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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...tch-above-greece/story-e6frg90o-1226043633361

โ€“ Capitol Hill has been consumed with political wrangling over whether to increase a $US14.3 trillion ($13.3 trillion) debt ceiling that is due to be breached next month.

If the US national debt hits that level, it would trigger a default.

Deutsche Bank's analysis acknowledged that the risk attached by financial markets to US debt remained very low, as demonstrated by the country's modest borrowing rates. That was in part due to the US dollar remaining the premier reserve currency for world governments.

However, the report noted: "Reputation and reserve currency status can be lost, and failure to move US fiscal policy off its currently unsustainable path would certainly increase the risk."


McDonalds Hires 62,000, Turns Away Over 938,000 Applicants For Minimum Wage, Part-Time Jobs

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/mc...938000-applicants-minimum-wage-part-time-jobs

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...3TZL0w?docId=4d28a118fd5146c190bbef2e2c4b9ab3


The government now borrows about 42 cents of every dollar it spends. Imagine that one day soon, the borrowing slams up against the current debt limit ceiling of $14.3 trillion and Congress fails to raise it. The damage would ripple across the entire economy, eventually affecting nearly every American, and rocking global markets in the process.

China and other countries that now hold about 50 percent of all U.S. Treasury securities could start dumping them, further pushing up interest rates and swelling the national debt. It would be a vicious cycle of higher and higher interest rates and more and more debt.
 
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Oh what a lot we have to thank Bush and the Republicans for.
 
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well, they have to come up with a plan to devalue Chinese hold of that 50 percent of Treasury Security. In that case i will not wonder if they force the inflation.
 
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The outcome of all this will be, as usual, war.
 
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well, they have to come up with a plan to devalue Chinese hold of that 50 percent of Treasury Security. In that case i will not wonder if they force the inflation.

Silver went from $10 to $49.90/ounce.

Inflation is alright high...I'm sure Americans see it at the pump when they need to get gas.

But what I expect if they do not fix this A.S.A.P. is not really a nice scenario. The past GFC will look like a walk in the park.



What happens if Congress blows the debt ceiling?


http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/29/news/economy/debt_ceiling/index.htm?iid=HLM

Either way, he would be put in the completely ridiculous position of having to prioritize who besides bondholders should get paid first and which federal contractors and programs would be effectively issued I.O.U.s payable when Congress comes to its senses and raises the debt ceiling.

That could mean deferring payments to Social Security beneficiaries, Medicare doctors, weapons vendors or taxpayers expecting refunds.

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:rolleyes:

---------- Post added at 03:15 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:43 AM ----------

Let me explain this with some pictures.

This IS inflation:

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while this WAS hyperinflation, after WW2 in Berlin:


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and here some additional recent information:


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"The key dynamic is the linkage of the renminbi (yuan) and the U.S. dollar. When the dollar tanks, oil rises when priced in dollars--and thus it also rises when priced in yuan. Thus the decline of the dollar and the consequent rise in commodities has directly fueled inflation in China, which is more dependent on a per capita basis on materials than the U.S.

Yes, the yuan peg has declined from the 8.5 range down to 6.5 to the USD, but it is still firmly pegged. As the cost of materials priced in dollars soars, it feeds higher input costs in China.

China's policy-makers have exacerbated inflation by excessive money creation and lending by their own banks, but that alone is not sufficient cause for gasoline/petrol to cost as much in China as it does in the U.S. Oil is the foundation for petrochemicals, fertilizers, transport, plastics, etc., so the rise of oil driven by dollar depreciation is a driver of inflation throughout the Chinese economy.

No wonder the Chinese leadership is unhappy with the Fed's crush-the-dollar strategy.

Though the cost of soy beans imported from the U.S. remains fixed in terms of currency, the relentless rise in oil is also raising the cost of China's imports which are heavily dependent on oil, such as soy beans from the U.S."

The problems in my humble opinion, started in 1971 when the US changed the way things worked till then, backing the country wealth with gold. Since 1971, it does not happen anymore:

http://money.howstuffworks.com/currency7.htm

A recipe for a disaster.

And as we deal a lot with US domainers and US currency, this is a big problem.

