discuss How far the Domain age matters?

[Rajnish Prasad]

The most sought component of any valuable Domain is the "Age" Factor.

But How far it is relevant when it comes to enduser marketing & requirements of any enduser!!
I have put below my thoughts and would expect the experts to put down their own thoughts:

1. IMO the domain age revolves mostly between the Re-Sellers:

It's a fact that most of the valuable & rare domains were already registered a decade ago. So mostly the Buyers which are the Resellers or the Domainers are mostly concerned about the domain age and once they re-sell it to other buyer which is the reseller again then the age factor plays the vital role. But this age factor hardly matters to the Endusers who just need a brand name for their business or whatever.

Lets understand it by an example:

For example 1: a Enduser who is in search a Domain name for his Furniture online business starts haunting a domain name and as per his requirement the domain name should contain the furniture keyword puls the name of his village/town. He finds it with a Reseller who has the domain which was registered a week ago. so in this instance will the Enduser look for the Domain age? Answer is straightforward "NO". As per his requirement he got the Brand domain name and the age has nothing to do with it.

Example 2: We all know that "CASINO" is a rare valuable keyword and most the domains related with this keyword have already been registered. So for instance if tomorrow if a Synonym of CASINO is introduced in the Dictionary like "CAZZINOA" which would mean CASINO then will this new keyword would be valuable or not irrespective of the DOMAIN age. The answer is "YES"

So, what we see that Aging factor is mostly revolves around the resellers i.e from one domainer to another but when it comes to enduser requirement it hardly matters.

2. Its totally untrue that all the precious names have already been registered and the unregistered names does not have market value:

Most of us think that all the valuable keywords have been registered but since the NGTLDs have come into place the Endusers have the alternate options and there are still 5 Letters and 2 words domains which are left to be Reggd. For example tomorrow a NASA decides to send its Space machine to Uranus Planet. So the topic Uranus planet becomes hot and just for the information of fellow domainers the domain "UranusPlanet.com" is still unregistered and the one who hits it can become a millionaire or even more.

So the concept of Aging factor changes and has changed in todays scenario and has nothing to do with the reality when it comes to Enduser requirement.

According to me what matters most is the Keyword, Its Relevance for Business Branding and its Availability.

There are still hundreds/Thousands of good domain names which are left unregistered and i am 100% sure if you register any of those then you will surely sell it for a profit atleast for $1 profit. So when you are earning something even a penny then atleast there is a guarantee that the new hand reggd domains does carry some value.

when something changes as per the requirement then it cannot be called a"THUMB RULE" or an "Integral Factor" or a "Deciding Factor" and the AGE Factor rules out here.

 

[biggie]

Hi

i think the point you're trying to get across, in relation to "reseller preferences versus those of end-users", are already known.

at least to those, who are in the know




imo...

 

[Rajnish Prasad]

Hi

i think the point you're trying to get across, in relation to "reseller preferences versus those of end-users", are already known.

at least to those, who are in the know




imo...

Thanks for ur response. But the audience whom you are referring to "WHO ALREADY KNOW" are mostly the ones who run after the AGE FACTOR and are unable to reach out to the endusers. They are just reshuffling the domains within themselves.

 

[biggie]

Thanks for ur response. But the audience whom you are referring to "WHO ALREADY KNOW" are mostly the ones who run after the AGE FACTOR and are unable to reach out to the endusers. They are just reshuffling the domains within themselves.

maybe you really don't know, about those who are "in the know",and what they know.

true, there are some who covet age of a name like a blanket, and wrap themselves all up in that aspect of domaining

then there are some who acquire names, for keywords or acquire short domains, without regard for age, and where age is only seen in retrospect, after acquisition

i have names from the 90's, but when i got them, my focus wasn't on registration dates

and it's that way for a large group of domainers as well.

additionally, the "reshuffling" or circulation of some of the same names within the reseller group, isn't necessarily a bad thing.
because as the years go by, prices have went up.

as for reaching out to end-users
everybody don't play the reach-out game, some of us like to sit back and wait for offers

but there are hundreds on posts here with claims of end-users sales, so some of them must know how to sell outside the group.

imo....

 

[Rajnish Prasad]

maybe you really don't know, about those who are "in the know",and what they know.

true, there are some who covet age of a name like a blanket, and wrap themselves all up in that aspect of domaining

then there are some who acquire names, for keywords or acquire short domains, without regard for age, and where age is only seen in retrospect, after acquisition

i have names from the 90's, but when i got them, my focus wasn't on registration dates

and it's that way for a large group of domainers as well.

additionally, the "reshuffling" or circulation of some of the same names within the reseller group, isn't necessarily a bad thing.
because as the years go by, prices have went up.

as for reaching out to end-users
everybody don't play the reach-out game, some of us like to sit back and wait for offers

but there are hundreds on posts here with claims of end-users sales, so some of them must know how to sell outside the group.

imo....

I completely agree to wat u said and i could analyse that you are one of the most sensible ones but no offence to other fellow domainers and due respect to all as i am also part of this community.
The point of Aging i raised coz i could see some people making Age a Precondition and creating a HYPE rather focussing on the Keyword.

And Domaining is mostly a "Reshuffling" and i dont see it as a BAD at all. But what we are lacking today is a centralised and Organized Enduser market and once we have such kind of platform then i am pretty sure that some of the myths related to the domaining will get wiped out & AGING would be the one for sure.

 

[biggie]

if there was a "centralized / organized end-user market", then the end-users would want to be domainers too.



that's part of the quandary of informing outsiders about domaining
once they know, then they'll want to sell names to you.

but yeah, there is hype around age of a name and some, particularly in domains wanted threads make a point of asking for such, as part of criteria.

but look also at the budgets for those requests.
if age was really a true factor, then folks would be willing to spend more for them.

back in the day, domainers wanted domains that had "overture score with extension"

then they wanted domains with minimum 10k exact match searches in gkwt

they wanted emds

then they want names da, do, dmoz, sem, alexa, majestic, blah this blah that

hype, is part of the psych, that's played on those who don't know
and hype can play you, if you get caught up in it


imo....

 

[Rajnish Prasad]

if there was a "centralized / organized end-user market", then the end-users would want to be domainers too.



that's part of the quandary of informing outsiders about domaining
once they know, then they'll want to sell names to you.

but yeah, there is hype around age of a name and some, particularly in domains wanted threads make a point of asking for such, as part of criteria.

but look also at the budgets for those requests.
if age was really a true factor, then folks would be willing to spend more for them.

back in the day, domainers wanted domains that had "overture score with extension"

then they wanted domains with minimum 10k exact match searches in gkwt

they wanted emds

then they want names da, do, dmoz, sem, alexa, majestic, blah this blah that

hype, is part of the psych, that's played on those who don't know
and hype can play you, if you get caught up in it


imo....

The requirements are never static and it changes as per the trend and the market which is highly volatile.
Great learning from you... Thanks for ur valuable inputs.. I am just new to this domaining hardly started 2 yrs back. Great to interact and learn frm u Experts.

 

[Satyajit Adhikary]

Earlier Google algorithm used to give preference to aged domains in SERP.

Now, the big G has clearly stated that exact keyword domains or aged domains are not left with much advantage for ranking.

Domaining was always related to SEO to some extent. Now Google prefers to rank short, Pronounciable, memorable and brandable names, offcourse with quality content in the site.