Is this legal? Ethical?

[domainSPOTLIGHT]

Someone has a name I want registered.

I am unable to reach them by phone/mail/email.

I noticed the domain is not locked.

Is it legal to initiate a transfer to my registrar without ever speaking to the current domain owner? With that new rule stating that if a transfer request is not responded to, the transfer will happen (if the domain is not locked)

How long does the person have to respond to a transfer request?

Your thoughts?

 

[RJ]

Assuming the domain is sitting there unlocked, the person has five days to respond to deny it or the transfer will go through. What you're describing is a form of domain hijacking, and no, its not legal (or ethical).

Best of luck,

RJ

 

[domainSPOTLIGHT]

Ok if it's not legal, why was this 5-day rule added?

 

[barefoottech]

What you're describing is a form a domain hijacking, and no, its not legal (or ethical).



RJ

Wrong ,It is STEALING pure and simple . For anyone to even contemplate an action to remove from the legal owner ,just because they want the name, is very un-ethical .

If it is good enough name to want it ,contact owner and offer to buy it.

How would anyone on this forum feel if the situation was reversed and it was their domain being Stolen.

 

[Zeeble]

If it is good enough name to want it ,contact owner and offer to buy it.

I think that point was already covered.
Maybe their whois information is in correct, in which case the domain has been wrongly registered. I would be fair, and make a call to the registrar, tell them that the whois info maybe wrong. They will contact ICANN, who will send an email on to the domain owner, if the owner doesn't respond within two weeks, the domain will be deleted.

 

[Tippy]

lol, the things some people ask, do you not have any common sense...

 

[Peter]

if you would be happy in knowing that you are theif then fine go ahead.

If someone forgets to lock their car door does that give you the right to take their car? Well this is the same sort of scenario.

I beleive the 5 day rule was started to get around the registrars who hold domains to ransom.

Wrong ,It is STEALING pure and simple . For anyone to even contemplate an action to remove from the legal owner ,just because they want the name, is very un-ethical .

What -RJ- said is not wrong. This is exactly what domain hijacking is. But I do agree with the rest of what you have to say.

 

[deet]

WoW, what a question.

 

[mole]

If the receiving registrar does not get a confirmation of this transfer from the registrant, then I thought the transfer will be aborted?

I know eNom does this, are there any registrants who don't?

 

[-db-]

Like most everyone else here, I'm concerned that anybody would need to ask this question or consider attempting such a thing. This has nothing to do with 5 day waiting periods, lack of replies or contact information. It has everything to do with fraud, theft and purely bad intentions.

 

[Mark]

So just because someone has something you want - You think it is okay to try and Steal it ??? - That seems to be taking the little Green Monsters (Envy and Jealousy) a bit too far :td:

 

[Zeeble]

So just because someone has something you want - You think it is okay to try and Steal it ??? - That seems to be taking the little Green Monsters (Envy and Jealousy) a bit too far :td:

Wow, the question at the top of the topic (Do correct me if I'm wrong) is "Is this legal? ethical?"
This does not mean to say that the poster has actually done a bad deed, it was just a question. And not exactly a stupid one at that.

 

[Argos]

Someone has a name I want registered.

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I noticed the domain is not locked.

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pfffff ... :lala: does your end ("I want") justify the means (stealing) ?

 

[Peter]

Wow, the question at the top of the topic (Do correct me if I'm wrong) is "Is this legal? ethical?"
This does not mean to say that the poster has actually done a bad deed, it was just a question. And not exactly a stupid one at that.

He has asked the question obviously as he is thinking of doing it as can be seen from the way he worded the question.

 

[mole]

The question is - Is it still possible to hijack names this way i.e. just activating a transfer away when the registrant has ((1) his name unlocked, and (2) his admin email addy is dead? I thought that ICANN fixed that gaping hole already?

 

[Mark]

Wow, the question at the top of the topic (Do correct me if I'm wrong) is "Is this legal? ethical?"
This does not mean to say that the poster has actually done a bad deed, it was just a question. And not exactly a stupid one at that.

How is this a SMART Question ? - If I request that all of your money in the Bank be transferred to my account (Without telling you or having any agreements) - Is that Stealing on my part ??? - You darn right it is ....

 

[mole]

So its wrong, but has this theft transfer away issue been solved?

 

[Zeeble]

How is this a SMART Question ? - If I request that all of your money in the Bank be transferred to my account (Without telling you or having any agreements) - Is that Stealing on my part ??? - You darn right it is ....

That is contextually incorrect and thus irrelevant.

I'ts not quite the same as stealing, if the whois info is incorrect (e.g. the email address tel. etc) then in my book, the domain is not properly registered.

 

[Mark]

That is contextually incorrect and thus irrelevant.

I'ts not quite the same as stealing, if the whois info is incorrect (e.g. the email address tel. etc) then in my book, the domain is not properly registered.

No it's not ... Who said ANY of the Whois info is incorrect ?

I am unable to reach them by phone/mail/email.

No one said the whois was wrong - I Trash SnailMail and Emails everyday from People who may be trying to Contact me through my whois - and as far as the phone goes .... Well - I have Voicemail for a reason - Don't expect me to answer unless I need to talk to you !


Even if the Domain isn't properly registered - It's not up to "Joe Schmoe" to try and take it - The Registrars are supposed to be contacted ...

But if you guys think this is such a "Brilliant" Idea - Go ahead and try it -

So its wrong, but has this theft transfer away issue been solved?

In my mind it has - - And I think the majority of people who own domains would consider it theft as well

 

[AdoptableDomains]

Ok if it's not legal, why was this 5-day rule added?

Just because you leave your car unlocked doesn't mean it's legal to take the stereo from it.