iMonetize

[alojah]

Has Anyone used iMonetize.com? According to their website, you load your domains into their database and they automatically optimize the names to one of the 12 major PPC companies so that you are ensured the highest payouts based on keywords as well as what day of the week it is. Sounds good but what I can't find out is what iMonetize gets out of it. Do they get a cut of the revenue? If so, how much?

Has anyone used their service that can share the experience? Would you recommend it?

 

[homey]

I am a newbie at iMonetize. I have some questions:

Do we get a portion of the revenue from the pop-under ads? If so, can you quantify it in some way? How does it compare to the revenue we get from the landing pages click-thru's?

Also, I just found the "Keyterm Suggestion" function in the menu. It seems a bit unwieldy to use - you must type in the domain names (no simple selection from your list), and ther does note seem to be any way to see what domains you have set keyterm for, nor what they are once you are done.

I can't imagine that you systems would be accurate and effective in "automatically" setting the proper keyterms for some, if not most, domain names. So, having an efficient function for us to set them seems like a worthwhile option. Will that be enhanced in the near future?

NOTE; This is my first post here. So, please excuse me if I violated some rule or it is awkward in some way...Just let me know, and I will do better next time.

Thanks for the questions, yes, you do get paid for the POPUNDER ads, however since each provider gets them to us differently they are all lumped into the main PPC revenue displayed. At this time there is now way to break them out.

The Keyword tool is also going to be upgraded as are alot of other things that we are hoping to PREMIER at DOMAINFEST in JANUARY or TRAFFIC in VEGAS in March.

Hope that helps,

JN

 

[hitchhiker]

homey,

this side deal business is shady . . . (fact of life) but I dont have to agree with it. I like transparency with the company I work with. I hope this is not a common practice

 

[commandercody]

Finishing my second month after the optimization process, getting about 600% less than sedo, but the traffic like he said is dependant more on type-in stuff, where sedo seems to get more search related results(who knows though, no-one really fully understands SE's anyway) I also had a click for 80+ cents, that's incentive enough to hang around for another month. Seems like generic names, with decent type-in traffic would benefit greatly from this service. Plus you really do get to try many different parking services too, ones that would otherwise be inaccessible. Either way, wish me luck i need it.

 

[dotnom]

Either way, wish me luck i need it.

I agree with you, you'll need luck indeed with all these
I just don't get why a rotator is needed

It's common sense that the less time you spend with your investment the less money you'll make

Any type of cut either someone makes a better deal or not it's not the same as when you have the control of your names

"No. Due to variations in advertiser payment habits, certain key-terms will pay more on certain days of the week"
So for example in weekend that people are home the word "sex" pays more than the other days that they're in work, or if the sun is shining they have a good mood and increase their ppc offer ?

In any case if you have good type in traffic all ppc services accept you, you test and go anywhere you want BUT it's not bad to experiment with all the services you find. Some are good some are bad, that's the nature of internet and that's why we LOVE it

 

[guestama]

Does anyone receive payments from the iMonetize?For how many days you receive it?

 

[circa1850]

...am sorry somebody pissed in your cornflakes this morning and...

Typical business protocol and courtesy does not permit one who represents an institution to get into an arguement or shouting match with a customer or potential customer, even if it is in the form of an email, forum, or a chat room environment.

But I don´t understand why you need verification letter when you accept only verified PayPal (as payment option). Those who have verified paypal have already verified their adress or am I wrong?

A very good point

Yes, they verified it with Paypal. But not with us...

Not a very good point. Actually, what is the point? This is the one step PayPal has faulted in? You do not trust PayPal and its secure system that serves millions, perhaps billions, of worldwide registered users on a daily basis? Your institution, as a startup company, does not trust PayPal as a payee and a payor source and think that your company can do a better job at security than a multibillion dollar company named PayPal (aka:ebay)? You're going to take their verification process one step further? I am not defending PayPal's system in regards to security measures but I can not begin to rationalize the thought process behind all of these needless and wasteful measures you are taking. Let alone comprimising and breeching security and identity by having so much personal information in print.

So if we need to get hold of a person that send fraudulent traffic to us...

You need to get hold of a person that sent fraudulent traffic? Okay, you get "hold" of them. What are you going to do? Does not your system you have in place measure sources of traffic? IP addresses? Country of origin?

