Holo vs VR vs MR vs AR vs any other reality (All realities)

[VRdommy]

Intel Project Alloy - A Must Read
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3108...first-open-source-third-party-vr-headset.html

The pace of change with new VR product designs is about to increase exponentially.
And while this is one thing to move that along, it's not the only thing.

...MORE...
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/intel-project-alloy-vr-ar-merged-reality

 

[Winfluence]

Listen guys. XR as it's most excepted means X as a variable. Developers are the largest group of people using this term from my observation and they have the strongest influence. It's why there is still some resistance to Mixed Reality even though the term is thrown around everywhere by CEOs and journalists who mock their words.

X as a fucking variable. Non-consumer term. Once you digest these two important points all of your questions are answered.

 

[Elad n]

Do you want to really bring another stupid reality to the table? Come on now...

Cross Reality? Jesus....

cross as X means cross platform lmao

 

[Winfluence]

cross as X means cross platform lmao

There's no need for more realities just to add to the confusion. Cross is even less popular than hyper reality. Leave it alone lol....just leave it alone!

 

[Elad n]

There's no need for more realities just to add to the confusion. Cross is even less popular than hyper reality. Leave it alone lol....just leave it alone!

Ok, u dont understand what i meant. Let it go then.

 

[Kingslayer]

Patience we will know more soon.

No one knows yet lol.

Sure, no one knows what’s going to happen, but we have all these things about now WebXR, ARKit, WindowsMR just to name a few and it's all going a bit nuts.

I think there comes to a point where the whole industry has to come together (for the good of the industry) and say enough is enough, end the and let’s simplify it all and call it what it is (VR and AR).

I know you won't agree with that investing in a new term a heavily (XR) along with MR and another one in volumetric recently, but you know that's my views.

I always have to explain what AR is to people, i won't even try attempt all this other stuff

 

[Kingslayer]

No one knows what WebVR is? Devs know...even Devs who don't care about XR know what WebVR is.

I'm talking about regular people, the none nerds, the one's who just use VR/AR to have fun!

These are the people who will be mainly buying into VR/AR and regular people don't care or want to be bored to death on all the technical stuff and with that i would guess most haven't even heard of WebVR/WebXR or even care about it.

 

[VRdommy]

XR is also AI and Haptics
But not all XR contains them.
So how can it be a variable for a reality except to fit someones need for it to do so.
That describes a problem.
For everyone is interpreting it for 'as needed'... what they need it to be.
So it's not being used by everyone the same.
That spells confusion.... oh... Confusion
Developers who use it for cross-platform interfaces certainly have a need for the term.
Everyone of those developers who went to a dev convention in the last 8 months where the term was pushed, have taken it on themselves to use it at random as needed for their need.
Not realizing what they have done is against their own best interest.
And that TM that describes what it is, is meaningless if it is not defended.. And will be (meaningless).
I thought the reason for the TM was to control the term so that it was used correctly.

Those that created the mess can fix the mess.
But I will continue to find more promising name investments than those with that term.
I have done very well with 4L's this year. Paid for all renewals and some pocket cash to vacation on.
Treated everyone at the local speakeasy to a XR (LOL) experience along with a few rounds of drinks.
But I will be happy to part with XRSmartGlasses when a XR buyer finds the market...LOL...
guess what... I don't care how he/she uses it !
I am about profits, and what's more important, that I have them.
Don't lose sight of the end game !

 

[Winfluence]

I also think it's understood that even the domainers investing in consumer keyword XR domains understand that XR isn't a consumer term yet, but are taking the risk anyway.

All this debating is pointless if the only argument against XR is that consumers won't get it. That's old news. The XR industry in general gets this, which is why you will continue to see new companies branding themselves as AR and VR...in addition to the few that will brand with XR.

