Is it just me

[sublimind]

Or are the majority of namepro members very trendy? There are some people here that are making money but others are just following trends and riding coattails of those that are successful. I see many posters who do no thinking of their own and are just trying to discover the new LLL.com or the new mesothelioma.

I feel like most of the posters here are overly optimistic and wasting a ton of money.

I havn't gotten any real valuable advice from this place in a while, it feels like the blind leading the blind.

Maybe i'm pessimistic but i've been seeing things (come on, L-L-L-L.COMs? get real folks!) that are just absurd and theres so much HYPE surrounding them, noone here is going to give you THE MILLION DOLLAR ADVICE that we are all looking for, think for yourselves guys.

 

[biggie]

no it's not just you

http://www.namepros.com/2403007-post36.html

I posted my comments in a couple of those threads and they (including a mod) basically told me to go away

http://www.namepros.com/2417188-post2121.html

the blind only want to hear other blind members opinions

and the leaders don't want any interference


so i decided to let them have their fun


for a while...


also noticed a lot of "fishing" in domains wanted section


people posting ads, then saying they bought some by pm....but their trader rating doesn't change.

 

[sublimind]

no it's not just you

http://www.namepros.com/2403007-post36.html

I posted my comments in a couple of those threads and they (including a mod) basically told me to go away

http://www.namepros.com/2417188-post2121.html

the blind only want to hear other blind members opinions

and the leaders don't want any interference


so i decided to let them have their fun


for a while...


also noticed a lot of "fishing" in domains wanted section


people posting ads, then saying they bought some by pm....but their trader rating doesn't change.

Exactly what i'm saying man! This place is like candy land of housewives and wannabe entrepreneurs who are amassing gigantic portfolios full of worthless trendy domains. For a business forum there are very few rational business minded people.

 

[Skinny]

I gotta agree in part . . . I too don't get the whole L-L-L-L.com etc.

 

[VisualArtistFrankBonilla]

Or are the majority of namepro members very trendy? There are some people here that are making money but others are just following trends and riding coattails of those that are successful. I see many posters who do no thinking of their own and are just trying to discover the new LLL.com or the new mesothelioma.

I feel like most of the posters here are overly optimistic and wasting a ton of money.

I havn't gotten any real valuable advice from this place in a while, it feels like the blind leading the blind.

Maybe i'm pessimistic but i've been seeing things (come on, L-L-L-L.COMs? get real folks!) that are just absurd and theres so much HYPE surrounding them, noone here is going to give you THE MILLION DOLLAR ADVICE that we are all looking for, think for yourselves guys.

It is called a "learning process". I have to agree with you a little bit. I see people registering everything under the sun with .in & .co.in domains. Some are names I let expire, such as a LLL.co.in . Just because it is a LLL.co.in ,and maybe even a word, does not automaticaly make it worth $X,XXX in the future.
People get excited, want to jump on the "money train" , but don't always realize the names they registered aren't top notch. I've done the same. I regged hundred's of .co.in's, knowing it was fairly early enough to beat everyone to the punch, and guarantee I would at least make $xx,xxx in the near future. Probably at least half of those expired, making me ziltch!!!
Frank

 

[DotWeekly]

I agree the number and Quality of posts on NP's is dropping. NP's does fit better to the newbie and there are some crazy domains getting registered every couple of minutes. I have posted a couple posts, one here and one on the "other" forum. I would get one reply here and have about 20 at the other forum and they are Helpful etc.

I still have faith in NP's, but I do not visit as often as I use to. Not much "business" happening.

 

[Gene]

Keep it cool guys. Wherever there is a market making money, there will always be those who go to extremes, there will be those who try to take shortcuts to fast success, there will always be those who think they know what they're doing but have a lot to learn.

Successful domaining has a long learning curve. Successful domaining requires an investment of time and experience. You must make lots of mistakes before you can count yourself among the 20% who know how to build this business.

I feel like most of the posters here are overly optimistic and wasting a ton of money.

