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Amidst the hype,the premiums,the bs and the trolls, you still need to have a gameplan and know who you are and where you want to go with your .tv portfolio.
There is no need for hype, .tv is not new, not the only extension you can make videocentric or place videos on. Buying .tv to sell is not a get rich quick scheme. What it is, is one of the fastest growing extensions being used worldwide on every continent except maybe Antarctica. TV is probably the most recognized two letter phrase regardless of language. Someone in China knows what TV is as well as Russia as well as Sweden etc...
Everything does not need a video about it or will have a big enough audience or be able to be monetized. No one needs a 24 hours Internet TV station on Assholes or twizzel sticks. Pick your niche carefully, make sure there is a market for it, advertisers, and an audience especially.
The adult market holds promise but do not lie to yourself here, you either should be going after end users to sell your quality adult name or if you are going to develop you probably need to create your own content (becoming a pornographer) to stand out. There are 100's of thousands of free sites to see porn. So to standout and make big money you need to have fresh content. You will be competing against people who do this everyday and have experience in the business. You also need to know record keeping for UStitle18 section 2257 is no joke and not to be taken lightly, God help you if you have an underage minor on your site, if you go down the Adult road make sure you have Legal representation. If you just do affiliate programs make sure you check them out thoroughly as you can get in trouble if they are not in compliance with US18 Section 2257.
Premiums are here and they are not going away, Verisign owns the .tv company and TUVALU supports the premium pricing they actually want more. So the talk of whether it is bs or stupid or holding back the extension or Verisign is ripping off TUVALU is just mental masturbation. Tuvalu has bigger problems and it was not caused by premium pricing take a look at your SUV that has probably contributed to TUVALU's problem and if you do not believe in global warming then I guess you can skip over these lines. Either which way premium pricing is here and maybe altered but I do not think you will see top generic or geo or short domains going to change to $20 registration anytime soon. Remember Verisign believes in .tv just like you and you want the max for your names, no one here selling a geo for $100 because x,xxx or xx,xxx pricing is bs or a rip off. Well Verisign liked .tv so much they bought the whole company and started leasing you their names. So if you want $1,000,000 for Vegas.tv they want a piece too.
Premium pricing is also just semantics, I wanted SD.tv and Verisign was willing to lease it to me for $1000 it was their property. .tv is not a public service or a non profit entity. They sold me the lease rights to SD.tv for $1000 a year better known as premium pricing. Now if I went to the owner of SD.com someone who has the same exact rights as Verisign only he controls SD.com he is going to offer me SD.com for a min of $300,000 ? That seems like premium pricing to me I mean .com only cost $7 to reg and this person wants $300,000. Now I know he had the foresight, the genius to register the .com. OK well Verisign had the foresight in 2002 to buy the whole .tv corp. It is either all good business or all bullshit but no different IMO you choose which. Lastly if there was not premium pricing the majority of the people here would have few great names as they would have been registered in 2002-2003.
Now .tv can also be seen as the haves and the have nots. This may set the stage for each persons agenda when it comes to regging, appraising, buying in the aftermarket and debating the extension.
There are some that will say go with the top quality generic domain, geo or top 200 keywords. They do not care about premium pricing they believe they are paying up for quality. These people usually see typos, alternative keyword strategies as second rate or worthless. They do not understand tv.tv or tvxx.tv or *******Channel.tv
Then there are those that do not have the budget for the top domains so they focus on either the good hand regs that are better than the bad premium domains, or they go with Freetv.tv or TVHollywood.tv.
There are those who only focus on end users they could care less what domainers think, they see most domainers as cheap only wanting to buy their $10,000 domain for $1000. This is a longer process with less sales but much bigger returns and where the big money is if they got the right name for the right buyer.
Now I think you need to decide who you are. Are you championing Turnheretravel.tv if you are in the reg quality .tv even at a premium camp?
This is not a good name as far as domains go. The biggest lie ever told is telling someone oh that domain is worth reg fee but developed xxx. NO NO NO Someone is asking the value of the DOMAIN. Once you devleop it the value is based on the underlying revenue of the site. DOTTVNATION.tv sucks as a domain, it served its naming purpose because that is what I have named the community here, borrowing from RED SOX NATION and other sports teams using their NAME and NATION. The value in DOTTVNATION.tv is the content and the revenue it produces. The name is not worth more the name is still worth reg fee.
Jacksonville.tv has value without being developed, Bands.tv has value without being developed, Auto.tv has value without being developed. ChabbaChabba.tv has no value as a domain.