That is why we do the verification letter also.

So, you think that those that register with PayPal and go through their verification process (which is quite involved and revolves around a person's banking institution, address, and credit issuing bodies) that those people you suspect may have provided "bogas" information to PayPal that, by diggity dang, you're going to catch them by simply sending them a verification letter? Okay, you catch one. Then what?

It is a simple 2x check that most have no issues with.

Let me get this straight; you have folks jump through multiple hoops signing up and verifying and reverifying what is already verified until there doesn't seem to be anymore verification process left. But you are going to send out a letter to verify the verification process?

What business model are you utilizing? How many members have signed up?

What I see is a needless and wastefull act of money spent that should and could easily go to your subscribers. The cost of paper, envelopes, postage, courier expenses, paying employees to do such mundane tasks...need I go on?

As a member of your board, I would want to know why you are needlessly spending money. As a partner in your institution, I would want to know why you are needlessly spending my money. How many people do you have on your payroll that are involved in this verification processess? What are done with those letters upon return? What is done with the confidential information that is in print? Who secures this?

As a consumer, what I am seeing are legitimate questions and concerns.

Is the reason for wanting a additional verification process (ie, sending a letter to a physical address) is the simple fact that PayPal views domain names as intangible property and, therefore, perhaps any monies generated from the the parking of domain names may also be termed as interest made relating to the intangible property? (Seriously, PayPal terms views domain names as intangible property. Ever try to get money back on a domain name that you paid for and never received? Try 19 of them...at once! That can be a whole new thread). And, being that it is intangible property, when you suspect "bogas" traffic you want some recourse to recover funds forwarded seeing that PayPal will be of no benefit in this area of recovery. You can't file charges for recovery very easily on a PO BOX number.

As a business person, I can truly appreciate your standing steadfast with an institution you represent. But you appear to be defending and indefensible position.

 

[Pound]

Typical business protocol and courtesy does not permit one who represents an institution to get into an arguement or shouting match with a customer or potential customer, even if it is in the form of an email, forum, or a chat room environment.


A very good point

Not a very good point. Actually, what is the point? This is the one step PayPal has faulted in? You do not trust PayPal and its secure system that serves millions, perhaps billions, of worldwide registered users on a daily basis? Your institution, as a startup company, does not trust PayPal as a payee and a payor source and think that your company can do a better job at security than a multibillion dollar company named PayPal (aka:ebay)? You're going to take their verification process one step further? I am not defending PayPal's system in regards to security measures but I can not begin to rationalize the thought process behind all of these needless and wasteful measures you are taking. Let alone comprimising and breeching security and identity by having so much personal information in print.

You need to get hold of a person that sent fraudulent traffic? Okay, you get "hold" of them. What are you going to do? Does not your system you have in place measure sources of traffic? IP addresses? Country of origin?

So, you think that those that register with PayPal and go through their verification process (which is quite involved and revolves around a person's banking institution, address, and credit issuing bodies) that those people you suspect may have provided "bogas" information to PayPal that, by diggity dang, you're going to catch them by simply sending them a verification letter? Okay, you catch one. Then what?

Let me get this straight; you have folks jump through multiple hoops signing up and verifying and reverifying what is already verified until there doesn't seem to be anymore verification process left. But you are going to send out a letter to verify the verification process?

What business model are you utilizing? How many members have signed up?

What I see is a needless and wastefull act of money spent that should and could easily go to your subscribers. The cost of paper, envelopes, postage, courier expenses, paying employees to do such mundane tasks...need I go on?

As a member of your board, I would want to know why you are needlessly spending money. As a partner in your institution, I would want to know why you are needlessly spending my money. How many people do you have on your payroll that are involved in this verification processess? What are done with those letters upon return? What is done with the confidential information that is in print? Who secures this?

As a consumer, what I am seeing are legitimate questions and concerns.

Is the reason for wanting a additional verification process (ie, sending a letter to a physical address) is the simple fact that PayPal views domain names as intangible property and, therefore, perhaps any monies generated from the the parking of domain names may also be termed as interest made relating to the intangible property? (Seriously, PayPal terms views domain names as intangible property. Ever try to get money back on a domain name that you paid for and never received? Try 19 of them...at once! That can be a whole new thread). And, being that it is intangible property, when you suspect "bogas" traffic you want some recourse to recover funds forwarded seeing that PayPal will be of no benefit in this area of recovery. You can't file charges for recovery very easily on a PO BOX number.

