I lost $5805usd through PayPal scam by Shane Bellone

[12no3]

Many of my friend suggested me to post this on namepros so others will less likely to be scamed by shane.

So on 2016-09-26 and 2016-09-27 he bought 374 cvcv.in names and 471 cvcv.in names all together 845 .in names together. (these are random cvcv.in)
together he paid me on paypal 5805 usd.

I pushed the domain to him, then everything is fine. the deal was made through whatsapp chat.
deal closed.
then I saw him selling them on .in markect group, flipped some for higher price.

until 27the decenmber when i log in to my paypal to make another purchase, i see paypal refunded 5805 back to him, then i look up my email, i saw paypal disput which i completed missed.
buyer claim reason: NOT AS DESCRIBED! (this is after he sold and transfer out some of those)

I did not know paypal had this 3 months rules where buyer can claim the money back, and becuase i do not log on paypal so often and get xxx amount of emails every days, so i missed the window that i could have argued with paypal. but well lesson learned.

Some infomation of shane so other can avoid being scamed by him
http://this_username_was_banned.com/
http://www.domainsherpa.com/shane-bellone-itmagazine-interview/
http://tldinvestors.com/2016/05/shane-bellone-saying-goodbye-to-domaining.html
http://omarandwill.com/interview-with-the-expert-volume-2-featuring-shane-bellone/
https://www.facebook.com/app_scoped_user_id/10154332611129273
https://www.linkedin.com/in/this_username_was_banned
https://twitter.com/this_username_was_banned


good news is after I provided all the evidence to the registrar, the registrar moved the remaining (ones he did not sold or transfer out) to my account, so at least i got something back.

Becuareful when using paypal,and becuareful when you trade any domain that was processed by shane.

During the process of getting the unsold domains by shane, I had great help from .in whatsapp group, so special thx who provide information and also special thx to shiva , kemji, alexa and indy who tried to contact shane for me, but he went dark, not picking his cell phone, does not respond back on whatsapp nor linkedin.

 

[Internet.Domains]

Well if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck it's normally a duck. But I'll wait for more facts, that is if he can, or will reply..

 

[skyz21]

Such a shame!

 

[12no3]

maxe.in
gexa.in
hoxe.in
covu.in
huja.in
cuve.in
huwe.in
dewe.in
havu.in
jemu.in
faqe.in
howa.in
nowa.in
kiwa.in
jese.in
jahe.in
jale.in
jate.in
pove.in
mejo.in
rewe.in
haje.in
havo.in
kawe.in
laje.in
lawe.in
faje.in
tove.in
kiwe.in
goje.in
hove.in
koje.in
kove.in
feje.in
feve.in
peva.in
hijo.in
huke.in
kubo.in
cuma.in
dusa.in
miwa.in

 

[12no3]

maxe.in
gexa.in
hoxe.in
covu.in
huja.in
cuve.in
huwe.in
dewe.in
havu.in
jemu.in
faqe.in
howa.in
nowa.in
kiwa.in
jese.in
jahe.in
jale.in
jate.in
pove.in
mejo.in
rewe.in
haje.in
havo.in
kawe.in
laje.in
lawe.in
faje.in
tove.in
kiwe.in
goje.in
hove.in
koje.in
kove.in
feje.in
feve.in
peva.in
hijo.in
huke.in
kubo.in
cuma.in
dusa.in
miwa.in

Perhaps list the 42 domains he transferred out in case people get offered them in a deal...

 

[12no3]

himself transfered out these domains i posted, and now on his friends blog, he claim he can not transfer out domains i sold to him, well, if that was the truth, how he manage those 42 transfer out? magic?

also, the registrar allow any transfer, and even he had difficulty on transfering out, he could asked for help. I see him an old domainer, not a new domainer, so he should not have any issue with transferring out.

 

[12no3]

if he believe he is right, he think he is legit, why all the hiding? and not responding to me on whatsapp and other people for 20+ days?

 

[Messiah]

This claim by him is funny....

"I would have liked to contact you directly but I didn't have your contact information."

