Just curious...

[4pm]

Imagine for a second that ICANN decides to change the game. No matter why, let it be US budget deficit or China bought ICANN, whatever..

Starting tomorrow all TLDs (including ccTLDs, all countries except North Korea followed the trend for some unknown but probably political reasons - we dont really care) will cost you $100 to reg or renew any name.

Effective immediately and you need to pay the difference for current year as well.

Assume no upfront cash needed - there's 0% loan facility in place so you may pay all fees at the end of your registration period, lets call it postpaid pricing plan.

You must drop names you dont want to pay for by tomorrow morning by visiting your registrar account and doing some clicking around voodoo as usual

I'm curious to know how many of your domains you would keep then?
How would $500 per name impact your answer ?



Important: developed/parked domains making $100 or more in a year do not count. Only bare old good plain domains with few occasional dollars in parking revs is what of interest





thanks in advance for your input



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[Name Trader]

Given that unlikely scenario, I'd leave the domain business.

 

[4pm]

Given that unlikely scenario, I'd leave the domain business.

Thanks for replying, Stu

Does that mean you dont value any single domain of yours high enough to pay $100 a year for it?


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[Eric Lyon]

I voted for "Less than 100 but more 10", mainly because all mine are developed and I would definitely want to keep the ones that pay for their own renewals + profit at the end of each year. Dropping a couple of the lesser profitable ones would be acceptable.

Of course, my situation is probably a bit different since they are all developed and I'm not just hording names to park with the hopes of eventually selling them one day. I prefer my names to pay for them self till they sell (If I ever decide to sell them), which requires a little development.

To each their own though, we all have different strategies

Eric Lyon

 

[4pm]

I voted for "Less than 100 but more 10", mainly because all mine are developed and I would definitely want to keep the ones that pay for their own renewals + profit at the end of each year. Dropping a couple of the lesser profitable ones would be acceptable.

Thanks, Eric

but that's not fair - developed money-making domains were not supposed to participate, they are really different - i would even go as far as to say developed domains are not domains anymore..

i'll add a line to my initial post


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[m-i-k-e]

I'd imagine there would be a good opportunity for upgrading some names. There could be some interesting drops. That would play into how many of mine I would keep (or drop to make way for better names).

I would be more selective for sure, especially with names that I have 'development plans' for, similarily to how I have had plans to finish my basement for the past 7 years.

 

[Name Trader]

Paying a tenfold (or fiftyfold) increase in registration fees would bankrupt me. Yes I have domains where it would be justified to keep them. But the astronomical fees would still bankrupt me if I couldn't sell them. 100 domains at $100/year is $10,000, at $500/year is $50,000.

Sorry I didn't see the poll before. I voted to quit the business.

 

[Traveler]

Being a developer more than a domainer, I would let most of my undeveloped names go and would be happy at the same time because in your scenario, that would mean lots of names that are great for dev would suddenly become available, so I would not have to keep an inventory of domain names for dev.

 

[4pm]

that would mean lots of names that are great for dev would suddenly become available, so I would not have to keep an inventory of domain names for dev.

Thanks Traveler,

got your point, makes a lot of sense from developers point of view to me


could any pure domain investors/traders/flippers/collectors share their thoughts please?

i suppose no need to ask about 3L coms but would you keep all your 3L nets/orgs for instance?

thanks

 

[Name Trader]

I would keep my 3L .coms but not the .orgs because they are much harder to sell.

 

[alien51]

Does that mean you dont value any single domain of yours high enough to pay $100 a year for it?

Removing all worded discussions aside, what remains is basic cash accounting.

If a domain renewal costs $100 per year, you need to raise money to pay for it. Any businessman who pays a premium investment, will naturally raise the price tag for the merchandise. And raising the price tag will naturally make it more difficult (and longer, perhaps longer than 1 year) to sell the merchandise.

To come up with the money to pay the bills, you need to raise money somewhere. Or else, you will declare bankruptcy.

