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smartseohosting.com can't cancel/refund a new order due to Patriot Act? lol I asked for a refund and no services have even been rendered.... they don't have what I need and their support is a joke... I am thinking 1 or 2 man operation. To cancel and reverse the charge to it's original source, I have to prove my identity? They are an Australian Company and the patriot act has nothing to do with this type of situation. I think they just want to make it harder to chargeback, nothing more.

Am I right?
 
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Please move this to the proper scam alert area.
 
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Something tells me that, with a name such as "smartseohosting," they are not new to the ripoffreport. I have never personally done business with them, but they seem to have a number of loopholes to jump out of to keep from ever having to provide any service at all.

I am always weary about SEO hosting, because quality SEO and quality hosting have very little to do with one another. They probably have a server with tons of IPs and decided to be a web host one day. Good with getting new client sign ups (due to their proficiency in SEO), but obviously inexperienced on delivering the hosting service. Hope this is remedied for you!
 
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Oddly, that name wasn't in the RipOffReport db. They also terminated my account without ever providing services or refund.

My bank is handling it now, but have to get new card.

I just needed IPs so I can do my mass emailing, 100% legit and CAN SPAM COMPLIANT, through many IPs to not get throttled all the time. Oh well, lesson learned about "discount deals".
 
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**UPDATE**

They just responded with this idiotic empty threat:




Hi Jeffery,

I am forwarding this to our legal team.
Have a chat with your lawyer as he is going to be very happy for the money you are going to need to spend in court for the next 5 years.

See you in court.

Kind Regards,
Smart SEO Hosting Support.

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Ticket ID: #197517
Subject: Is Exim configured to send email through the domain's dedicated IP?
Status: Answered
Ticket URL: https://www.smartseohosting.com/client/viewticket.php?tid=197517&c=kv0rFBQg




So they can afford 5 years of legal fees, but not to refund $64? ROFL
 
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**UPDATE**
They just responded with this idiotic empty threat:


Hi Jeffery,

I am forwarding this to our legal team.
Have a chat with your lawyer as he is going to be very happy for the money you are going to need to spend in court for the next 5 years.

See you in court.

Kind Regards,
Smart SEO Hosting Support.

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Ticket ID: #197517
Subject: Is Exim configured to send email through the domain's dedicated IP?
Status: Answered
Ticket URL: https://www.smartseohosting.com/client/viewticket.php?tid=197517&c=kv0rFBQg

So they can afford 5 years of legal fees, but not to refund $64? ROFL
Ha, ha, ha... EXACTLY!

You might want to post REVIEWS of your experience with SmartSEOHosting.com on some of the webhosting service sites such as WebHostTalking.com, etc. This way anyone is thinking about hosting on/with WebSEOHosting.com and are looking for reviews of it they can see what your experience was like.
 
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mass emails through different ip's?

you mean the emails domain investors are sick and tired of receiving? ol

not the ones they did not ask for don't want and have to waste half their day constantly deleting ? Lol

why not use just the one ip so that those receiving such emails only need to block one ip? lol
 
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PLATEY: No trolling new guy, we have a high open, click and retain rate. Since you are oblivious, we run a very popular premium service and sending too many from one IP at a time causes you to be throttled, slowed down. So it is common practice to send from a few IPs, also giving the benefit of splitting the server load across numerous servers.

I went there for the price and value advertised in Adwords, not blackhat reasons. Your pre-assumption was ignorant at best and it's not very professional, also showing your lack of email marketing knowledge.

Stop saying LOL to yourself, nothing you wrote is funny nor correct, just ignorant and childish.
 
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Ha, ha, ha... EXACTLY!

You might want to post REVIEWS of your experience with SmartSEOHosting.com on some of the webhosting service sites such as WebHostTalking.com, etc. This way anyone is thinking about hosting on/with WebSEOHosting.com and are looking for reviews of it they can see what your experience was like.

Yeah I hit ripoffreport and reported them to Adwords, where I found them advertised. They just replied aain saying they'll see me in court in 40 days. Man, I wish I could get a court date that fast with my ex-wife HA.
 
