up sell ad space. Money up front. I have no idea how much traffic you're getting, but if it's decent, there are people out there looking to buy ads on sites with traffic.

The affiliate text link is something I haven't tried, it may be a good idea.

I'm off to Goolge it right now Do you know of a good one yourself?

**Seems that was like a very good suggestion**

 

[JB Lions]

The affiliate text link is something I haven't tried, it may be a good idea.

I'm off to Goolge it right now Do you know of a good one yourself?

**Seems that was like a very good suggestion**

What you should do is sign up with some major affiliate networks such as:

cj.com
linkshare.com
google.com/ads/affiliatenetwork
shareasale.com
affiliate-program.amazon.com/

etc.

Try to find some merchant(s) that closely match what your site is about. Apply to those programs. If/when accepted they usually have banner links, product links, text links. And then you try to incorporate those in your content.

Let's say you're a mom that has a blog and just bought a new baby stroller.

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, I just bought the new Graco Baby Stroller and I love it, blah, blah, blah.

That Graco Baby Stroller link can be an affiliate link to a merchant you're partnered with, Amazon, Diapers.com, ToysRUs, whatever you decide.

Write content, insert affiliate links in the content.

As mentioned earlier, Adsense are like banners now, most have heard the term banner blindness. They're just not new anymore, most people know they're ads. Text links are great because an affiliate link looks just like a regular straight link.

 

[DnEbook]

I never keep the same ad(s) in the same position if it's not performing well.

You name a position and I've done it.

Above the post,
Below the post,

Above/below related items
All different ads or banners.... you name it and I've done....

I've been in this for a long time and I constantly keep up to date.

I've followed what Goolge calls the "heatmap" - but it won't work for one reason and that is because in general very few traders make money from trading in the long run and since my readers feel that I am one of the few successful traders around because of my blog's longevity, they are resistent to clicking my ads. It can only be this, human nature I guess.

At the same time for those of you who know successful bloggers, "JohnChow dot com" generates huge amount of income every month and that's because his average readers belong to the simpleton family

I personally do not post my sites or blogs in the public forums because of the false figures that it may generate. I don't recommend it to others either but it's up to them if they think there's a gain for them in doing so.

I wonder if selling ebooks would help, smashwords.com is one place to join

 

[ibidu]

I wonder if selling ebooks would help, smashwords.com is one place to join

The following is just one type of ad which appears on my blog:


FREE BOOK FOR TRADERS
"Secrets Of Successful traders"
is packed with valuable info designed to make you a better trader.

There is a nice picture of a trader with a laptop incorporated in that ad as well.

And that ad appears just below the post title, just above the latest post!

If they're not clicking on such a marvellous and pertinent ad, they would click on nothing else!

I would click on that ad myself if I were offered it.

 

[alien51]

Text links are great because an affiliate link looks just like a regular straight link.

Affiliophobia (fear of clicking affiliate links), is also on the rise these days.

So do you cloak your affiliate link ID?

 

[enlytend]

So do you cloak your affiliate link ID?

I always do. Nofollow them too.

 

[Bassel]

If you need urgent funds for anything particular, i can donate $15 in your favor.

Let me know.

 

[Carbill3]

If you need urgent funds for anything particular, i can donate $15 in your favor.

Let me know.

You definitely got a deal. Reply via PM

 

[Carbill3]

Well forget the PM. I think all I have to do is provide my PayPal email which is [email protected]. If there's anybody else out there who would like to be a little generous, I would greatly appreciate it. It's pretty tough out there, & I'm trying as hard as I can with the resources I have. Plus I'm still trying to learn as much as possible. I thank you in advance for ANY help you can provide. Thank you.

Carothers Billingsley

 

[Bassel]

Well forget the PM. I think all I have to do is provide my PayPal email which is [email protected]. If there's anybody else out there who would like to be a little generous, I would greatly appreciate it. It's pretty tough out there, & I'm trying as hard as I can with the resources I have. Plus I'm still trying to learn as much as possible. I thank you in advance for ANY help you can provide. Thank you.

Carothers Billingsley

$15 has been sent to you. :lala:

 

[Carbill3]

$15 has been sent to you. :lala:

Hey thanks a million Bassel! Or should I say thanks 15. LOL. It's good to know that there are people out there in this industry who are generous, & willing to help. You are awesome! Thank you.

 

[Bassel]

Hey thanks a million Bassel! Or should I say thanks 15. LOL. It's good to know that there are people out there in this industry who are generous, & willing to help. You are awesome! Thank you.

Thanks, enjoy.