As a business person, I can truly appreciate your standing steadfast with an institution you represent. But you appear to be defending and indefensible position.

A very good post - rep added.

To be honest, I was very tempted to sign up with iMonetize, however, all of these factors, including homey's attitude towards his customers, have put me off the idea entirely.

 

[dotnom]

circa1850 you hit the bone. Nice comments.

All these failsafes prove nothing. If someone wants to get in their system he will
The principle they have is that it's too much hassle to deal with all these that a non legitimate user will not try. That's a logical but also a stupid tactic to re-assure your bullet proof system

Afterall they are just a domain stats and rotating service

 

[circa1850]

A very good post - rep added.

To be honest, I was very tempted to sign up with iMonetize, however, all of these factors, including homey's attitude towards his customers, have put me off the idea entirely.

Wow, so was I . Very disappointed. I thought it was great in concept, not too convinced on the practice and implementation...after all what could they do that others were not doing.

The very idea of entertaining putting domains with them caught my attention to the post to begin with.

So, to all who have raised issues and concerns only to have those valid concerns and issues swept aside by Homey's needless points and raves, I say BRAVO!

I think you saved me the time and hassle of signing up.

Imagine if Homey was your rep and you questioned your balance? Yikes!

 

[matt_bodis]

I received my check for October, yesterday.

I will be cashing it this week. My overall experience and earnings with iMonetize have been average.

 

[pepo]

Still waiting for October check but I live in Europe so maybe next week.

 

[Mike]

i understand security and IRS precautions. However, i don't believe that iMonetize can compare themselves with eBay/PayPal.
If an interested party is already verified through PayPal, why would you want to run the same process again?
PayPal offers bidirectional fraud protection, which is as good for your company as it is for everyone else using the system. So, unless your company is a bit paranoid, the reason for additional verification, over top of the already executed PayPal verification, eludes me.
As many other NPers already stated, what i can't see in black and white - i don't trust.
Remedy: Maybe explain in detail why you are questioning an approved system like PayPal, or revise your policy, 'cause we're all looking for more cash from parking but less "shades of grey"
*just my 2 cents*

 

[circa1850]

Without going back and reading every single post, you mean to tell me they are mailing checks out? Physical checks?

Even though they want you to verify your PayPal information, they do not pay electronically?

Who is captaining this boat? Pull over and let me off! What a waste of resources.

 

[pepo]

You can choose payment method, I don't have verified PayPal account and they send money only to verified PayPal so I had to request money by check or wire transfer(1000$+ only).

 

[circa1850]

Cruios enough...

I decided to visit the web site and check it out for myself.

I found a few things odd(er).

Q: Do you have phone support?
A: Yes. You may call between 10AM and 6PM EST and we will do our best to assist you with any of our services.

No where on the site is a phone number listed. No where. If you go to CONTACT US, the only option (actually, there are no options) is to send an email message. Did that. All I got was Message successfully sent!. Right back where we started...same no option CONTACT US page.

I am not at all opposed to new start ups and I am not at all opposed to making money.

But after all the legitimate questions, concerns, issues, privacy matters and wasteful spending and the responses received, read and viewed...who are these people and how long will they be around. And the responses, double talk, and wishy-washy validation of policies from an iMonetize rep, Homey?

Privacy issues? If they are not capable of detecting "fraudsters" with software and programming, are they even capable of securing your private data?

Naw...I'll stick to sedo and a couple of others that are tried and true.

This can only lead to the next obvious question...

Whats up, Homey? Where'd ya' go?

 

[homey]

I decided to visit the web site and check it out for myself.

I found a few things odd(er).

Q: Do you have phone support?
A: Yes. You may call between 10AM and 6PM EST and we will do our best to assist you with any of our services.

No where on the site is a phone number listed. No where. If you go to CONTACT US, the only option (actually, there are no options) is to send an email message. Did that. All I got was Message successfully sent!. Right back where we started...same no option CONTACT US page.