But just like I said earlier, 2 to 3 years ago it was considered incorrect to call 360 experiences VR, but now it's common place...even within consumer marketing to call 360 "virtual reality", because it's easier for consumers to generalize. It's not impossible that XR could be that next generalization to spare consumers from having to keep up with all the R's. It could be a huge long shot and who knows... But for now, XR is strictly an industry term.

 

[Elad n]

XR is also AI and Haptics
But not all XR contains them.
So how can it be a variable for a reality except to fit someones need for it to do so.
That describes a problem.
For everyone is interpreting it for 'as needed'... what they need it to be.
So it's not being used by everyone the same.
That spells confusion.... oh... Confusion
Developers who use it for cross-platform interfaces certainly have a need for the term.
Everyone of those developers who went to a dev convention in the last 8 months where the term was pushed, have taken it on themselves to use it at random as needed for their need.
Not realizing what they have done is against their own best interest.
And that TM that describes what it is, is meaningless if it is not defended.. And will be.
I thought the reason for the TM was to control the term so that it was used correctly.

Those that created the mess can fix the mess.
But I will continue to find more promising name investments than those with that term.
I have done very well with 4L's this year. Paid for all renewals and some pocket cash to vacation on.
Treated everyone at the local speakeasy to a XR (LOL) experience along with a few rounds of drinks.
But I will be happy to part with XRSmartGlasses when a XR buyer finds the market...LOL...
guess what... I don't care how he/she uses it !
I am about profits, and what's more important, that I have them.
Don't lose sight of the end game !

Im about patience lol.

Reason for the TM was that no one else will get it and defend the term from others using it.

 

[Winfluence]

XR is also AI and Haptics
But not all XR contains them.
So how can it be a variable for a reality except to fit someones need for it to do so.
That describes a problem.
For everyone is interpreting it for 'as needed'... what they need it to be.
So it's not being used by everyone the same.
That spells confusion.... oh... Confusion
Developers who use it for cross-platform interfaces certainly have a need for the term.
Everyone of those developers who went to a dev convention in the last 8 months where the term was pushed, have taken it on themselves to use it at random as needed for their need.
Not realizing what they have done is against their own best interest.
And that TM that describes what it is, is meaningless if it is not defended.. And will be.
I thought the reason for the TM was to control the term so that it was used correctly.

Those that created the mess can fix the mess.
But I will continue to find more promising name investments than those with that term.
I have done very well with 4L's this year. Paid for all renewals and some pocket cash to vacation on.
Treated everyone at the local speakeasy to a XR (LOL) experience along with a few rounds of drinks.
But I will be happy to part with XRSmartGlasses when a XR buyer finds the market...LOL...
guess what... I don't care how he/she uses it !
I am about profits, and what's more important, that I have them.
Don't lose sight of the end game !

You seem to be stuck on the Extended Reality definition, because you keep thinking that theres some kind of rule requiring a tech to have either this or either that when it's actually more general and loose than that.

 

[Winfluence]

I also think it's understood that even the domainers investing in consumer keyword XR domains understand that XR isn't a consumer term yet, but are taking the risk anyway.

All this debating is pointless if the only argument against XR is that consumers won't get it. That's old news. The XR industry in general gets this, which is why you will continue to see new companies branding themselves as AR and VR...in addition to the few that will brand with XR.

But just like I said earlier, 2 to 3 years ago it was considered incorrect to call 360 experiences VR, but now it's common place...even within consumer marketing to call 360 "virtual reality", because it's easier for consumers to generalize. It's not impossible that XR could be that next generalization to spare consumers from having to keep up with all the R's. It could be a huge long shot and who knows... But for now, XR is strictly an industry term.

(Edited and corrected)

 

[Elad n]

XR doesn't necessarily mean cross platform either. Could simply mean that you provide completely separate services or products on different platforms...

Agreed

 

[VRdommy]

Look you guys can't even agree on what it means among yourselves so stop trying to convince me.
I know what I see. Confusion.
I was at one of those dev conferences that presented it. I know what I was told.
Someone better get control of what it means before anyone starts using it as their brand.