In other financial and travel forums I read more and more Americans have started buying silver, gold, platinum, Euros, Australian dollars and foreign property in a strategy to hedge the USD collapse. You can just google for more info. It's not a surprise to see the AU$ at a new record nearly each day since it was floated many years ago. Same for gold and silver....but some experts warn that this is just the tip of the iceberg if things keep going this way.....meanwhile Wall Street is living on its own world with already new IPOs that look like we are well in the middle of the bubble cycle. The Chinese version of Facebook Renren is about to hit the market with a ridiculous (that's my opinion as an expert financial adviser) price-to-revenue ratio of 52 and a price-to-operating profit ratio of 519. (For comparison, Google's price-to-revenue ratio has been hovering around 5.5-6.5 for most of the last year and its market-cap-to-operating-profit-ratio using data for 2010 is 15.6.)

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/04/20/how-renrens-ipo-is-setting-the-table-for-facebook/

In my opinion, the whole toy is broken and they are just delaying a solution. The more they wait, the worse it will be for everyone.
 
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the problem started when Bill Clinton took sanctions against China out ..remember this?: "Let's trade with that power house... it can't hurt us"...
 
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Well... the financial trickery that created the Euro is quickly becoming an issue. A further collapsing USD doesn't do anything but hurt the Euro. Try unwinding 20 years of fiscal shenanigans in Europe and you'd be wise to start questioning policies closer to home.
 
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I don't think the USA will default nor have hyperinflation; I think that's a tad hyperbolic.

Having said that, I think that with a failing Eurozone and debt crises in America and Europe, there will be tough times ahead.

It certainly won't be a standard post-recession recovery, that's for sure.
 
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The outcome of all this will be, as usual, war.

We're already there and have been for some time.
It's called an economic war.
 
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Swapping some bread for tickets to the circus sounds like a good deal to me

Once upon a time the Germans would barter gold to let you into one of their "holiday" camps.

Thankfully we've moved forward to a time where many of the survivors, victims, people who fought in the war have passed on. I would like to think that "war" really isn't an option when it comes to purely fiscal matters. I like to think as a race of people we have moved on.

That said - take a minute:

"Yom HaShoah, or Holocaust Remembrance Day, was officially designated as a day of observance by the Israeli Knesset in 1951 and is an internationally recognized day to remember, honor and memorialize the more than six million Jews who were murdered during the Holocaust.

The date corresponds to the 27th day of Nisan on the Hebrew calendar and marks the anniversary of the Warsaw ghetto uprising. Because the actual date of Yom HaShoah falls on a Sundayโ€”May 1โ€”this year, in Israel it will be officially observed on Monday, May 2. Many other countries will observe this event on Sunday, May 1, and Monday, May 2."

Source: http://themoderatevoice.com/108340/yom-hashoah-2011-a-day-to-remember-the-victims-of-the-holocaust/
 
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I suppose there is a big chance that the current crisis will end with a world war, like it already was in 1939...
 
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Deadline extended:

Geithner Extends Debt-Ceiling Deadline by Three Weeks to August

http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601108&sid=auDvszpXldq4

Some quotes from the article:

If Congress doesnโ€™t raise the limit by May 16, the Treasury will declare a โ€œdebt-issuance suspension periodโ€ under the statute governing the Civil Service Retirement and Disability Fund, Geithner said. That will allow the U.S. โ€œto redeem existing Treasury securities held by that fund as investments.โ€

โ€˜Next Stepsโ€™

Geithnerโ€™s letter shows that โ€œthe mechanics are now in motionโ€ for the government to take the โ€œnext stepsโ€ if the debt limit isnโ€™t raised, said Drew Matus, a senior economist at UBS Securities LLC in Stamford, Connecticut.

Though the extended August deadline โ€œin theory gives Congress additional time to complete work on increasing the debt limit, I caution strongly against delaying action,โ€ Geithner said in the letter. โ€œThe economy is still in the early stages of recovery, and financial markets here and around the world are watching the United States closely.โ€

Matthew Zames, chairman of a Treasury advisory panel and a managing director at JPMorgan Chase & Co., said last week that failure to raise the limit could be โ€œcatastrophic.โ€

โ€œAny delay in making an interest or principal payment by Treasury even for a very short period of time would put the U.S. Treasury and overall financial markets in uncharted territory, and could trigger another catastrophic financial crisis,โ€ Zames, chairman of the Treasury Borrowing Advisory Committee, wrote in a letter to Geithner.
 