I am not at all opposed to new start ups and I am not at all opposed to making money.

But after all the legitimate questions, concerns, issues, privacy matters and wasteful spending and the responses received, read and viewed...who are these people and how long will they be around. And the responses, double talk, and wishy-washy validation of policies from an iMonetize rep, Homey?

Privacy issues? If they are not capable of detecting "fraudsters" with software and programming, are they even capable of securing your private data?

Naw...I'll stick to sedo and a couple of others that are tried and true.

This can only lead to the next obvious question...

Whats up, Homey? Where'd ya' go?

I am right here and will answer any legitimate questions posed that haven't already been answered. Thanks for the heads up on us not posting the phone number on the non-member contact us. That will be rectified by the end of the day. But it is listed on the contact us once you sign up.

PPC Fraud is a problem in this industry for ALL of us. It hurts everyone. I am sorry if some of our policies offend some of the NP's users. And I assure you we are looking into all your concerns. However for the time being all we ask from our users is the following:

1: Real Contact info. (Name Address Telephone number) This is verified by sending you a simple letter.
2: Tax Information (Required by the IRS to cover our butt's) OR A simple letter stating you live outside the country.

I do not see why this is such an issue. However, If any of you have any suggestions as to how to make this easier while maintaining our level of security I am willing to listen and discuss it with our Board of Directors.

Without going back and reading every single post, you mean to tell me they are mailing checks out? Physical checks?

You can choose Check, Wire, or Paypal.

Thanks for your question;

JN

Still waiting for October check but I live in Europe so maybe next week.

All payments went out on the 10th. You should see it shortly... If not please PM me and I will look into it for you.

JN

 

[movingconcierge]

This reads like a trial by fire...ouch. This guy is just filling a niche and trying to do the right thing. Fight fire with fire here. That's my suggestion.

Maybe those who don't want to sign on the dotted line are 18 and under as we have quite a few gifted kids here. It's acutally humbling to an lame old dude like me

Nice idea, Homey. I hope you pass the acid test and do well.

 

[homey]

This reads like a trial by fire...ouch. This guy is just filling a niche and trying to do the right thing. Fight fire with fire here. That's my suggestion.

Maybe those who don't want to sign on the dotted line are 18 and under as we have quite a few gifted kids here. It's acutally humbling to an lame old dude like me

Nice idea, Homey. I hope you pass the acid test and do well.

VERY much appreciated!

JN

 

[getaddicted]

Hi, While I am new to this forum, I have been on DNF for quite a while and look forward to being an active participant here. I saw this thread on imonetize and I must say I am SHOCKED. I have been dealing with them for 3 months now and while it was a bit different to receive a verification letter from a PPC provider, I understand why they do it with all the Fraud out there. And if you are true with all your details then why cant you help them verify you.. the pin takes around a 7 to 10 days to recieve.As for the rest of the service HOMEY has always been very responsive to any questions I have had, and the rest of there support has been SPOT ON.

I can also say my revenue has gone WAY up using them and I would highly recommend them to anyone viewing this thread. They have always PAID ON TIME and have had 0 issues with them. I got payment 2 days back for the 3 successive month..

Again GLAD to be here and look forward to being an active participant from this point on!

 

[zoot]

Just reading the post here and seeing lots of unfounded accusations, conspiracy theories and as what another said what seems to be ire from those that don't want to give the required info out that ANY legitmate PPC company is going to ask for or might be minors and not be able to give it.

I've known the Imonetize guys personally and business related for years. Never has Jerry or anyone else in there been anything less than outstanding in their character and intent with business to make me question their character.

As most know iMonetize isn't the oldest company around and as any new company with have to adjust, learn as it grows. Which Jerry and crew make every effort to do inregards to anything I've ever requested or known was requested. Do things happen instantly? Hell no. But what company do things happen instantly?

Bottomline for me is Imonetize is run by trust worthy guys, I have always been paid when I was told to expect it and for the names that I use here they have out performed any others I've tried.

So all I can add is give the guys a chance, no one is hiding from you or trying to cheat you. And if you can't get past whatever issues you're having ... do what you would do with any PPC company that didn't work for you. Switch. I'm sure there will be no hard feelings. But give them a chance before publically slamming them.

Anyhow. Just my 2 ¢

zoot