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Just letting new comers here wondering around.

Just know that there are only 14 reported "goggle" domain sales in the history of domaining (that is a low amount), most of which were for only 3 figures and only *one* was VR related and it likely sold to another domainer. No brand in this industry uses the term "goggles" and no reputable AR/VR media outlets use the term "goggles" to describe headsets. If you go to an AR/VR tech event talking about "goggles" people will think that you're completely new to the industry. This is why I highly advise to never invest in "goggle" domains.
Yeah i hate the term goggles reminds me that ski should be in-front of it . Glasses is the term for me and the end goal
 
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Unfortunately, we do not have any context for how that was said, but reading it carefully, it look as though they are saying this to independent app developers. But perhaps it is their corp devs ?
And we do not know with what type of app(s).
However, I will look inside the Apple dev program announcements and see if I can find where in context that is from.

But in any case, Good luck with that Apple. The consumers will call it what they will just as domainer's do...LOL

I can see them at least initially trying to maintain, that what they have is different. That is true.
And not wanting to get lumped in with others.

But in my opinion, just by definition, spacial computing app would be one that utilizes 3D space in it's interactivity.
So, reaching out to an object that is further away than some other would be an example of that.
So, it is not VR exactly. which could be a flat 3D if you can imagine that. Being the difference of interactivity within the space.
Hard definition yet once again. But I think this was well covered decades ago by the term "virtuality".

Anyway.... one more word war on the horizon. A lot of FOO has been flung.
We will see what stands the test of time and sticks to hold the BAR.


When you say "But in any case, Good luck with that Apple. The consumers will call it what they will just as domainer's do...LOL"

It's proof that all this time, all these years on this forum, you STILL have absolutely no idea what domain investing is!

Domain investors who know what they're doing take into account what consumers are searching for and also the terms that businesses are using to market themselves with, because they often times will try to acquire domains that embody their marketing message.

If Apple becomes the leader in this industry and they are forcing their ecosystem to only use Spatial Computing to describe their products and services that is not something domain investors that know what they're doing will ignore.

This is what seperates domain collectors and domain investors.

You have never reported a sale after being here since ancient times, and I strongly believe it's because you don't understand how the domain industry actually works. And it's shocking, because you're on this site giving more advice on this site than any other member!
 
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Just hand regged V/R/i/m/m/e/r/se/ in the king COM, can't believe it was available, it dropped 2 months ago.

Don't have any immerse but like immersive very much as a descriptor.
 
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Haha, I might have let that drop. I do have cougarsVR.

BTW, next time you're going to sell a smut VR/AR/XR domain, tell me the price. At least you might have a genuine counter offer to go back to the buyer with.
I did get on offer on Ai-Porn.com $5k
 
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We both know that the large one that makes most of that total was 'not related' to VR/AR/MR or alt media or haptics in general or even remotely. I would call that one luck as it was not your target and you should as well.

Great sale and all but, how does that say anything for XR in our niche ?

Do you need to convince everyone ? Tell it as it is without the hype.

I think we have had this discussion before... deja vu

Do I need to convince anything? Nope so I won't try to 🤣🤷🏽‍♂️
 
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V/R/o/f/f/i/c/e .me

A/R/o/f/f/i/c/e .me

X/R/o/f/f/i/c/e .me
 
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Very, VERY few domain investors are fortunate enough to have more than 5 XR related sales in the 4 figure range or higher. DNJournal only reports sales in the 4 figure range or higher.

The reality is that if you want to be a successful domainer, never focus on one niche. The domainer who are only interested in XR related niches, those who primarily post only in the XR related threads are not making any money. That's not how domain investing works.

That said, it is fun to invest on XR related keywords. Collecting beautiful domains is fun, especially that are 1 or 2 words and worth 4 figures or more. But you're making ZERO profit if you're focusing on one ONE NICHE with THREE WORD domains. That's a DOUBLE NEGATIVE.

Don't flush money down the can lke some people around here. They make no sales...never reported a sale on their life. But they have the most advise around here.
 
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I’m not going to invest in Ai domain names, but I am looking at other way I can make money with Ai.

I’m not sure how you can call Ai an “investor frenzy” Ai is inevitable and it’s going to be as revolutionary as electricity/antibiotics and World Wide Web.

Immersive tech is also inevitable in my opinion, but whether the time is now for this tech or not I’m not sure.

But one thing I do know is Immersive tech is not going to be as revolutionary as the 3 I said above, immersive tech’s potential is being like television, Ai is on a whole different level in terms of the impact it’s going to have on the world and how it’s going to change everything (hopefully for the better).
1st, good luck with investing in AI outside of domains. I mean that. One can make money not just from it but the misconceptions of it. Many are doing just that.

My good man, I know you have been doing this long enough to know the difference between great tech or even moderate tech and the need for domains to describe it. Meaning who actually need to use the term in their marketing enough to make it their internet domain way of finding them. It is only a address.
Always some. But look at the quantity of names reg'd. You can't tell me that 99% of all those reg's are not going down the toilet.
Not that names/term will not be used in many ways. But it's where it counts in domains.
I don't collect terms. I invest in domains likely to be needed.