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All this over $64??? SmartSEOHosting.com's attorney must sure work cheap!

Also, I would think this amount would put this in Small Claims Court and I didn't think attorneys were allowed in there. (At least in most US jurisdictions.)
 
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Especially from Australia. Need him/her for a few things.
 
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At that comment? Clarification... that it is very cheap to try to sue from Australia to the USA for $64 and I need a lawyer that cheap.
 
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Lots of online companies; that just want your money, without providing service. Crooks and scums slimy...report..
 
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Ah gotcha, true that man. Things used to be a lot easier online, still had scams but now 90% seems to be BS.
 
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Nothing, I don't like people taking advantage of people; either monetary or service. Both stinks.
 
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Gotcha, well luckily I found the perfect solution.... IMPACT VPS. I ordered a huge custom package and can split it into 10, 20, even 50 VPSes.
 
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All this over $64??? SmartSEOHosting.com's attorney must sure work cheap!

Also, I would think this amount would put this in Small Claims Court and I didn't think attorneys were allowed in there. (At least in most US jurisdictions.)
Small claims court, you have to go to the city hall files papers.

Files paper= $38 bucks
Time spent= XX
car parking meter = xx
Stress= xx
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Hello All,

We had to create an account so we can response to this post and provide our side of story.
Being new to this community let me first introduce our offering.

We are a seo hosting provider that provides IPs from 120+ different datacenters from all around the world all managed from a single whm account.
That is very true that traditional seo hosting companies have a single computer behind a single router with many ip addresses but what we offer is ips from all around the world and not just a single datacenter or single server.

We are very glad to be a part of this community as many of highly respected domain traders are our very good and loyal customers and notified us of this post.

Now back to this case!
Due to the nature of our business and huge ip space we have, unfortunately we are a target of email spammers. There is not a day that goes by that we do not have few spammers signing up on our site (mostly from Russia but from time to time we get 1 or 2 from USA too) that we have to manually verify and reject to protect our ip space reputation and stay within the boundaries of law.

As you will see this particular order has all the signs of an email spammer which we needed to verify.
This customers ordered 30 different IPs from 30 different datacenters and all from different states in the US. This by itself is not a flag as all our clients order from different datacenters.

The first red flag was the order, as you can see in the stripe screenshot the first payment was rejected by the issuing bank as fraud/stolen card, 6 minutes later using a different credit card the order was paid.
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The order was then automatically approved after the payment and all 30 ips were assigned to his account.


The second red flag was the main domain name of the order "subscribernexus.com" which as you can see is less than 2 months old and sounds very much like a mailing list. To put this in perspective, almost all our clients have expensive and aged domains and not just random domain names.
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The 3rd red flag was the ticket he opened and asked for smtp port and exim configuration on all those 30 domains to be changed so he can send mass emails. He also asked for PTR for all does ips to be changed as according to him, gmail might block his email. Again seo experts looking to host their PBN do not ask or need any of those and unless someone is after a mass mailing solution none of these applies.

At this point and in order for us to be able to change PTR of that many ips and by so many different providers, we needed to verify his identity. This is a safeguard and legal responsibility. This is a very standard process (check mailgun mandrilapp and so on)
As you can see in the screenshot all we asked was for him to verify his identity and business purpose before we can open 30 different datacenters to this unknown individual.
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For probably obvious reason he did not want to verify his identity meanwhile we got an email from one of the datacenters notifying us that one of the ips is now blocked because of spam activities.

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This is all despite the fact that as you can see after we got the spam alert from the datacenter we refunded his payment.
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This is a mater of illegal activities on rented space, potential identity or credit card theft which ended with attacks on our companies reputation.
We have forwarded this to our legal agent as I am sure any one would do to protect their business and customers.

At the end of the day we will do anything in our power to make sure our ip space remains clean and no spammer ends up using any of our ips.
As many of you already know and considering the value of domains that are hosted on our networks we are very picky when it comes to accept new customers.
As always our main goal is to keep our existing client base and help them grow their network and protect their domains rather than focusing on accepting risky clients.

Regards,
Smart SEO Hosting.

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