That will always be the case in any profit producing environment. Get used to it, and be thankful you've grown enough to recognize it.

I havn't gotten any real valuable advice from this place in a while, it feels like the blind leading the blind.

Are you kidding me??? I've been at this for years, and EVERY time I log into NamePros I learn valuable information from other posters. EVERY time. If you're not finding this, you're either in the top 1% of domaining's most successful entrepreneurs or you're not visiting the right threads (or, you're not reading & understanding).

 

[tpruby]

Or are the majority of namepro members very trendy? There are some people here that are making money but others are just following trends and riding coattails of those that are successful. I see many posters who do no thinking of their own and are just trying to discover the new LLL.com or the new mesothelioma.

I feel like most of the posters here are overly optimistic and wasting a ton of money.

I havn't gotten any real valuable advice from this place in a while, it feels like the blind leading the blind.

Maybe i'm pessimistic but i've been seeing things (come on, L-L-L-L.COMs? get real folks!) that are just absurd and theres so much HYPE surrounding them, noone here is going to give you THE MILLION DOLLAR ADVICE that we are all looking for, think for yourselves guys.

I'm no expert, but from what I gather namepros is no different than any other group or forum. There are trend setters, trend followers and people who don't have a clue what they're really doing...

If you get thousands of regular people together in a forum created around a central topic or business, I bet you will always have this natural outcome from the members...

If your lucky enough to find thousands of people who are successful trail blazers and who gather in one place, then I would keep that clubs name under your hat....

I do agree with one point that has been raised on this thread....some people are registering the oddest .co.in's and .in's, and no one is really challenging them as to how they believe the name will ever be worth anything, as even in the .com, the names are worth relatively little.

Then days and weeks later, you see the same person still registering odd names and then proudly displaying them...

I have registered some awful names, so I have some personal experience in that regard.....
:hehe:

Lastly, I find lots of good advice on a daily basis on namepros.

 

[bricio]

no it's not just you

http://www.namepros.com/2403007-post36.html

I posted my comments in a couple of those threads and they (including a mod) basically told me to go away

http://www.namepros.com/2417188-post2121.html

the blind only want to hear other blind members opinions

and the leaders don't want any interference


so i decided to let them have their fun


for a while...


also noticed a lot of "fishing" in domains wanted section


people posting ads, then saying they bought some by pm....but their trader rating doesn't change.

hey biggie,

i am sorry if in one of my posts i wrote something that seemed "go away from here"
i read the thread since your first post and what i understood is people asked you for evidences such niche wont be successful
as i said before neither you nor us know if it will but we have evidences that it might be as the reasons we stated along the entire thread
all the owners of these names (including me) know they are speculation right now but right now they are easily sold for $30-40 what means a good profit as many were hand reg'd... there were many niches that were speculation one day (for instance LLL, NNN and CCC)

as you said, lets all have fun

 

[JoeCanadian]

Nothing wrong with following a trend. There have been members broadcasting the trend towards 4 letter .com's being registered for at least the past year. Even late-comers to the party have done very well from themselves. I do agree with you on the L-L-L-L.COMs. There's not one of those in my list of domains and there won't be.

 

[biggie]

hey biggie,

i am sorry if in one of my posts i wrote something that seemed "go away from here"
i read the thread since your first post and what i understood is people asked you for evidences such niche wont be successful
as i said before neither you nor us know if it will but we have evidences that it might be as the reasons we stated along the entire thread
all the owners of these names (including me) know they are speculation right now but right now they are easily sold for $30-40 what means a good profit as many were hand reg'd... there were many niches that were speculation one day (for instance LLL, NNN and CCC)

as you said, lets all have fun

i appreciate that gesture "bricio" thanks




i guess every newbie has to start somewhere

and a profit is a profit, no matter how small


we aren't prophets...
though some have vision

our eyes must be open
to see where we are going...

 

[Michael]

You just have to keep your eyes open and make friends with the right people. I came to NamePros six months ago knowing next to nothing about domaining and only having a few LQ LLLL.coms in my account.

