Let me know if I'm wrong

[Carbill3]

I have 5 domains for sale. They haven't sold yet, & I am completely tapped out as far as money. I found a quarter yesterday, & I was the happiest man on earth. This is real stuff here. I'm completely broke right now. Anyway, I've been dedicating at least 8 hrs a day trying to find available "valuable" domains. I have quite a list built up right now. I was gathering them for myself so I can make purchases after I sold AT LEAST 1 of my domains, but I haven't sold any yet.

I was thinking that I can offer the available domains at a certain price. Collect the money. Purchase the domain. Then push it, & pocket the profit. It's done in real estate investing all the time. Is that something I could do with domains? Is that a good business practice? Or is there any way I can be compensated for finding these available domains? I put in a great deal of time to find these. I'd hate to just give them away. I'm not trying to get over on anybody. I would just like to be compensated for all my hard work & efforts.

I look forward to all your input. Hopefully it's positive.

 

[DU]

No one is going to pay for a regfee list.

I wouldn't recommend spending money you cannot afford on names either. I think you should find a better way to spend 8 hrs a day.

 

[alien51]

I put in a great deal of time to find these...... I would just like to be compensated for all my hard work & efforts.

It is a very unfortunate fact of life, that there are types of "hard work" that do not really amount to anything fruitful or valuable. Futile efforts, in short.

If you are comfortable letting us know your domain list, let's see if your efforts do need to be equally compensated. What are those 5 domains you have there?

By the way, if you try to view those Youtube videos from the Google Adsense Team about a stay-home mother who runs a Single (yep, just one) domain website and earning thousands of dollars from ad revenue, then maybe your 8 hours would be much better spent on website development instead.

 

[Carbill3]

Well alien51(I feel wierd saying that lol) I'm a bit leery about providing the list. I would hate for those names to be just given away. Then again, if I provide the list, what are my possibilities of compensation? Is there anything you personally suggest?

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By the way, if you try to view those Youtube videos from the Google Adsense Team about a stay-home mother who runs a Single (yep, just one) domain website and earning thousands of dollars from ad revenue, then maybe your 8 hours would be much better spent on website development instead.

Another thing alien51. I would LOVE to develop a site for 1 of my domains. I even have 1 in mind, but I have absolutely no money at all. I have zero dollars. I was hoping to sell them some so I can develop a site for either the 1 I have in mind, or 1 of the ones on my list, or find some other ones, or buy & sell some domains, or just whatever. Whew! That was a lot of "ors".

 

[tarikpierce]

Join Godaddy as an affiliate, start a Wordpress site, and link to the domains you find.

Godaddy pays 30% commissions on any domains sales so you would earn $3 to $4 per domain registered. Of course, somebody could just bypass your affiliate code but it's worth a shot.

Development is the key. Remember, people use the internet to find information. Plus, it will help increase the value of your domains.

And you can list them at Sedo, Afternic, & Godaddy to sell as well. All this can be done in much less than 8 hours. Hope this helps.

 

[Carbill3]

If its free to create a Wordpress site, I will definitely do that tarikpierce. I'm also not sure if I understand you correctly. I don't own the domains I found. I just found that they were available, so I jotted them down. I have about 50 so far. So if I list them on a Wordpress site, & people register them, I get a commission?

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Oh yeah alien51, the 5 domains I own are:
Interiorwebsitedesign.com
Cantfindadate.com
Datingwomenover40.com
Copperpipeplumbing.com
Tradingofcommodities.com

 

[alien51]

Oh yeah alien51, the 5 domains I own are:
Interiorwebsitedesign.com
Cantfindadate.com
Datingwomenover40.com
Copperpipeplumbing.com
Tradingofcommodities.com

I hate to tell you the bad news about those domains you have in that list....

But anyway, if you are a sleek gigolo with great writing skills, perhaps you can focus your content development on "DatingWomenOver40.com". But then again, the "dating" niche is no longer a niche. It is saturated. There must be 3 billion gigolos out there developing exactly the same kind of sites.

With regards to someone buying those domains from you... well... i'm gonna cry man...

 

[JB Lions]

If its free to create a Wordpress site, I will definitely do that tarikpierce. I'm also not sure if I understand you correctly. I don't own the domains I found. I just found that they were available, so I jotted them down. I have about 50 so far. So if I list them on a Wordpress site, & people register them, I get a commission?

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Oh yeah alien51, the 5 domains I own are:
Interiorwebsitedesign.com
Cantfindadate.com
Datingwomenover40.com
Copperpipeplumbing.com
Tradingofcommodities.com

Yeah, dating is one of the most competitive categories out there, niche would be midget dating or something, I mean small people.