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Really the world financial system and the US as the head country sometimes make me scared as there could be unawaited cosequences, including the wars and other nigthtmares. The US should overcome these times, otherwise there won't be any happy end.
 
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So after yesterday the commodities market went into panic mode with OIL losing nearly 10 % in one go and SILVER continuing a sharp decline (-30% in 4 days), today we hear about the rising inflation from Bloomberg as well.

These are the early signs of what in few years could ruin the savings of each American family.

How long before you raise your domain prices when dealing with American buyers?


http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=ahEOfkKdNVvY&pos=11

Restaurants Lift Prices as Inflation Hawks See Fed Lag Curve (1)
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By Anna-Louise Jackson and Anthony Feld


May 6 (Bloomberg) -- Dining out will cost more this year as U.S. restaurants take advantage of the nearly two-year long expansion to boost prices on food and drinks.

Higher-priced menus reflect growing confidence by eateries that consumers can afford to pay more to eat out. Restaurants are emboldened in part by the success of U.S. airlines, which have raised fares almost 10 percent since a year ago, according to Dean Maki, chief U.S. economist at Barclays Capital in New York.

โ€œThe fact that the airline industry was able to pass along cost increases signals that the pricing environment has become somewhat more favorable than it was during the heart of the recession,โ€ Maki said. โ€œItโ€™s more likely restaurants will be able to pass along price increases now relative to the last few years.โ€

Higher food and fuel costs are spurring menu changes, which are reflected in the food-services category of the personal- consumption-expenditures price index. Purchased meals and beverages, which make up about 6 percent of core PCE, rose nearly 2 percent in March from a year ago, the biggest increase since November 2009, according to data from the Bureau of Economic Analysis in Washington.

Several apparel companies -- including San Francisco-based Levi Strauss & Co., which supplies jeans to retailers in more than 110 countries -- also have announced increases to offset higher costs for cotton, foreign wages and freight. With imported-clothing prices rising at the fastest rate in at least a decade, retailers stand a better chance of exerting pricing power, Maki said.

Pressure on the Fed

All this puts pressure on the Federal Reserve to prevent inflation from getting out of hand, said Samer Nsouli, chief investment officer in New York for the Lyford Global Macro Fund.

โ€œInflation hawks see restaurants and airlines passing through higher prices and say the Fedโ€™s behind the curve,โ€ Nsouli said. โ€œThe Fedโ€™s not paying enough attention to such trends when it comes to its continued accommodative monetary policy.โ€

The central bankโ€™s Federal Open Market Committee said it โ€œwill pay close attention to the evolution of inflationโ€ in the statement for its April 27 meeting, when it kept the target for the federal funds rate, or overnight inter-bank lending rate, at zero to 0.25 percent. It first set the rate at the record low in December 2008. The Fed also reaffirmed at the April meeting its plan to complete a $600 billion Treasury purchase program by June.

โ€˜Transitoryโ€™ Threat

Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke and his chief deputies on the FOMC -- Fed Vice Chairman Janet Yellen and New York Fed President William C. Dudley -- have said in recent speeches that the committeeโ€™s leadership believes the threat from accelerating prices will prove โ€œtransitory.โ€ Even so, policy makers have been bumping up their forecast for 2011 core inflation, which excludes food and fuel. The April projection is about 1.5 percent, compared with about 1.2 percent in January.

Restaurants have projected menu increases of 1.8 percent during the next six months, the most in a year, according to research by RBC Capital Markets. The amount depends on the type of food they serve, said Larry Miller, an RBC analyst in Atlanta. In the same period, the companies are forecasting a rise of at least 3.2 percent in their commodity costs, the research showed.

Rising Unemployment

The industryโ€™s ability to pass along higher input costs depends on dinersโ€™ ability to pay more. The unemployment rate rose to 9 percent in April after dropping to 8.8 percent in March, still below a post-recession peak of 10.1 percent in October 2009. The Bloomberg Consumer Comfort Index fell to minus 46.2 in the week ended May 1, the second consecutive weekly decline.

Customer traffic still has improved from last year and โ€œtrends have been decent in terms of demand, so restaurants have a little more confidence to raise prices,โ€ Miller said.