Just from the knowledge I garnered on NP I'm making more than double what I make at my day job doing this part time. The information is there, you just have to know how to read between the lines.

If people want to jump on the "Official Countdown" bandwagons let them have their fun and learn their lessons. If it doesn't hurt you why does it bother you so much?

 

[-REECE-]

I'm making upwards of $100 a day, each and every day from business done just with Namepros members...

Business is good here, as are the people.

For those wondering, I'm the mod that defended L-L-L.com investors and for what it's worth, I own zero L-L-L.coms myself.

I see nothing wrong with them though and considering there are actual documented sales for X,XXX, it certainly isn't a poorer choice than many alternatives for the cash strapped investor.

I love how the "dotcom gods" tell new domainers to go out and handreg names... Like they reg anything decent themselves nowadays?

How many people have made 10k off hand regs this year? 20k? 30k? 100k? More than 100k?

There just isn't any money in that anymore, and some of those dotcom guys do need to wake up and see that.

So we follow trends -- not all that unlike LLL.coms, L-L.coms, NNNN.coms, CCC.coms, etc of the past? A bad investment? I think not.

Considering the value of each of the above mentioned domains, I'd think investing in every single "hype" would actually be profitable...

Now if someone wants to invest in L-L-L.coms, LLLL.coms, etc, what's the problem with that, or are we jealous that we missed out on the opportunity of 2007, just like we missed out on the opportunity of 1997, 1998, 1999 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, and 2006 (and soon to be 2008) ?

If we should learn anything from the "big guys" in this business, it's that sometimes it requires taking a risk to make money. Those of us who took a risk and invested big time in L-L-L.coms or LLLL.coms pre-buyout have done very well for ourselves. Whether the trend holds or not -- time will tell.

But avoiding trends and the "next big thing" is plain and simply stupid. Trends are the only place where the expression "it takes money to make money" seems to not apply -- or at least not quite as much.

 

[sublimind]

I'm making upwards of $100 a day, each and every day from business done just with Namepros members...

Business is good here, as are the people.

For those wondering, I'm the mod that defended L-L-L.com investors and for what it's worth, I own zero L-L-L.coms myself.

I see nothing wrong with them though and considering there are actual documented sales for X,XXX, it certainly isn't a poorer choice than many alternatives for the cash strapped investor.

I love how the "dotcom gods" tell new domainers to go out and handreg names... Like they reg anything decent themselves nowadays?

How many people have made 10k off hand regs this year? 20k? 30k? 100k? More than 100k?

There just isn't any money in that anymore, and some of those dotcom guys do need to wake up and see that.

So we follow trends -- not all that unlike LLL.coms, L-L.coms, NNNN.coms, CCC.coms, etc of the past? A bad investment? I think not.

Considering the value of each of the above mentioned domains, I'd think investing in every single "hype" would actually be profitable...

Now if someone wants to invest in L-L-L.coms, LLLL.coms, etc, what's the problem with that, or are we jealous that we missed out on the opportunity of 2007, just like we missed out on the opportunity of 1997, 1998, 1999 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, and 2006 (and soon to be 2008) ?

If we should learn anything from the "big guys" in this business, it's that sometimes it requires taking a risk to make money. Those of us who took a risk and invested big time in L-L-L.coms or LLLL.coms pre-buyout have done very well for ourselves. Whether the trend holds or not -- time will tell.

But avoiding trends and the "next big thing" is plain and simple stupid. Trends are the only place where the expression "it takes money to make money" seems to not apply -- or at least not quite as much.

This is exactly the kind of post that i want to see more of here!

A post that challenges itself and gives an accurate explanation, no over optimistic "everything is okay" attitude bias that everyone seems to have here.

 

[VisualArtistFrankBonilla]

I'm making upwards of $100 a day, each and every day from business done just with Namepros members...

Business is good here, as are the people.

For those wondering, I'm the mod that defended L-L-L.com investors and for what it's worth, I own zero L-L-L.coms myself.

