In 2014 over a 1000 new domain extensions will be available.

[buyresaledomains]

What does that do to this biz? Does it make the .com even that much better? Or obsolete? As of now extensions have no bearing on search results. But what happens when a domain is "kendras.daycare". Will it impact Serps then?

 

[accent]

Surely all these extensions can't survive.
So, what happens when a registry collapses? Has it happened before? Does your .xyz just disappear?

AHHHHHh....
I have been asking this question for two years.
I have not received an answer. One high up ICANN guy said they were "working on it".


If there is some worth in the extension Godaddy or someone will pick it up. But if revenues do not exceed expenses and nobody is willing to take it over, as best as I can determine, the purchased domains go poof!

And if you think ICANN will care, just search "registerfly" here on Namepros.


That Ca(via)t should be empt(or)y by now.

 

[replaced]

UPDATED PRICING

Seems much more reasonable. I might get one or more myself just for fun.

.build Order for $99.99/year
.today Order for $29.99/year
.loan Order for $49.99/year
.bike Order for $49.99/year
.bid Order for $49.99/year
.date Order for $49.99/year
.download Order for $49.99/year
.faith Order for $49.99/year
.kitchen Order for $49.99/year
.lighting Order for $29.99/year
.construction Order for $49.99/year
.win Order for $49.99/year
.bid Order for $49.99/year
.camera Order for $49.99/year
.estate Order for $49.99/year
.holdings Order for $79.99/year
.bid Order for $49.99/year
.directory Order for $29.99/year
.technology Order for $29.99/year
.land Order for $49.99/year
.clothing Order for $49.99/year
.photography Order for $29.99/year
.graphics Order for $29.99/year
.directory Order for $29.99/year
.construction Order for $49.99/year
.guru Order for $49.99/year
.accountant Order for $49.99/year
.build Order for $99.99/year
.contractors Order for $49.99/year
.trade Order for $49.99/year
.accountant Order for $49.99/year
.accountant Order for $49.99/year
.equipment Order for $29.99/year
.estate Order for $49.99/year
.faith Order for $49.99/year
.directory Order for $29.99/year
.science Order for $49.99/year
.gallery Order for $29.99/year
.equipment Order for $29.99/year

 

[uzalbert]

It is called - a mess for $49,99
Confusion will, huge profits com...

 

[baseballworld]

Alright more over priced crap for people to get confused with. Just think one day they will make the internet more user friendly and quit trying to complicate things.

 

[mjnels]

Alright more over priced crap for people to get confused with. Just think one day they will make the internet more user friendly and quit trying to complicate things.

the internet is already user friendly. if you want simpler times head back to 1995 when there was nothing on the internet.

the mere existence of "overpriced crap" isnt as confusing as dough mainers want it to be... it exists, either buy it or dont.

 

[HeyNow]

Surely all these extensions can't survive.

So, what happens when a registry collapses? Has it happened before? Does your .xyz just disappear?

If a registry collapsed, my guess is that ICANN would make a deal with another registry to administer that particular TLD. If there weren't enough registrations and renewals to make a profit, guess what? The price per registration and renewal would increase to the point of profitability. Those registrants who branded in that particular TLD would probably not want to re-brand in a different TLD.

A failing TLD would probably get handed to Verisign, since they have such enormous economy of scale. They already administer a handful of TLDs, including .com and .net, so folding another into their infrastructure is not going to require lots of set-up costs as a newly-formed registry would require.

Once a TLD is in the "root," ICANN is not going to let it go bye-bye. Once that happens, businesses that have branded in any TLD will make contingency plans as their trust in the Internet starts the downhill slide.

 

[McDuke]

I can't wait for .lighting to hit the scene what about you guys?

I going for

Very-Very-Very-Very-Bright-Energy-Efficient-LCD-Cheap.lighting

 

[hawkeye]

Alright more over priced crap for people to get confused with. Just think one day they will make the internet more user friendly and quit trying to complicate things.

The only ones complaining and confused on the pricing will be...wait for it.....

Domainers!

The days of buying tons of domains and waiting/hoping someone will come and pay you more than you paid for it, is not to be found in the new gtlds. Though there will be some that will find ways to re-market them, overall they are being geared to be marketed to those that 'want' them, and not to those that 'hoard' them. Sorry, but that is the reality that will be with them. And that is why domainers are so upset and down on the new gtlds, because that's not the way things have been and why they can't/won't see them being successful or needed today/tomorrow. But in 6-8-12+ years from now, it'll be, and they'll be, the norm of choices of domain names. The funny part that won't be seen until then, is how many anti-gtld domainers of today, will be the 'early visioneers' of the new gtlds, tomorrow!!