The Standard & Poorโ€™s Supercomposite Restaurants Index, which includes McDonaldโ€™s Corp., The Cheesecake Factory Inc. and 25 other companies, has risen by 43 percent since December 31, 2007, while the S&P 500 Index has declined by 8 percent.

McDonaldโ€™s boosted menu prices in the U.S. by 1 percent in March, Chief Financial Officer Peter Bensen said on an April 21 conference call. The Oak Brook, Illinois-based fast-food chain had resisted such a move since 2009, said Miller, who upgraded McDonaldโ€™s stock in January to โ€œoutperformโ€ from โ€œsector perform.โ€

โ€˜Inflationary Environmentโ€™

โ€œOur upgrade was driven by the belief that fast-food models, like McDonaldโ€™s, thrive in a modest inflationary environment and that they would be able to successfully implement price increases in 2011,โ€ Miller said.

BJโ€™s Restaurants Inc. expects to boost menu prices for the full year by about 3 percent to offset rising food and energy costs, Chief Executive Officer Gerald Deitchle said on an April 20 conference call. Like McDonaldโ€™s, the Huntington Beach, Calfornia-based company didnโ€™t raise prices the past few years at its namesake brewery, pizza and grill chains, Deitchle said.

Cheesecake Factory, based in Calabasas Hills, California, is monitoring input costs after rolling out a 0.7 percent rise at its 150 casual-dining restaurants earlier this year, Chief Financial Officer Douglas Benn said on an April 20 conference call. The company currently projects a further boost of at least 1.4 percent later this year, he said.

โ€œWe will implement a higher level of menu-price increases in our upcoming summer menu change if commodity-cost pressures continue at the current level,โ€ Benn said.

Food Quality

Cheesecake Factory, BJโ€™s and McDonaldโ€™s are among a group of โ€œhaves,โ€ according to Steve West, an analyst at Stifel Nicolaus & Co. in St. Louis. These are restaurants that can push through moderate price changes, though they likely wonโ€™t be menu-wide, West said. He includes Chipotle Mexican Grill Inc. in this group because it has focused on improving food quality and the customer experience during the recession.

โ€œIf anyone has pricing power, itโ€™s Chipotle,โ€ said West, who maintains a โ€œbuyโ€ rating on the stock.

The Denver-based burrito chain, which McDonaldโ€™s spun off in 2006, will wait to raise prices until the third quarter, allowing it time to โ€œsee the magnitude and timing of inflation and assess the customer reaction to price increases at other restaurants,โ€ Chief Financial Officer John Hartung said on an April 20 conference call.

The restaurant industry will serve as a test of the retail sectorโ€™s pricing power, Maki said.

โ€˜Stronger Positionโ€™

โ€œConsumers are in a stronger position now because their labor income has been improving, but the surge in gasoline prices has moderated the recent growth in their purchasing power,โ€ Maki said.

For Yum! Brands Inc. -- the Louisville, Kentucky-based owner of KFC, Pizza Hut and Taco Bell fast-food chains -- potential price changes in this environment are a balancing act, Chief Financial Officer Richard Carucci said on an April 21 conference call.

โ€œWhen you have inflation and our sales are soft, you have to play it pretty smartly,โ€ Carucci said.

To contact the reporters on this story: Anna-Louise Jackson in New York at [email protected]; Anthony Feld in New York at [email protected]

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Chris Wellisz at [email protected]

Last Updated: May 6, 2011 11:06 EDT
 
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So after yesterday the commodities market went into panic mode with OIL losing nearly 10 % in one go and SILVER continuing a sharp decline (-30% in 4 days), today we hear about the rising inflation from Bloomberg as well.

Inflation metrics are about 3 months behind and are still based on factors that have huge seasonal impacts and correlations to other overall impacts that should be more carefully accounted for. There is a group working on REAL-TIME inflation (I think it's a group at Berkeley, CA but I forget) which is much more interesting - in part because you have to much more carefully configure the inputs into the calculation which is what they are doing. There "inflation" will be more aligned to what the average citizen "feels" and sees. It's not related to the amount of money printed but that's ok. Who cares, right?

Inflation numbers are over relied on as a valid metric for measuring the economy. imho.

That said. It's not exactly panic mode. Silver reached a high and now people want to reduce their Risk based on what insiders have been telling them about future unemployment. That's what they say but then it's just as likely that they had software count positive/negative words in the NY Times subscriber online issue and issue buy/sell orders based on some Copula function.

