L-L-L.com what am I missing?

[HappyBunny]

I desperately need the answer to this question.

What makes the prices of L-L-L.coms rising?
I have seen high $xx offered for the names.

They are rare, yes.
But they won't receive type-in traffics.
And no SEO advantages either.

I really cannot see the point in G-W-R.com... for what??

Are there end-users?
Will their price drop in the future?

Awaiting some insights from veterans in this field

 

[Pound]

See http://www.bluebecker.com.

Basically, search engines see G-W-R.com as the same as GWR.com so this does actually help SEO. Also, there definitely are end users (see previous sales) because people are often unable to purchase the genuine 3 letter .com due to previous development or ridiculous asking prices. Oh, and all of my L-L-L.coms receive type in traffic, nothing huge, but enough to prove that someone, somewhere, is typing in these names (my top 3 names get around 300/400 uniques per month). I really can only see the value of these domains increasing in the future (along with LLL.coms) because, as the LLL value increases, more and more people will look for alternatives in a .com presence.

 

[mvl]

w-g-l.com 753/month


And I have several more with traffic.

 

[TheBaldOne]

The way to look on it is that if you have two companies any where in the world with the same initials then only one can have and use the LLL.com, now the other can have and use the L-L-L.com (if of course the owner of the LLL.com doesn't buy it first).

As for value I feel confident that with 1-2 years these L-L-L.com's will equal if not exceed the value of LLL.net's (remember the growth in online advertising and decline of traditional media advertising - radio and tv, this means that advertising is becoming more of a visual medium than an aural medium - hence the hyphens will be seen and not need to be pronounced for the market audiance to remember).

Just my take on it, hope it helps with the discussion.

 

[ulasbbtr]

w-g-l.com 753/month


And I have several more with traffic.

Can you monetize this traffic? If so, what kind of keywords do you choose? I also have couple of l-l-ls getting nice type-in traffic, but I can't decide what kind of keyword to choose. Should I try corresponding abbrevations? Any advice? thanx

 

[buckshotdots]

Many threads on L-L-L's... from developed (around 25% of them are!) To the official aftermarket to the L-L-L.com values by gopc that started the whole thing (2000 posts!!!! some good reading there!). Plus the great website bluebecker!!!

good luck, Gary.

ps- if interested I have some nice ones on sale in my sig

 

[HappyBunny]

Thank you for your responses. I am starting to get the picture but am still confused...

OK, so it is good for SEO. L-L-L is treated the same as LLL.

But... Although there are $x,xxx sales already, how can we be sure that they are / will be developed? Is this not some kind of hype? (people buying for high prices in the hope of selling them later for even higher prices)

I think L-L-L is not good for branding.
Let's say, I have a company named "Northernblue Office Supplies".
Instead of N-O-S.COM, it'd be more logical to use nosupplies.com (which is still available at the time of this writing).
nosupplies.com is far better than n-o-s.com, IMO.

Also, even though L-L-Ls do get type-in traffics, are you sure they are common users and not some domainers who are checking the availability of the names? I think the average Joe would type KID.COM and not K-I-D.COM. What are the visitors thinking when they type the L-L-Ls?


Lastly...
If L-L-L is an alternative to LLL, do you think L-L-L-L would have value as well?
We can apply the same logic. And there are lots of good names still available, i.e. s-o-f-t.com.
L-L-L-L might also be useful for acroyms too, in addition to L-L-L.

Thoughts?

 

[pacopaitz]

Why would an office supply company want to be named NoSupplies.com?

 

[gemstar]

HappyBunny no offence but I think you get the jest of the L-L-L.com thing.
I think you’re trying to squeeze out info you know already but just want it justified. Your posts don’t make sense. L-L-L.com is short sweet and brandable Period!

 

[TheBaldOne]

Happy Bunny I am of the same opinion as Gemstar. So unless something miraculous happens this will be my last post on this thread.

Howmany acronyms do 'you' know? If you are American for example here are a few.

IRS
FBI
CIA
NASA
NATO
WSJ
CNN
ABC

In just this handfull how many do you use the full name for - I would imagine zero.

Of course L_L_L_L.com's and 5L's, 6L's have a value, but generally these are more in the form of words that domainers recognise a higher value than the reg fee.

I, nor anybody else, can say with certainty what the future holds, who knows perhaps WW3 will break out next week and all our domaining efforts will be pointless just as the training a gymnast is doing for the next olympics would be. But we work on the basis that our judgements are based on experience and analysis.

Remember that we are dealing with humans as the end-user, they are not generally stupid, unlike some domainers who think what they say has to be a law that others have to obey. People type in for various reasons various things, but put a good site there and they will come back to it and probably tell others about it.

Now if 'you' feel that this is just a bubble waiting to burst then do not invest in them, and it is definately not up to anyone here to tell you to do so, but the facts of the sales speak for themselves to most analysts, please note I do say most and not all, and if you agree with the minority that is fine, but I just know that 12 hours ago I sold a domain for 20 times what it cost to reister just 4 months ago, and this is only one of several sales I personally have carried out in L-L-L.com's over the past few weeks.

Good luck with your domaining.

 

[buckshotdots]

Seriously, take a few days and read from start to finish "L-L-L.com values". It spells everything out very easily. From development to past sales to well...everything. Then check out bluebecker as everything is right there as well.