There are at least 3 meta/metaverse names in registration for every company in the US. Not even .00001% in use.
And that is not likely to quadruple in 3 years or even 5.
And we can look similarly to each term that keeps getting blown out of proportion.
I think that starts with anyone calculating the scope of the need. Then the segments of it that are more likely.
Obviously, they skip those steps. Go for the available name instead.
Nothing wrong with putting a few markers down on a potential term. But 50+ ?

I think I would call it 'over-reactions'

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I would invite anyone to look-up the top 20 VR software companies and look at the domains they use.
That should wake someone up. While you may disagree with their choices, know they are big enough to do whatever they want or need. And the marketing folks get to make those calls most often. At least a thumb on the scale.

Here is a list of 2023 top VR co's https://www.softwaretestinghelp.com/top-virtual-reality-companies/
Just look up their domains. Some but not many. A well established segment. A few did pre-exist our niche.
Then do the same for their products and then your favorite term and it's field of top co's.
Need can be revealing.
I get it... it's what will be. Not what is. But you only have the data on how it has worked thus far and does anyone think it's going to change fundamentally just for a term. The need for a term in a domain name.

If I had the need for a VR software 'product' I would likely use the term in the domain. But the company that I formed to represent my products, not necessarily. Think about that some.

The last time I was really caught up in it myself was 3D in '07-2010 and it was geo domains before that.
But that is when a lot of stuff was still coming online for the first time. Demand was near it's highest levels.
We have experience and spans of data now. And things are much slower and lighter.
 
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If you want a lesson on 'Branding' and 'Domains' along with 'Trademark'
Pay close attention to what is going on with Elon Musk with Twitter and his brand 'X'
or should I say, want to be brand 'X' with x.com
We may get a few court lessons with this. But domain investors should be paying attention.
It's not very often what I talk about in the relationship of these 3 things shines through in such a visible way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X.com

 
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Dont pay attention to these google trend page, look elsewhere.
 
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Not a lot.

About 3 or 4 times a year for the last 8 years we always had these ‘big’ announcements from the likes of Apple/Facebook and other big tech companies that are ‘supposedly’ going to change things and are going and make usage terms be it Meta/Metaverse/Mixed Reality/Merged Reality/VR/AR/Immersive become relevant.

Truth is we still are where we was back in 2015 as far as naming is concerned, just search back and see the same conversations from almost a decade ago still happening today and my prediction is we will still be having this conversation this time next year on NamePros, ie 31st May 2024 there will be another upcoming announcement by a big tech company that (supposedly) is ‘going to change things’ as far as naming is concerned, maybe one day it will happen, but truth is out of (say) 20 of these ‘BIG’ announcements in the last few years, nothing has happened and we are still at square 1, so my money (I’m not putting any more of my money on it) is nothing happening again.

The biggest development in my time investing in virtual tech was the ‘meta’ and ‘metaverse’ boom during that 3 to 6 month spell a couple of years ago - I’ve never seen anything like that in my time investing and thought that was going to change things, but it never, would any investor pay more than $500 for a ‘meta+keyword’ domain today? If anyone would, bad investment in my opinion for various reasons.

But some has become more relevant.

I still get offers for my metaverse names, and XR has gone stronger just this week I had 2 offers for for xrporn that are twice the amount i paid and i haven't really started negotiating (first offer)

Are you really seeing it the way you do saying nothing has changed?
 
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In the next week we may find out more meta teasing a showing of new headset to beat apple to punch , wwdc etc etc really everyone here makes great points i see xr growing each day but this is me as my opinion

Data is not an opinion, data shows stuff but it's a waste of time for me really.
 
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Apple Reality is a bad name.
Fit meta and that's why meta started talking about meta reality.

Got an influx in offers for my XR names.
a lot more volume last couple of days but holding.
wouldn't be smart to sell now.
 
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As it looks like XROS is going to be used (nothing certain but looks like it) I would ask @VRdommy and others.

What will xros usage by apple will do to the XR term.
 
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That’s great, I don’t care about your opinion either.

No you don’t, but you spam companies and people on social media/NamePros what people ‘should’ invest in and what they should call tech and most of what you say is not about what is good for the tech itself, it’s about what’s good for Elad and his investments, so you do ‘try’ (in your own way) to influence things.

Once again this is also what you call ‘helping people’.

All mighty powerful Elad that changes the minds of big companies and people on social media to invest in whatever I'm investing for the greater goods of the all mighty me.


Yea mate, sure.
 
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He posted the top 100 from this year. If you're talking about the last report for the last 7 days, those would make a nano-percentage of the total report....

Playground is one word. And so is Headphones lol.... .. So it's even less than what you're trying to make it up to be...
Are you trying to say there were no 3 word sales this year ?

I can see them. And even those in the top 100 for the year or last year. This month, last month.
Have you looked or are you just looking for any mistakes he makes to pick on ?

As I read your posts, you are saying they are worthless.
So, not exactly so. I think you need to admit what is there. Or what is your point I'm not getting?