The Wordpress that is free, you can't have affiliate links. If you get hosting, you can. But that cost money. You could use blogger, that's free. If you have a domain already, you can point it to blogger.

The affiliate stuff is basically you link to auctions from your site, people click and you get paid something if they buy, win or whatever, have to read the terms. There are a lot of blogs that do that already tho. You can make a Lens at Squidoo, that's free and a lot of them rank nicely without too much work.

As a side note, people sell Squidoo lenses, they even have a section for that in their forum. Just like pushing a domain, push a lens to another person's account. Sell it straight up because you got a good name, or build one up, rank it, sell it. Some people do that for a living. Can put your own affiliate links, a few, do rev share etc. Take part of that 8 hours a day, not too hard to make money there.

 

[Tippy]

I think you are gonna have a hard time selling/flipping one of those domains. I'd try and stick to 2 words, 3 or more are fine but its got to be something commonly heard/said.

You could always send the list to trusted members and have them give you a few bucks if they decide to reg a name off your list.

If you have a good available domain list the domains on the list should be slowly being regged by others, if you have had this list for weeks/months and they are all still available well that should tell you something.

PS : I'd rather date women under 30

 

[Carbill3]

The Wordpress that is free, you can't have affiliate links. If you get hosting, you can. But that cost money. You could use blogger, that's free. If you have a domain already, you can point it to blogger.

The affiliate stuff is basically you link to auctions from your site, people click and you get paid something if they buy, win or whatever, have to read the terms. There are a lot of blogs that do that already tho. You can make a Lens at Squidoo, that's free and a lot of them rank nicely without too much work.

As a side note, people sell Squidoo lenses, they even have a section for that in their forum. Just like pushing a domain, push a lens to another person's account. Sell it straight up because you got a good name, or build one up, rank it, sell it. Some people do that for a living. Can put your own affiliate links, a few, do rev share etc. Take part of that 8 hours a day, not too hard to make money there.

Wow jblions. That was a ton of insight. Pretty awesome! I wish I would have read it a little earlier, because I just found out about Wordpress the hard way. But the other stuff is great. So I can put affiliate ads on blogger & squidoo? And it's free? That helps out a lot. I figure all the hard work I put in to finding these available quality domains can be put to use by posting about half of them, for starters, on my blog, & anybody who's interested can click on an affiliate link & register the ones they want. I'll try to keep it fresh with anywhere around 25 to 40 names at a rime. If I can do that for free along with being able to sell the blog, that would be AWESOME! And I will personally go out my way to thank the crap out of you. :kickass:

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If you have a good available domain list the domains on the list should be slowly being regged by others, if you have had this list for weeks/months and they are all still available well that should tell you something.

PS : I'd rather date women under 30

Well the list that I currently have was made this week with a few leftover from last week. I threw most of last week's away. I'm trying to keep them as fresh as possible, because they should be going pretty fast. I screwed up pretty bad on the ones I bought, but I have learned so much since then. Now I know exactly what to look for. That's why I know these are quality domains. If, & when, I create my blog, I know I'm going to have to update it about twice a week.

And I prefer women under 30 too.
I just know there are cougar hunters out there

 

[JB Lions]

"So I can put affiliate ads on blogger & squidoo? And it's free?"

Yes. Awhile back, Google even made it easier to use Adsense with Blogger, they're more than happy if you did. And like I said, you can use affiliate links as well. Type in coupon codes into Google, see that blogspot blog on page 1? You gotta build quality tho, as with anything.

Squidoo the same. There was a time you can put as many affiliate links as you wanted, then they got hammered by Google and now I think it's a few affiliate links, don't remember the exact number. And they also do rev share, where you get a portion of Adsense revenue if you wanted. You can keep that, or donate it to charity, they have some options. I would study the top 100 Lens http://www.squidoo.com/browse/top , see how they're doing it, get some ideas. Go to the Google Keyword Tool, try to find something with at least 800-1000 exact match to a few thousand, I try to keep it under 10,000, go niche. At least that's what I do, you can experiment with that.

As far as the number of links for Squidoo, I checked and it says - "If you have more than 9 links to the same domain on a single lens, your lens could get locked for review."

 

[ibidu]

First you have to realise making money as a domainer or an Internet Marketer is not easy. In fact it's the opposite. To actually rely on this as the main line of your income is a big mistake -

For a lot of domainers when they first start it's not really a matter of making money, it's a matter of not losing substantial amount of money while they're going through the learning process.

If you look around the forum you will learn about some people who've put their life's savings in this business when they had no clue what domaining was all about and lost a substantial amount of money.

In real estates every estate has a minimum value but in domaining millions of names registered every day are completely worthless. So you really need to look into your life to see whether you can find a better alternative to create some income for yourself to begin with and then if you really must become a domainer learn about all there is to know gradually but surely.