So I see a dilemma for both camps, the Premium quality owners have to look at the fact that there are plenty of unregged .tv that a new upstart could go with instead of buying your TOP quality premium domain. You own Porn.tv and want $500,000 and a new Amsterdam based adult entertainment company decides to go with SEXEE.tv No it is not as good as Porn.tv not even close but they now have an extra $500,000 to market it and they know how to market so they are not worried they will brand SEXEE.tv and it will be great for them. Or someone like Benzdorf created what IMO is a cool made up domain for a search engine OLLO.tv a palindrome domain for $25 what would it cost in .com $5000? $10,000? He did not look to buy Search.tv or SearchEngine.tv or go alternative with Searchtv.tv, He created a cool, easy to remember domain. So there are still so many unregged LL,LLL,LLLL,LLLLL.tv that a new company has a lot of choices to avoid buying a premium for big money. Now maybe if someone only wanted $50,000 for Porn.tv the Amsterdam company would see the value proposition differently.
Now the upside for this camp is they get the well funded company with the same vision of generic superiority and a quality domain.
Now the other camp has a dilemma of being screwed by their own ideology that someone likes their brand but not for$3000 what the heck it is a made up name I liked your chubba.tvbut not for $3000 so I reg unnu.tv or ommo.tv
for $25 I mean if you can make up names so can I. Or you got three keyword .tv that sounds good Hotsexygirls.tv $5000 Nice name but for $25 I will reg SexyHotGirls.tv. So I think the big sale can be harder.
Now let me state that was just a thought exercise I believe both camps can be successful I just think it is good for people to think about a lot of the variables,complexities and overall value proposition.
To the notion of .com bloggers writing CBS buying tv.com could be the end for .tv is borderline insanity, if not for promoting ones .com agenda.
And to those who are just looking out for their fellow man, this forum has always been about educating people, it was started not to hype or for people to buy .tv. It was for like minded people who wanted to talk about .tv and had no place to do that. I have never once told anyone to reg a .tv not in 5000 posts. I have told people to focus, less is more, and find their niche. So where I have criticized Verisign more than anyone, brought things to light now that most if not all in some instances did not even know about. Difference being it is not just to criticize and promote a .com agenda.
Bottom line .tv does not need you and you do not need .tv, it is a choice. As long as their is the current domain system their will be .tv just like all the other extensions. TV will continue to be universally recognized.
For my wrestling fan Mindwrecker "whether you like it or you don't like it, sit back and love it,because its the best thing going today." Ric Flair.
That last part was tongue and cheek before the trolls call it hype.
Lastly remember "Domaining is alot like proctology,you are surrounded by assholes on a daily basis"copyright equity78
There is no need for hype, .tv is not new, not the only extension you can make videocentric or place videos on. Buying .tv to sell is not a get rich quick scheme. What it is, is one of the fastest growing extensions being used worldwide on every continent except maybe Antarctica. TV is probably the most recognized two letter phrase regardless of language. Someone in China knows what TV is as well as Russia as well as Sweden etc...
Everything does not need a video about it or will have a big enough audience or be able to be monetized. No one needs a 24 hours Internet TV station on Assholes or twizzel sticks. Pick your niche carefully, make sure there is a market for it, advertisers, and an audience especially.
The adult market holds promise but do not lie to yourself here, you either should be going after end users to sell your quality adult name or if you are going to develop you probably need to create your own content (becoming a pornographer) to stand out. There are 100's of thousands of free sites to see porn. So to standout and make big money you need to have fresh content. You will be competing against people who do this everyday and have experience in the business. You also need to know record keeping for UStitle18 section 2257 is no joke and not to be taken lightly, God help you if you have an underage minor on your site, if you go down the Adult road make sure you have Legal representation. If you just do affiliate programs make sure you check them out thoroughly as you can get in trouble if they are not in compliance with US18 Section 2257.
Premiums are here and they are not going away, Verisign owns the .tv company and TUVALU supports the premium pricing they actually want more. So the talk of whether it is bs or stupid or holding back the extension or Verisign is ripping off TUVALU is just mental masturbation. Tuvalu has bigger problems and it was not caused by premium pricing take a look at your SUV that has probably contributed to TUVALU's problem and if you do not believe in global warming then I guess you can skip over these lines. Either which way premium pricing is here and maybe altered but I do not think you will see top generic or geo or short domains going to change to $20 registration anytime soon. Remember Verisign believes in .tv just like you and you want the max for your names, no one here selling a geo for $100 because x,xxx or xx,xxx pricing is bs or a rip off. Well Verisign liked .tv so much they bought the whole company and started leasing you their names. So if you want $1,000,000 for Vegas.tv they want a piece too.