 

[Winfluence]

Look you guys can't even agree on what it means among yourselves so stop trying to convince me.
I know what I see. Confusion.
I was at one of those dev conferences that presented it. I know what I was told.
Someone better get control of what it means before anyone starts using it as their brand.

I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just trying to stop the spread of misinformation.

 

[Winfluence]

Look you guys can't even agree on what it means among yourselves so stop trying to convince me.
I know what I see. Confusion.
I was at one of those dev conferences that presented it. I know what I was told.
Someone better get control of what it means before anyone starts using it as their brand.

And I did already mention this concern before I this thread if you'd remember. It could happen with any technological term... There are many examples and it's out of anyone's hands what CEOs do regardless if there is an established definition or not.... I think you know this already.....

 

[Elad n]

XR unlike MR is very popular with domainers/tech companies and developers.
no one trying to convince you , i think you started talking about it lol and get answers.
i think we bette talk about xr in the other thread then

 

[VRdommy]

I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just trying to stop the spread of misinformation.

...LOL... Just point us to the correct info !

 

[MetaverseBranding]

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[Winfluence]

...LOL... Just point us to the correct info !

Do your own research? You think I came to these conclusions and theories from just a couple of links I can just "point" you to??

Have an open mind. Think more flexibly and understand that there are no absolute set of rules with this sort of thing as you've been struggling to understand. XR, at least as it is used to mean XReality is more loose, flexible and not nearly as pedantic as you are trying to make it...which is why it works so well in its most popular use cases (intra-industry)

 

[Winfluence]

On a pure domain investment level, XR has its place. Whatever it stands for- it does fill a gap as an all inclusive term and where there is a gap there is profit to be made. I do think it will some what limited in scope and stand by the idea that only certain types of names will succeed. i.e b2b, news, etc. Random sexy keywords won't cut it no matter how premium they may have been in other niches imo. Did I invest in XR? Yes. Am I a confident investor? No. Does what I think matter? No not really lol... only recorded and repeatable sales does. IMO there's not enough of a need for me to spend real money in this niche given alternative vehicles in the domaining world. But on a pure speculation level.... I think it's worth the risk. I've increased my holdings to 30 or so but mostly for keywords I have top position in VR or AR. I'm rooting for XR. I'm big on aesthetics when it comes to domaining and XR has always attracted me... just not holding my breath and tampering expectations with experience.

Wise words...

 

[VRdommy]

Do your own research? You think I came to these conclusions and theories from just a couple of links I can just "point" you to??

Have an open mind. Think more flexibly and understand that there are no absolute set of rules with this sort of thing as you've been struggling to understand. XR, at least as it is used to mean XReality is more loose, flexible and not nearly as pedantic as you are trying to make it...which is why it works so well in its most popular use cases (intra-industry)

I did my own research ! Hence my opinion of it !
Sorry you do not like it or agree.
But no matter what you say it is... it is confusing because everyone is not on the same page with it.

 

[Winfluence]

I did my own research ! Hence my opinion of it !
Sorry you do not like it or agree.
But no matter what you say it is... it is confusing because everyone is not on the same page with it.

We're mostly on the same page... Don't let Elad's little "Cross" contamination confuse you.

I don't want to speak for others but the general consensus among domainers seems to be that it's mostly an industry term at the moment but some if us may be more hopeful that it will become a consumer term than others...but regardless we are all investing in at least a few consumer terms. Some key words like "home" can be both B2B and consumer, so it's not black and white.

 

[Winfluence]

$7.5 k offer on adult ar domain name but too far apart will hold longer

That's what I'm talking about...

 

[Winfluence]

Hint the non ar version sold for $8 888 888

Sounds nice. Wise move!

 

[cordoba]

$7.5 k offer on adult ar domain name but too far apart will hold longer

Presumably that's not a reseller (unless LucidDomains, lol). That would be interesting as there is still no ar smut sites out there yet.