 

[Carbill3]

I can't thank you enough JB. You are the man! I'm going to put everything you said to use. If I run into any snags, I'll send you a PM. Thanks again. And if you have any other pointers for me, feel free to let me know. I appreciate all your help.

And your avatar is AWESOME!!! That's my favorite movie...all 3 of em collectively

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Alright ibidu. I was feeling pretty good about things until I read your thread. You brought me down a little bit. But I figure that I already lost everything because I was depending on domaining income, so there's no other way for me to go but up. Plus if I utilize free services I'm not losing any investment. But you do have me thinking about a plan b now. I'm going to put a lot of my time and energy in my blog in the meantime though. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[JB Lions]

Yeah, I wouldn't rely on it, they're free services to get you started. But it's something you can do right now, that doesn't cost you anything, that's why I recommended that stuff. The Squidoo stuff is pretty simple, lot of drag and drop.

It's kind of like when I first started, many, many years ago. Didn't have much money, so I got real good at SEO. Then I started making money, then got into PPC, pay per click advertising. Over time, get diversified. Few years ago, got hooked into domaining, literally spend half my time on that now, the other developing some domains/updating sites. I use stuff like Squidoo to help dominate a niche here and there and have some that make good money as well. Website, Twitter account, Squidoo lens etc. I always pay attention to the search results, see what's ranking. You hear a lot of domainers talking more about development nowadays, that's good. Again, get diversified. Lot of opportunity out there to make money on the internet. Just gotta get out there and try things out, see what works for you.

 

[Sam]

Why dont you get an 8-5 job that pays hourly. Relying on this solely in the beginning is almost suicidal.

 

[cdboard]

if you have more time than money, then I suggest developing ONE website and then placing some advertising on it.

write one on-topic article per day for the website.

after a month, you could have a nice website with 30 original articles on it.

Why dont you get an 8-5 job that pays hourly. Relying on this solely in the beginning is almost suicidal.

best advice right there.

 

[Obosh]

Let me share my recent bad experience and story with you.

I recently (1 month back) launched a site (http://www.namestall.com/). In fact it is my first site. This site is all about domain name generator, suggestions and search. I am totally a newbie in this domain industry. Even my domain name was bought by one of my friends who has some idea about this industry.

I took around 4 months to develop all the tools and some tools are unique and very very useful for domainers and domain seekers. Anybody will like my site and my site’s bounce rate is very low and returning visitors is high.

I have 7 affiliations including godaddy, namecheap, names etc…and within 1 month I had more than 1000 unique visitors but unfortunately none converted. And I earned 2 dollar from adsense. Lol.

I think people who visited/visit my site are smart and know who things (links/adsense) works. And they just bypass my affiliate code/link. I am not sure why do they do that. This is very frustrating. But still I will work for my site just because I love my site and I really worked hard to develop my tools.

I think domain/hosting affiliations are not worth trying or encouraging...at least that is my experience (so far)

I would suggest you to concentrate on a sector/industry where people are not smart like domain industry and will click on some of your adsense or affiliate links. Try gardening, cooking, children etc…

Start with free wordpress or blog site….good luck brother…

 

[ibidu]

I have a stock market trading blog which is over 5 years old and for a lot of main keywords it ranks on the 1st page of Goolge.

It hardly gets any revenue from Adsense or anything else, because as it's already mentioned the ppl who read this blog are the brightest people around and they bypass all my ads and the ads are so so relevant.... some of them offering free trading signals and free trading software... I am sure these people instead of clicking on my ads they must take a note of the URL's and bring the sites up externally.

So let's say a newbie has just started to create a blog like mine and has spent 5 years writing unique content for it, and then finding out all that effort came to nothing because of the viewers avoidance of the ads!!

I get so pissed off at times that I feel cheated that I am giving away all my life's experience in such a tough field in return for nothing at all. I have thought of not continuing with the blog any more but I just love writing....

 

[JB Lions]

Well, hopefully a newbie wouldn't wait 5 years. Adsense is in banner blindness territory at this point. Have you ever put the site up for a site review or something? In the Web Design Reviews section here? You never know, maybe someone has 1 tip that could help.

 

[cdboard]

I have a stock market trading blog which is over 5 years old and for a lot of main keywords it ranks on the 1st page of Google.

It hardly gets any revenue from Adsense or anything else,.....

your readers may be so used to seeing adsense and banners that they routinely ignore them.

have you tried viglink or skimlinks? they each have a way to place an affiliate link over existing keywords.

not the option where they modify an existing link, but try the option where they "affilate" some keywords in a page of text.