We don't have to agree or like them (and I don't), but they are coming, and they aren't going to die away! Just.., reality.

 

[McDuke]

I think in turn it will also cost more to get domains from hoarders.

There is no doubt in my mind that certain new extensions will fetch a very good return down the road.

Very-Very-Very-Very-Bright-Energy-Efficient-LCD-Cheap.lighting

 

[mjnels]

I can't wait for .lighting to hit the scene what about you guys?

I going for

Very-Very-Very-Very-Bright-Energy-Efficient-LCD-Cheap.lighting

i know you're being sarcastic.. but really, what is wrong with the existence of a TLD called .lighting ?

is it because its so specific? so "narrow" as domainers like to point out.

cause thats the idea. to be somewhat limited. and have thousands of "limited" (aka specific) options... thousands of "narrow, limited" options translates into UNLIMITED. its pretty easy to understand.

people that think .web is gonna be "one of the good ones" are probably wrong and dont even realize why. dotWEB is outnumbered by an unlimited number of other words that actually have meaning besides the desire to be .NET's 2nd cousins half-sister.

think.of.every.single.dot.com.in.existance..

chicagolighting.com, bestlighting.com, discountlighting.com, antiquelighting.com and on and on..

all those domains have narrow uses. nothing changes, just where the dot is. pick any subject and a small group of "narrow use domains" exist. many domainers want SOOOOO bad for one of these to fail and disappear so they can say SEE ONE BAD APPLE SPOILS THE WHOLE BUNCH. they're waiting for it but it isnt likely to happen that way because as HeyNow pointed out there will be registrars already operating and wont cost them anything to add it to the mix.

also, even if 100 of them go bankrupt do you really think the public follows this crap like us dorks on here? seriously, domainers already preach that the public dont know a lot about domains so why in the HELL are they suddenly going to take an interest of which registries are failing.

they're not gonna care or know.

 

[urlurl]

most likely the good dor whatevers are going to be kept by the owners of the extension.

the obvoious and top names wont be available for registration.

good.lighting
top.lighting
best.lighting
buy.lighting
etc.

so what are you left with

 

[mjnels]

most likely the good dor whatevers are going to be kept by the owners of the extension.

the obvoious and top names wont be available for registration.

good.lighting
top.lighting
best.lighting
buy.lighting
etc.

so what are you left with

when you say they're going to KEEP them - what do you mean?

you think theyre gonna sit on and not offer them to be registered, even for a higher price than regular registrations?

what would be the point of that?

 

[Keith]

you think theyre gonna sit on and not offer them to be registered, even for a higher price than regular registrations?

what would be the point of that?

Not sure what the point is but just look at .mobi, .co, .xxx....still have many names shelved. Must be hoping for big offers that will never come

 

[mjnels]

Not sure what the point is but just look at .mobi, .co, .xxx....still have many names shelved. Must be hoping for big offers that will never come

right, like the majority of .COM domains registered. the really good ones are just sitting there on some dough mainers shelf, never purchased... still waiting.

so whats your point? that after 1000's of gTLD's come out that everyone will ignore them and see .com as the "true king" ? that suddenly because there are cheaper alternatives its gonna cause everyone to run to .COM and pay even higher prices than before?

.COM, as a whole - is done going up in value. exceptions will be had. but the people yelling it will continue to go up in value or "hold its value" are clutching straws with whats about to happen

_\|/_

 

[Kate]

It is a fallacy to think that more extensions will result in more choice of good keywords for consumers.
As said above, we all know that many registries (but not all) keep the best keywords and release them at premium pricing. But many will never sell and will remain unallocated.
So you can see the big contradiction here: many domains will remain unallocated while we are being told that new extensions are introduced as a response to the scarcity of good keywords. People are not dumb and understand it's all about money.
Other people will game the system and apply for TMs in order to get first dibs on the domain they want. Perception that insiders are running the show is a put-off to casual end users.
Result: end users are fed up and move on to something else. Or they stick to the proven things they know work.