A businessman who files for bankruptcy, will eventually see his assets low-balled to garbage value.

 

[4pm]

.. 7 voters for now of which 6 would not drop everything and quit

can i ask if you would keep paying for anything other than com?
to be specific - would you keep any of your net/org/co/me/tv?
any chance for anything else like ws/cc/pw/pro/etc?
what kind of names are those if any?
a couple of real examples out of what you own would be great too..


* 2L net/org dont count, thats trivial

 

[alien51]

can i ask if you would keep paying for anything other than com?
to be specific - would you keep any of your net/org/co/me/tv?
any chance for anything else like ws/cc/pw/pro/etc?

You would keep anything that you "believe" would be worth more than $1,000. And you would have to keep your speculation timeframe within say 3 years. Otherwise, it's a financial disaster. If you didn't sell for 3 years, you would have lost $300. You then have to recover that loss from your other domain sale by jacking the price by an additional $300.

As what stub had said, it may look possible in theory. But in reality, it doesn't make any financial sense.

 

[4pm]

You would keep anything that you "believe" would be worth more than $1,000. And you would have to keep your speculation timeframe within say 3 years. Otherwise, it's a financial disaster.

sure, the math is simple.. what i'm trying to figure out is how many of his/her names an average domainer would consider worth paying $100 for. and how many of them would be non-coms if any, what type of names would they be? ..from his real current portfolio, not in theory.
this is a question of how you value your domains, not domains in general or com vs whatever in general

i personally would keep around 15 coms and a couple of me/tv's from what i own

 

[Name Trader]

I can't sell any of my non-.com's now. They would be the very first to go.

 

[Kate]

I think I would keep half of the inventory (roughly), because the domains still have potential in spite of the suddenly increased fees. They can all be developed but you need the skills (no problem) and the time (life is too short).
In this scenario, domaining would become a money losing activity. But I would carry the loss for tax purposes, and the other activities of the company can sustain the portfolio.

 

[lincolndsp]

i will drop worse ones and try to catch the cream of the pop, the game would just escalate to the top of the quality

 

[SpareDomains]

"I'll keep most of mine and that's definitely more than 100 - I own tons of premium domains"

I'd drop some but would definitely keep over 100 for resale plus the 69 currently developed.

 

[.NJ]

I would only keep a couple premiums i own and the one my business runs off of.

Im already dropping most of my $hit now, so dropping them for $100 renewal is a no-brainer.

Given that many right now pay for $100+ renewals for names in obscure extensions with dreams of actually selling them.............. I would say many with the typical lottery dream would still renew their daily hand-regges until their well runs dry.

 

[4pm]

thanks for the replies

what i was trying to research is how domainers value their own portflios (when not too busy with appraising other's )

i mean if cash is not a problem (you dont even need to pay for your renewals in advance in this fancy scenario) what part of your portfilo would you keep if the fees were that high

i personally would afford to keep around 100 at those rates but looking at the quality and trying to be realistic about selling potential/price i would only keep 15-20 out of 500 or so. thats how i judge my overall portfolio quality - it's pretty mean to say the least from my own point (i dont really care much about appraisals of any kind). only less than 5% of mine i'd care to pay $100 a year for.. yet, when i ask myself NOW how many i would keep from what i had a year ago - i say 2-3 max, not sure it's a good progress thou

as SpareDomains said he would keep most of his - so i assume he considers his portfolio consists mostly of high quality and premium names. Meaning he's much happier with his domains than i am with mine

NJ and lincolndsp basically said they would keep best/premiums and drop the rest - but how many of yours are those best/premiums vs so-so you would not keep.
Of course we would all keep what we consider our premiums - the question is how many (assuming you've got cash to keep all but you can do the math and are being rational) vs all you currently have ...and would there be non-coms (of not trivial type i.e. 2L.net etc)


sdsinc - thanks, that what i was most interested in - your "half of the inventory" tells me a lot.
any non-coms among them if i may ask?


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