Premium pricing is also just semantics, I wanted SD.tv and Verisign was willing to lease it to me for $1000 it was their property. .tv is not a public service or a non profit entity. They sold me the lease rights to SD.tv for $1000 a year better known as premium pricing. Now if I went to the owner of SD.com someone who has the same exact rights as Verisign only he controls SD.com he is going to offer me SD.com for a min of $300,000 ? That seems like premium pricing to me I mean .com only cost $7 to reg and this person wants $300,000. Now I know he had the foresight, the genius to register the .com. OK well Verisign had the foresight in 2002 to buy the whole .tv corp. It is either all good business or all bullshit but no different IMO you choose which. Lastly if there was not premium pricing the majority of the people here would have few great names as they would have been registered in 2002-2003.
Now .tv can also be seen as the haves and the have nots. This may set the stage for each persons agenda when it comes to regging, appraising, buying in the aftermarket and debating the extension.
There are some that will say go with the top quality generic domain, geo or top 200 keywords. They do not care about premium pricing they believe they are paying up for quality. These people usually see typos, alternative keyword strategies as second rate or worthless. They do not understand tv.tv or tvxx.tv or *******Channel.tv
Then there are those that do not have the budget for the top domains so they focus on either the good hand regs that are better than the bad premium domains, or they go with Freetv.tv or TVHollywood.tv.
There are those who only focus on end users they could care less what domainers think, they see most domainers as cheap only wanting to buy their $10,000 domain for $1000. This is a longer process with less sales but much bigger returns and where the big money is if they got the right name for the right buyer.
Now I think you need to decide who you are. Are you championing Turnheretravel.tv if you are in the reg quality .tv even at a premium camp?
This is not a good name as far as domains go. The biggest lie ever told is telling someone oh that domain is worth reg fee but developed xxx. NO NO NO Someone is asking the value of the DOMAIN. Once you devleop it the value is based on the underlying revenue of the site. DOTTVNATION.tv sucks as a domain, it served its naming purpose because that is what I have named the community here, borrowing from RED SOX NATION and other sports teams using their NAME and NATION. The value in DOTTVNATION.tv is the content and the revenue it produces. The name is not worth more the name is still worth reg fee.
Jacksonville.tv has value without being developed, Bands.tv has value without being developed, Auto.tv has value without being developed. ChabbaChabba.tv has no value as a domain.
So I see a dilemma for both camps, the Premium quality owners have to look at the fact that there are plenty of unregged .tv that a new upstart could go with instead of buying your TOP quality premium domain. You own Porn.tv and want $500,000 and a new Amsterdam based adult entertainment company decides to go with SEXEE.tv No it is not as good as Porn.tv not even close but they now have an extra $500,000 to market it and they know how to market so they are not worried they will brand SEXEE.tv and it will be great for them. Or someone like Benzdorf created what IMO is a cool made up domain for a search engine OLLO.tv a palindrome domain for $25 what would it cost in .com $5000? $10,000? He did not look to buy Search.tv or SearchEngine.tv or go alternative with Searchtv.tv, He created a cool, easy to remember domain. So there are still so many unregged LL,LLL,LLLL,LLLLL.tv that a new company has a lot of choices to avoid buying a premium for big money. Now maybe if someone only wanted $50,000 for Porn.tv the Amsterdam company would see the value proposition differently.
Now the upside for this camp is they get the well funded company with the same vision of generic superiority and a quality domain.
Now the other camp has a dilemma of being screwed by their own ideology that someone likes their brand but not for$3000 what the heck it is a made up name I liked your chubba.tvbut not for $3000 so I reg unnu.tv or ommo.tv
for $25 I mean if you can make up names so can I. Or you got three keyword .tv that sounds good Hotsexygirls.tv $5000 Nice name but for $25 I will reg SexyHotGirls.tv. So I think the big sale can be harder.
Now let me state that was just a thought exercise I believe both camps can be successful I just think it is good for people to think about a lot of the variables,complexities and overall value proposition.
To the notion of .com bloggers writing CBS buying tv.com could be the end for .tv is borderline insanity, if not for promoting ones .com agenda.
And to those who are just looking out for their fellow man, this forum has always been about educating people, it was started not to hype or for people to buy .tv. It was for like minded people who wanted to talk about .tv and had no place to do that. I have never once told anyone to reg a .tv not in 5000 posts. I have told people to focus, less is more, and find their niche. So where I have criticized Verisign more than anyone, brought things to light now that most if not all in some instances did not even know about. Difference being it is not just to criticize and promote a .com agenda.
Bottom line .tv does not need you and you do not need .tv, it is a choice. As long as their is the current domain system their will be .tv just like all the other extensions. TV will continue to be universally recognized.
For my wrestling fan Mindwrecker "whether you like it or you don't like it, sit back and love it,because its the best thing going today." Ric Flair.
That last part was tongue and cheek before the trolls call it hype.
Lastly remember "Domaining is alot like proctology,you are surrounded by assholes on a daily basis"copyright equity78