Good luck, Gary.

 

[hugegrowth]

The biggest thing L-L-L has going for it is that around 25% are developped sites. So we don't have to wonder if they can be used, they are being used. As a domainer, if you had told me a year ago I'd own dozen's of domains with dashes in them, I'd have said you are crazy. But now, L-L and L-L-L seem to make sense in a world where LL and LLL are commanding xx,xxx prices. There are only so many short .com's to go around. Does a new company want to pick a long domain name, or the L-L-L.com of their company initials? It looks like some go for the L-L-L. One thing the dash does, is it really separates the letters and makes them stand out clearly. Also check any popular two word combos, and four and five letter good keywords, and you will see the dash versions are gone in .com and even many other extensions. for example, names like: hot-rod, G-A-M-E, L-O-A-N-S, etc. It's something you have to do your own research on (like you're doing in this thread) and decide if it's worth the risk or not. These are good questions you raise, because many domainers are inclined to be against the dash, but that is changing as we see end users developping sites.

 

[Pred]

Why would an office supply company want to be named NoSupplies.com?

rofl
rep added

 

[equity78]

There is a reason nosupplies.com is available in Dec of 07 and every L-L-L.com is registered. It certainly is not because nosupplies.com is superior to N-O-S.com.
The other thing being missed here is these were domains regged for $7 where people are selling at 5,10,100,500 times what they paid to register the domain.

 

[HappyBunny]

HappyBunny no offence but I think you get the jest of the L-L-L.com thing.
I think you’re trying to squeeze out info you know already but just want it justified. Your posts don’t make sense. L-L-L.com is short sweet and brandable Period!

All I "know" about L-L-L can be read on my previous posts.
I am not hiding anything.
What do you mean by "trying to squeeze out info you know already but just want it justified" ?
What info?


TheBaldOne: I am not American, maybe that's why I have different perception regarding acronyms. But if L-L-L acronyms are good then we might as well invest in L-L-L-L acronyms too.

buckshotdots, thank you for your advice. There are 80 pages... Wow.

hugegrowth, your post is very informative. You made me realize the nice thing about L-L-L: "One thing the dash does, is it really separates the letters and makes them stand out clearly."
Maybe that's the answer why their prices are so high.
Used for acronyms, AND clarity.
One thing, though: how could you say 25% are developed sites? Do you mean 25% of all registered L-L-L.coms? That's a pretty big number and I find it hard to believe...

equity78: yes there is a reason for everything. I took the name "nosupplies.com" as an example, the "no" can be anything of course. Maybe nysupplies.com.

The other thing being missed here is these were domains regged for $7 where people are selling at 5,10,100,500 times what they paid to register the domain.

I started this thread to find the "why".
The sales are amazing, but why?
Upon reading all your replies I think the answer is best summarized by gemstar:
L-L-L.com is short sweet and brandable Period!

 

[gemstar]

Like I said Happy No offence. I hope you got your answers and we are here to help in the future.
Good luck

 

[HappyBunny]

Thanks!
Your responses have prompted me to explore this L-L-L world...
Although all L-L-L.coms have been registered, I have just managed to register w-a-r-e.com. Do you think it has some value?

 

[Pred]

buckshotdots, thank you for your advice. There are 80 pages... Wow.

hugegrowth, your post is very informative. You made me realize the nice thing about L-L-L: "One thing the dash does, is it really separates the letters and makes them stand out clearly."
Maybe that's the answer why their prices are so high.
Used for acronyms, AND clarity.
One thing, though: how could you say 25% are developed sites? Do you mean 25% of all registered L-L-L.coms? That's a pretty big number and I find it hard to believe...


Upon reading all your replies I think the answer is best summarized by gemstar:
L-L-L.com is short sweet and brandable Period!

no worries dude.

best place to show you about developed L-L-L.com's is here:
http://www.namepros.com/domain-name...l-l-l-coms.html?highlight=developed+L-L-L.com

The developed L-L-L.com thread
We started off finding them, then made it structured, then ran out of room, then Bluebecker started posting on his site, then another member scanned every L-L-L.com and found 25% are developed.
All there in thread
Happy reading
:sold:

 

[gemstar]

Thanks!
Your responses have prompted me to explore this L-L-L world...
Although all L-L-L.coms have been registered, I have just managed to register w-a-r-e.com. Do you think it has some value?

It would depend on if your going to develope a site around that name or if your website name contains those letters (Welcome to W A R E)
What does W A R E meen to you? If your going to park it for revenue I cant answer that question. The reason L-L-L.com is so valuable is because of it's rarity. It has the same combinations of the LLL.com and with the internet continually growing this will be the next development phase. Either the Corporations will buy the L-L-L.com because they own the LLL.com version or end users will snap them up. Remember there are ONLY 17,500 of them in both L-L-L.com and LLL.com. There is no question that they will be highly valuable and wanted in the near future. As the news trickles down to the general public of this info we already know thats when the interest will flood in but that will take some time. as the main thing now is LLL.com
Like they say if you build it they will come. We built a comparable option for the end user and eventually they will come.
Good luck

 

[buckshotdots]

Good luck and welcome to the world of L-L-L!

gary-