The BIGGEST change these past few weeks that no one is talking about (SURPRISE SURPRISE) is that the European Central Bank is not in a very comfortable position and that the European monetary market is being squeezed and the value of the Euro is expected to go in a different direction to the dollar than we've been seeing in recent history. That is not positive.

Take a look at what Estonia has done to join the European community. I can see the conversation now... "We know you cut spending and put in place austerity measures and have unemployment of 16% to join but can you please now contribute to our help Spain and Ireland fund?"

What's the solution? Well the Euro unwinding process will break banks, will destroy the Euro bond market and basically not work. Some UK Think Tanks put at 20% the chance the Euro SURVIVES!

Ah..but we haven't used the magic bullet yet. Quantitative Easing, Euro Style....

Enjoy.
 
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The BIGGEST change these past few weeks that no one is talking about (SURPRISE SURPRISE) is that the European Central Bank is not in a very comfortable position and that the European monetary market is being squeezed and the value of the Euro is expected to go in a different direction to the dollar than we've been seeing in recent history. That is not positive.

Take a look at what Estonia has done to join the European community. I can see the conversation now... "We know you cut spending and put in place austerity measures and have unemployment of 16% to join but can you please now contribute to our help Spain and Ireland fund?"

What's the solution? Well the Euro unwinding process will break banks, will destroy the Euro bond market and basically not work. Some UK Think Tanks put at 20% the chance the Euro SURVIVES!

Ah..but we haven't used the magic bullet yet. Quantitative Easing, Euro Style....

Enjoy.

Actually it's nearly a year I warned my Italian friends about Greece, Portugal and Ireland debt and what that could mean for the Euro. Italy was not too far behind those 3.

Rumors today are that Greece is about to go out of the Euro.

I just see only few countries in the world in reasonable good shape, mainly China, Australia and Canada. But all of them have inflated real estate values and a lot of debt that will just tank them too in case of another financial meltdown.

My humble opinion is that in a way or another the FED will stretch this problem till 2013, then we'll be watching the fireworks.
 
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I just see only few countries in the world in reasonable good shape, mainly China, Australia and Canada. But all of them have inflated real estate values and a lot of debt that will just tank them too in case of another financial meltdown.


Capitalism is boom-bust. We spent the last decade living through the boom, and now we are faced with the bust. The US will NEVER default on loans, any student of macroeconomics could tell you that. Why?

We can print as much money as we want, regardless of the long-term consequences.

In relation to GDP, there are other economies (such as Japan) that are in greater debt than the US and have economies much larger than that of Australia or Canada.

I have absolute faith in the US economy and government. While I hate both sides of the aisle (Democrats / Republicans), I strongly believe this country houses some of the smartest, hard-working, and creative thinking men and women on the planet.

If we can send a man to the moon, invent the atomic bomb, and pioneer global economics for decades, I know we can tighten our belts and fix the economy.
 
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Capitalism is boom-bust. We spent the last decade living through the boom, and now we are faced with the bust. The US will NEVER default on loans, any student of macroeconomics could tell you that. Why?

We can print as much money as we want, regardless of the long-term consequences.

True. We should really just print the 13 trillion dollar give it to China and ask for change now and get it over with.

In relation to GDP, there are other economies (such as Japan) that are in greater debt than the US and have economies much larger than that of Australia or Canada.

That's a single debt picture. I have friend who weighs more than me. Doesn't make me skinny.

The dollar is weak in all fronts. This is great for our trade though.. if it wasn't all going in the wrong direction.



I have absolute faith in the US economy and government. While I hate both sides of the aisle (Democrats / Republicans), I strongly believe this country houses some of the smartest, hard-working, and creative thinking men and women on the planet.

This is true. It also has some of the most manipulative - and these control a lot more than you'd believe.

This country also has some of the hardest-working, creative-thinking men and women living on the street.

If we can send a man to the moon, invent the atomic bomb, and pioneer global economics for decades, I know we can tighten our belts and fix the economy.

Unless you plan on sending a bomb up on a shuttle and dropping it in a bunch of strategic locations these historical events aren't going to help much.

It's not about tightening belts. It's about radically changing. We can't even get people to agree that the moon reflects light and doesn't emit it... We can't even get people to understand that burgers come from cows.. and that things evolve!

Good Luck.
 
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