I think .com can still go up in value. As long as it is growing (and it is), there will be demand and scarcity of good domains. But I think the growth will be limited, because of the shift toward ccTLDs. On the other hand most of the new extensions will have very little market share and will not benefit domainers (imo). To be honest I don't really care about .xyz or .whatever unless consumers flock to it en masse.

In spite of the doom and gloom I am still making sales on a regular basis, and if new extensions are around the corner and available in the very next few months, then why do end users continue to buy from domainers ? Clearly, they are not all eagerly waiting for the release of .this or .that.

 

[mjnels]

It is a fallacy to think that more extensions will result in more choice of good keywords for consumers.
As said above, we all know that many registries (but not all) keep the best keywords and release them at premium pricing. But many will never sell and will remain unallocated.
So you can see the big contradiction here: many domains will remain unallocated while we are being told that new extensions are introduced as a response to the scarcity of good keywords. People are not dumb and understand it's all about money.
Other people will game the system and apply for TMs in order to get first dibs on the domain they want. Perception that insiders are running the show is a put-off to casual end users.
Result: end users are fed up and move on to something else. Or they stick to the proven things they know work.

I think .com can still go up in value. As long as it is growing (and it is), there will be demand and scarcity of good domains. But I think the growth will be limited, because of the shift toward ccTLDs. On the other hand most of the new extensions will have very little market share and will not benefit domainers (imo). To be honest I don't really care about .xyz or .whatever unless consumers flock to it en masse.

In spite of the doom and gloom I am still making sales on a regular basis, and if new extensions are around the corner and available in the very next few months, then why do end users continue to buy from domainers ? Clearly, they are not all eagerly waiting for the release of .this or .that.

the first paragraph you described sounds like "domaining" to me. holding and waiting for the "right amount." many domainers are mad cause theyre cut out of the equation.

end users have no idea whats about to happen and IF they do we can speculate "why they dont care" but its irrelevant because they're not even out yet and end users are not keeping up on this stuff like dorky domainers. this is a geeky thing to pay attention to. the guy running the candy shop will realize there are a bajillion TLD's in like 5 years just like he discovered the internet itself in 2003 - even though us geeks were on here years before that.

also, even if they DO know about them there arnt very many people that is going to put their entire business on hold for something like new gTLD's - they want the domain today.

 

[urlurl]

when you say they're going to KEEP them - what do you mean?

you think theyre gonna sit on and not offer them to be registered, even for a higher price than regular registrations?

what would be the point of that?

they will sit on them until they get a large offer from a enduser - or they will have a special auction.

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as it is now there are several alternative extensions (tel, biz, info, co, etc.) and choices - people still gravitate to .com - why?

because its known and trusted by the general public.

 

[mjnels]

as it is now there are several alternative extensions (tel, biz, info, co, etc.) and choices - people still gravitate to .com - why?

because its known and trusted by the general public.

those alternative extensions came out 1 at a time.

1,000 coming out at once is going to change things.. people will know they exist. the folks referencing .mobi and .tel are going to feel ridiculous.

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they will sit on them until they get a large offer from a enduser - or they will have a special auction.

that sounds like domaining to me. its the same thing traditional domainers do today.

 

[Keith]

those alternative extensions came out 1 at a time.

1,000 coming out at once is going to change things.. people will know they exist. the folks referencing .mobi and .tel are going to feel ridiculous.

There were over 50 million new websites created in 2012. How many took hold with you? I wonder if you would notice specific websites if only 1 was built each year? I bet you would at least check it out, maybe give it a try! But 50 million all at once...no chance of paying attention to many of those. In this world no attention from users equals doom. This flood of new extensions, well, you'll see...

 

[Kate]

People already know that there are many extensions out there. Even if they only visit nodaddy for their domain needs. They just don't know how many precisely. Now that doesn't mean they will want some oddball extension just because they can have it. It's a lot of supply but what is the demand like ?

I don't think a large-scale survey has ever been made to get input from consumers and possible end users on the TLDs they would like. Now if you ask consumers about the merits of .cpa or .food they will say it sounds like a neat idea in theory, but when you bring the stuff to them in real life they are not really interested in paying for it. That's the difference between theory and reality. Payment at the checkout is where you put your money where your mouth is.

Historically the registries have always made projections that are not realistic at all.
Here is an example I quoted earlier about .pro:
https://www.namepros.com/522420-the-pro-discussion-186.html#post4555581

Most of the other TLDs were way off the mark as well.

Today nothing has changed really, the registries business plans are still based on wishful thinking.