I see nothing wrong with them though and considering there are actual documented sales for X,XXX, it certainly isn't a poorer choice than many alternatives for the cash strapped investor.

I love how the "dotcom gods" tell new domainers to go out and handreg names... Like they reg anything decent themselves nowadays?

How many people have made 10k off hand regs this year? 20k? 30k? 100k? More than 100k?

There just isn't any money in that anymore, and some of those dotcom guys do need to wake up and see that.

So we follow trends -- not all that unlike LLL.coms, L-L.coms, NNNN.coms, CCC.coms, etc of the past? A bad investment? I think not.

Considering the value of each of the above mentioned domains, I'd think investing in every single "hype" would actually be profitable...

Now if someone wants to invest in L-L-L.coms, LLLL.coms, etc, what's the problem with that, or are we jealous that we missed out on the opportunity of 2007, just like we missed out on the opportunity of 1997, 1998, 1999 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, and 2006 (and soon to be 2008) ?

If we should learn anything from the "big guys" in this business, it's that sometimes it requires taking a risk to make money. Those of us who took a risk and invested big time in L-L-L.coms or LLLL.coms pre-buyout have done very well for ourselves. Whether the trend holds or not -- time will tell.

But avoiding trends and the "next big thing" is plain and simply stupid. Trends are the only place where the expression "it takes money to make money" seems to not apply -- or at least not quite as much.

I agree with Reece 100%, you have to be trendy, otherwise you would never make any money with old boring ideas. You have to find the latest gadgets, ideas, etc.I was just saying sometimes we go overboard, and reg too many domains.

Frank

 

[Broker]

Keep it cool guys. Wherever there is a market making money, there will always be those who go to extremes, there will be those who try to take shortcuts to fast success, there will always be those who think they know what they're doing but have a lot to learn.

Successful domaining has a long learning curve. Successful domaining requires an investment of time and experience. You must make lots of mistakes before you can count yourself among the 20% who know how to build this business.

That will always be the case in any profit producing environment. Get used to it, and be thankful you've grown enough to recognize it.

Are you kidding me??? I've been at this for years, and EVERY time I log into NamePros I learn valuable information from other posters. EVERY time. If you're not finding this, you're either in the top 1% of domaining's most successful entrepreneurs or you're not visiting the right threads (or, you're not reading & understanding).

Well said Gene :imho:

 

[shockie]

true... sometimes i feel like the new kids are doing most of the posting, and all the old kids are tired of telling them about trademarks and how the their domains make no sense.

 

[domainer50]

ABSOLUTELY. People simply buy what they are told more or less. If I started a thread saying "The official LLLLLL.com countdown" I would be guaranteed to draw some attention. Obviously some LLLLLL.com names are real words, generic, and valuable. But for the most part xyqzqy.com and the like are worthless

 

[-REECE-]

It's funny that no matter what forum I read it on, it's always the old timers that seem to do most of the complaining...

It's also funny that these "old experts" rarely make even a fraction of what the boldest so called newbies make on the speculative investments they take...

It's no different than life... You can put your money in a GIC -- or a stock. Your GIC in this business (let's call it LLL.coms) fortunately returns more than the lousy 5% (2% inflation adjusted?) interest rate you can expect here in Canada.

OR... You can invest in that junk bond or penny stock -- LLLL.coms, L-L-L.coms, .in/.co.in, .asia, .mobi, etc.


The 1 thing you can be guaranteed --- At least a few of those noobs that invest in LLLL.coms, L-L-L.coms, .in/.co.in, .asia, .mobi, etc are going to own the #$%^ out of the best return you ever got on those LLL.coms.

That's the price you have to pay for pretending you're a domainer when all you're actually doing is investing in things that work -- revenue producing names, LLL.coms, generics.

And if you're not starting off with 5 figures, you're seriously kidding yourself if you ever think you'll get anywhere taking that route.

The best hedge fund managers destroy the best "value investors" year after year in ROI. You simply can't "be the best" by taking no risk.

 

[VirtualT]

oh well, start your own reseller and make some money from all the idiots registering worthless domains