Well..yeah..right...

 

[Jv1999]

I'll side with the giraffe, since shane has been banned on NP, and well that shows fault, imho.

 

[anantj]

"I would have liked to contact you directly but I didn't have your contact information."

Where's this claim?

 

[domainwest]

Why do people still use PayPal. They've been scamming for years - it took me 3 years to get them off my back because they can't/don't bother to verify accounts properly. Their 6 months confirmation time for payments, and their support for scammers would put me off using them. I won't use Escrow any more now that they support PreyPal. There are loads of payment services out there. If you use PP and lose your money, then you've only got yourself to blame, there are enough warning about them all over the net.

so which payment service do you use for smaller amounts?

 

[LucidDomains]

Is David Walker a member here still?

 

[creataweb]

Is David Walker a member here still?

Yes, he's N-A I believe.

 

[mad409]

So per Davids blog, transaction canceled and all domains returned none sold.

Dispute filed because domains could not be transferred out, no reply from the OP.

Who is this register that can't transfer out a domain at all?

Shane had a pro rating here at NP, did he not check this out?

I don't see how a register can't transfer out a domain to another register that supports .in, confused now.

 

[12no3]

Something is not jiving here...First the domains were not transferred because they were not supported. "The portfolio in question was registered at a registrar in which the ccTLD .in transfers were not supported. When this was realized by Shane, it ultimately rendered the domains useless to him for obvious reasons."....................And then, "While the seller claims the registrar returned the domains due to his proof, the fact remains that the transfer was authorized by Shane himself."..............Certainly we need more details and clarification with this situation.

1: himself transfered 42 out plus sold more than that to different members. and I gurantee there is no transfer out problem at all.
2: I contacted the registrar and submited the proof,secured those are still not transfered away.
it is NOT authorized by shane himself, and his account is suspended on this registrar (told by staff there).

 

[CraigAK]

1: himself transfered 42 out plus sold more than that to different members. and I gurantee there is no transfer out problem at all.
2: I contacted the registrar and submited the proof,secured those are still not transfered away.
it is NOT authorized by shane himself, and his account is suspended on this registrar (told by staff there).

Which registrar?

 

[12no3]

So per Davids blog, transaction canceled and all domains returned none sold.

Dispute filed because domains could not be transferred out, no reply from the OP.

Who is this register that can't transfer out a domain at all?

Shane had a pro rating here at NP, did he not check this out?

I don't see how a register can't transfer out a domain to another register that supports .in, confused now.

himself transfered out 42 domains already plus many more been sold but not transfered out. regisrar is west.xyz (top1 registrar for newg, have no problem transfering out)

shiva and many .in domainers also transfered domains out from there.

the thing is how he manage to transfer 42 out if he claim he cant transfer out.

 

[12no3]

Which registrar?

West.xyz (they manage tons of domains and have no trouble transfering .in or anything out)

I did not mention the registrar coz i do not want people think I am promoting them, becuase I own registrar my self too.

 

[Internet.Domains]

himself transfered out 42 domains already plus many more been sold but not transfered out. regisrar is west.xyz (top1 registrar for newg, have no problem transfering out)

shiva and many .in domainers also transfered domains out from there.

the thing is how he manage to transfer 42 out if he claim he cant transfer out.

I am still not passing judgement. At the same time I don't understand how a transfer is not supported, rendering the domains useless. Yet, Shane "approved" a transfer back to the OP?......Doesn't that mean that at some point Shane had control?

 

[12no3]

I am still not passing judgement. At the same time I don't understand how a transfer is not supported, rendering the domains useless. Yet, Shane "approved" a transfer back to the OP?......Doesn't that mean that at some point Shane had control?

transfer is supported, criminal shanes is lying on everyone face

 

[alcy]

West.xyz (they manage tons of domains and have no trouble transfering .in or anything out)

I did not mention the registrar coz i do not want people think I am promoting them, becuase I own registrar my self too.

oh I see.. so this is why u were able to recover domains..

no one recovers doamins from any registrar otherwise, just cause they show proof paypal took their sale money away from them.