How GoDaddy Backorder work exactly?

[saisha]

hollas to everybody
i spent all day gathering info on the subject and now have a pure mess in my head wondering why there is nothing about it on gd site exept one paragraph in tos which says nothing defenite and shady stuff in faq.

im talking here only about backordering domains that were registered by gd

am i get this right?
the way backorders worked before:
only ONE person can backorder. if someone place backorder it makes domain go to the auction for EVERYONE and person who placed original backorder may had no idea about that. wow.

the way it work now:
everyone can backorder then it goes to auction for only those who backordered. if only one person placed backorder he/she get domain with no auction at all, right?

the way it was before seems like you better not use it at all also make no sense. and that make me feel scared to use it now becouse i dont see any official info about it or explanations to make things clear. contrary their faq sounds like they still do it old way

If your domain goes to auction, we may use your backorder cost to place the opening bid on the domain. If no one else places a bid on the name, we capture and register the domain for you, subject to the rights of the previous owner. If someone does bid on the domain, you receive an outbid notice and are given the chance to place a higher bid or move your backorder to another name.

anyways, i want 2 domains
first one expired about 2 weeks ago and now parked on gd default page for expired domains. it says

Notice: This domain name expired on 08/25/2009 and is pending renewal or deletion
This page is parked free, courtesy of GoDaddy.com.

whois shows that gd reserved this domain for the next year on the next day it was expired so now it belongs to gd i guess

Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 26-aug-2009
Creation Date: 25-aug-2008
Expiration Date: 25-aug-2010

this domain is not on auction yet but i searched for similar domains at gd auction that expired about month before my domain did and now they offered for 5 bucks "buy now". they also reserved by gd for the next year.

so my questions,
how long is "pending renewal or deletion" period? is it same period that called grace period in tos and lasts 12 days?
what happens after that? auction anyway? if there were backorders - private auction, if no backorders - 5 bucks open for everyone auction, something like that? is it called redemption period in tos and lasts 30 days?
how i may see how much backorders domain have if any? or i have to wait until auction date to find out how many competitors i have?

and what should i do in case of this domain? backorder or not?


second domain id like to be mine expired about month ago and now has redemption status with no parking page and gd didn't reserved it for the next year so what gonna happen? gd gonna let it to be dropped? i dont know if it was placed at auction or not but right now its not on auction. what i should do in this case? backorder with gd or not? i heard they suck on catching drops even their own drops. how is it now? does they have any advantages in catching their own domains? common sense tells me they could catch without even dropping it just renew it before its too late. or they gonna lose it?

any input is much desired :hearts:

 

[mis_chiff]

In your first part you are asking about backorders,
I don't know much about those...

But here's some help for the second one,
ICANN | Life Cycle of a Typical gTLD Domain Name

 

[werty]

I would change the title to "how godaddy backorder doesn't work" . save your money and time.

 

[crazy.works]

I would change the title to "how godaddy backorder doesn't work" . save your money and time.

i agree..... i tried it once and i will never do it again !

 

[werty]

I remember when I was starting out I back-ordered 10 Domains on Godaddy thinking it was that easy to get them. Eventually as time passed all failed to be registered. and No Refund because of time elapsed.

 

[garptrader]

Godaddy-registered domains automatically pass to TDNam where Godaddy will attempt to auction them off before they go through the normal deletion process where they would be available for example at Snapnames. I have seen some Godaddy domains cycle through again a couple weeks later so I'm not sure how long Godaddy holds onto them. After a registrant deletes a name from their account, the domain can still be renewed if the registration period has not lapsed (sometimes I delete domains up to a couple weeks early knowing that I won't renew). After the registration period has lapsed the domain will appear at TDNam with ten days till the auction end date. You shouldn't submit a bid until shortly before the end date because if you bid days in advance other domainers will see your bid and you will find yourself in a bidding war for the domain. However, if noone bids on the domain, instead of a $10 minimum bid, it will be available with a $5 BIN price. Anyone can buy it for $5 plus the domain's registration fee which depends on the extension. One trick which I have used but you need to be careful with is the following. If you wait till say one or two minutes before the auction expiration to place your bid, TDNam will automatically add a couple of minutes to the auction time period during which time someone might see your name and bid it up. But if you wait till after the auction period has expired, then you send no alert and after about five minutes it will be available for the $5 BIN. You need to be careful and watch it though because someone else could come in at the last minute or even apply this same strategy and beat you to it.

 

[globegenius]

I did not have a good experience with g*daddy. As a new domain seller I'm wondering if mine are worth anything?

Any idea's where I should price mine?

googlevault.com
bizestock.com
comfycore.com
ubuywarehouse.com
ubuywarehouse.net
moistme.com
businessdaz.com
globegenius.com
zmatricks.com

Thanks for any input.
New to domain selling. I have too many to manage properly. I have more I'll offer for sale if I can get an idea what I should ask.

 

[JoshuaPz]

What garptrader says applies only to domains registered with GoDaddy that expired and have not yet reached redemption. In the case of any other domain (not registered with GoDaddy -OR- in the redemptionPeriod or pendingDelete stages), here's the deal:

BEFORE the change:
* Only individual may backorder a given domain name (paying advance fee of $8.99 - $18.99). Once he/she does, the option to backorder the domain becomes off-limits to everyone else.
* Domain drops, GoDaddy attempts to capture it.
* If GoDaddy succeeds, the domain immediately slips into the backordering party's account. Otherwise, GoDaddy provides him/her a credit he/she may apply towards a future GoDaddy backorder.

AFTER the change:
* Any number of individuals may backorder a given domain name (each pays an advance fee of $8.99 - $18.99).
* Domain drops, GoDaddy attempts to capture it.
* If GoDaddy fails to capture the domain name, all backordering parties receive a credit they may each apply towards a future GoDaddy backorder.
* If GoDaddy succeeds and you were the only party who backordered the domain, the domain immediately slips into your account.
* If GoDaddy succeeds and multiple parties backordered the domain, a private one-week auction kicks off between all backordering parties, with the first backordering party initially listed as the high bidder. All parties are then invited to place additional bids on the domain. Upon conclusion of the auction, the high bidder must pay the amount of his/her high bid MINUS $10 (because he/she has already paid this amount upfront for the backorder), and on doing so the domain immediately slips into his/her account. All the other (non-winning) parties then receive a credit they may each apply towards a future GoDaddy backorder.

I actually prefer the new system over the old one because with the old system, I would consistently get beaten to the punch by computer-plastered "hawks" that analyze dropping domains well in advance of their drop dates. Now I have a chance to capture those domains with GoDaddy (paying, say, $30 at one of these auctions versus $59 with SnapNames, which I would previously have needed to resort to in such a case).

Furthermore, these private auctions generally aren't so competitive. 90% of the pendingDelete domains my customers backorder on GoDaddy (fairly strong keyword domains at that) don't end up going to auction at all, and even when they do, it's unusual for these auctions to end above $25.

So, while I am not pleased that GoDaddy changed their backorder system without warning, I wouldn't make such a fuss about the new routine because you could actually work this system to your benefit if you play your cards correctly. More money in GoDaddy's pocket does not necessarily translate to less money in your own.

 

[spikedo]

I though all GoDaddy dropping domains automatuically go thru the auction process before the backorder activates. At least, that was the process a few years ago during the .us boom.

 

[uliss]

Is someone a freelancer of backorder? How does the career sounds like?

 

[ezimedia]

Hi

Forget about GD backorder.... just go to TDnam.com and bid on the domain you want.

Tom