Looks like I walked into one of those kinda fights. Can't find a decent board. Child's play everywhere.
 
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"Goggles"...

3 word domains...

Non-keyword "keyword domains"

Putting "catchy sounding" keywords together like a child playing with Legos, with not a care in the world for real world data, sales history and common sense, wondering why you have no sales.

Cherry picking unusual sales to justify your bad decisions.

People "reporting" their "unreported" sales to justifuly their bad decisions 😏

You live and hopefully you learn, but most will *NEVER... EVER* learn, regardless of experience. Don't waste your time arguing with them. I'm done.
Who exactly are you speaking to ? Or What ?
 
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You missed some from just last report. Or am I not seeing your point ? Not enough money ?

SulAmericaSaude.com @ 14,999
bringtheenergy.com @ 4,899
headphoneshop.com @ 2,000
playgroundindustries.com @ 2,795
autohobbyshop.com @ 2,695
racewayautogroup.com @ 2,395
therealestatevault.com @ 3,195
fastfoodsecrets.com @ 2,500
Money is money. Sale is a sale. I'm not trying to get anyone to buy them. Just don't ignore the data.

Folks said a lot about hyphen names but look at the sales. Same with double dot's. And yet I see name sales in the charts with both. I just don't think anyone should ignore data. Most talk about all of this from the gut, not their head.
Wishing does not make it so. One could argue exception not rule, but you can look back and they have always been there. I know since I have been watching them grow in number for more than the last decade.
So, they were just some quick examples anyone could look at/for.

I'm just pointing out what some are not looking for or at. That's all.
We all can judge for ourselves if it's a risk to high as that depends on the exact name anyway. And demand in the sector, or what the demand might be later, so it's still a predictive thing.
You pays your money and ya takes your choice.

I will note that the one you pointed to was nothing more than adding the word 'THE' to an existing name.
therealestatevault.com
Goes to my exact point. When the 'one less word' was not available at any price, what then ?
Real estate was always strong in domains. But that is a 4 word'r ! Longtail and all.
Reminds me when i and e were being used in the same way. And I doubt that is over with. It's what I think about every time I see a commercial for iHair LOL

Clearly they show better than XR in domains. And if that sector was vivid in our niche, we would already see sales to end users. But I don't see them. When ? Everyone has been promoting the term like they have something to gain if we all start using it for more than 4 years now. Using the term does not translate into a domain need. No matter how many times it is posted to news blogs or shows in a google search result. It could be important if it shows in a high quantity of 'user searches' on google. (data the user submits to find something)
So, that remains to be seen. It's a SEO thing.

10 years ago the term was 5D or 9D and where are they now? Thousands of names sold using the term.
Investor frenzy.
As I remember it, there were 2 Chinese co's that used it in domains and that is what started it.
We all play gut feelings sometimes, just don't ignore the data when you do.

LOL, that's the end of my sermon !
 
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Of course I'm not "trying to say there were no 3 word sales this year". I don't know how you got that impression.

I'm not saying that they are generally worthless either.

I was explaining something and there was a disagreement. Your equating that as childish or a "fighting" misses the very purpose of discussion forums. Disagreements happen guy. And I'm even giving people space to disagree.

I Have been referring to the stupid stuff from the past many pages back. They know who they are. Or were you one of them? I did not read them all.

But, for you, know that you do cross the line when you go past a simple disagreement and speak to anyone's credibility.
That is reading far past a disagreement on comment.
Does not look good. And there can be no good will in it. It's like picking a fight. That is what you were doing.
I would rather ignore you for that, but only to the point it becomes trolling.

I will defend any user from bad acts. And have. And this has been a very open thread.

I try to keep things going when the well is dry as well as when flooded.
For that we have one of the top 10 enduring threads.

Enjoyment of it starts with your actions. There are other threads.

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Apple hits record high one week after announcing Vision Pro VR headset

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/12/app...k-after-announcing-vision-pro-vr-headset.html


I did notice that they did not say XR. But I did not expect them to do that. But they did not say AR either.

While mixed reality may better describe it, most of the software for the first few years anyway will be predominately VR.

As anticipated, it looks likely the VR term is very sticky. But there is lots of time yet to see how it pans out.

It could very well shift over longer periods with the software. After all, mixed reality software dev is only just starting.

And much of it is built from or on VR development platforms. It remains to be seen just how they will put the environment sensor API's in the devkits for AR/MR.

But wow a $3T company. I remember when the national debt was smaller than that LOL (guess I'm old)

I think they can afford some more really good R&D. I expect to see a lot more of Apple Silicon going forward.
 
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I don't think we've discussed the future terminology for a while. I read an article today where the guy behind the Lynx headset states that he believes the term 'mixed reality' will win out :

https://mixed-news.com/en/lynx-r1-full-launch-not-until-the-end-of-february-2023/

The guy that ownee all the best MR is Saying MR is not gonna work.

Mixed Reality is going to be known, and some companies will use it but the acronym won't work.
I still own the best mixedreality+keyword names.

We will have what we have now

XR
Metaverse
VR
AR


Etc.
 
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Mind F**k Pro.

Opps!
 
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