HELP! Registered a .com too good to be available!

[Ten10]

Update:

Googled a lot on this domain and searched the US trademark database. Can't find any known issues or trademarks or udrp, so either there is nothing or I am missing something too obvious.

Maybe the previous owner could not monetize, which does not seem to difficult. Just few hours of brainstorming resulted in easy too implement idea, so I am building a website with it.

I still can't believe the domain was not taken after being dropped!

Thanks everyone for your input. I did learn how to estimate traffic.

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I accidentally came across a two keyword (kw1kw2.com) .com, which I think was too good not to be registered. I was researching some keywords for registering a .com and this related .com showed up as available.

kw1 and kw2 are both generic words

Before registering, I did a check in USA trademark database, kw1kw2 nor 'kw1+ space + kw2' is trademarked, neither in singular or plural.

I googled for kw1kw2.com udrp, nothing came up.

I googled for kw1kw2 trademark, nothing came up.

The keyword combo is fairly popular but I don't know how much traffic it gets.

The plural .com with kw2 plural, kw1kw2s.com, is an active website.

Alexa does not have enough data on either .com's

Both, the singular and the plural .com's, were first registered about 10 years ago.

The plural .com comes up on page 1 for kw1 kw2 search for all three, google/yahoo/bing.

but .net and .org are still available for both singular or plural!

I am frankly very surprised this .com is available, even if it is singular.

I am no expert and so would appreciate your help.

Apart from googling, how do I check if this .com was dropped due to problems?

My understanding is a domain would not be available if earlier it was under trademark or udrp dispute, right?

How do I check traffic for these keywords or for the plural .com website.

Do you find it surprising that a popular singular two keyword .com is not registered when its plural comes up on page 1 search results?

Could this domain so worthless that no one wants it!

I don't want to waste my $10 on a domain no one wants, as I could buy 10 .com's with Godaddy's $1 coupons ( then I will have 10 worthless .com's! )

Without knowing the domain name, based on your experience, would suggest keeping the domain?

 

[Domainerr]

You can use google Keyword planner to find the traffic. I don"t think it would be worth registering because u mentioned keyword2 with plural is already registered, if keyword2 with singular is worth registering then the owner of plural domain name will register that too..

 

[ioana_bv]

You xan register the domain and ask for refund within a week or so. So go and register that domain.

 

[Ten10]

You can use google Keyword planner to find the traffic.

Thanks!

Looks like keywords combos avg monthly searches of about 20K/month.

 

[FX]

it's hard to say without knowing the name!

Why not register it using a $0.99 GD coupon you seems to be happy to find such a domain.

Good Luck

 

[iowadawg]

There are literally thousands of domains that are two and three keywords long.
All just waiting to be registered.

Unless you have some development plans for this domain, leave it alone.
Reselling would be a bust.

 

[Nappy Bunch]

Use a coupon and reg it.. Then ask in appraisal section.. Worth a punt

 

[drifter2]

The only reason not to register a name that has big searches and big commercial potential is not having $2. If that is the case then don't reg. Otherwise line up some end users and reg it!

 

[Domainerr]

Thanks!

Looks like keywords combos avg monthly searches of about 20K/month.

That is Broad Search, use brackets [ ] to find the exact searches for your keyword..

Regards,
Hashif

 

[Ten10]

Why not register it using a $0.99 GD coupon you seems to be happy to find such a domain.

I don't have any low-cost discount code left now and did not want to pay extra for whois privacy, so I registered the domain for $10 at another registrar.

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There are literally thousands of domains that are two and three keywords long.
All just waiting to be registered.

Unless you have some development plans for this domain, leave it alone.
Reselling would be a bust.

I registered the domain coz I liked the keywords. I was surprised it is available. Did not buy with intent to resell. Was just wondering why no one else had registered it, considering the keyword combo is ever green, and the domain name makes it easy to remember what the site is about! Google trend shows about constant average traffic every year for last 4 years with seasonal jumps.

Figured out a plan for building a site.

 

[gilescoley]

Can we see it now?

 

[Kamikaze]

Can we see it now?

+1

I'm also curious...

 

[Bannen]

I suspect it's a trademarked term; can't see a term with that high search numbers not being snatched up by a dropcatcher, at least a few people use custom software to find any upcoming deleting domains that have healthy search numbers and then they order them thru 'catchers.

Just because you searched the TM database for keyword1Keyword2, whether words together or separate, does not mean your term is safe. For example, if you search trademarks for something like 'google mogul', no trademarks will come up. Yet google is very much a trademark and this term could only be registered in bad faith.

For a term like yours, with high search numbers, in dot.com, to not be snapped up by others upon dropping, I suspect a TM issue.

Now that you've regged it, let us know the name and we'll solve the mystery

 

[Ten10]

if you search trademarks for something like 'google mogul', no trademarks will come up. Yet google is very much a trademark and this term could only be registered in bad faith.

You know sometimes, you get on a crowded bus and there is an empty seat! You wonder what's wrong, did a baby poop on or under it? No one takes the seat, even if it is perfectly fine. I think same thing happened here!

I was thinking along the same lines as you but both keywords are too generic. Both so common we use each separately everyday. I have spent hours searching for trademark/udrp but nothing comes up.

Each keyword by itself can not be trademarked, too generic and the combo is not trademarked, at the least, not in USA.

Also, if kw1kw2 was trademarked anywhere, the plural website would not be up.

a term with that high search numbers

20K/month is for broad search worldwide combining for all variations of kw1+kw2, singular/plural. I might not be checking this correctly.

For a newbie like me, just the keywords are good enough to build the site

I am aware the search engines no longer give much value to keywords in the domain and thats ok.

For me, the most value comes from how searchers will related to domain when it comes up in search results. Hopefully next time they are searching for kw1 kw2, they will type, the easy to remember, kw1kw2.com directly.

It will take a lot of effort to rank on page 1, even if it happens!

+1

I'm also curious...

Sorry, as much as I would like to let my best cat out of the bag, I should keep it under the radar for now. I hope everyone understands and I do appreciate everyone's input.

 

[Bannen]

20K/month is for broad search worldwide combining for all variations of kw1+kw2, singular/plural. I might not be checking this correctly

I think that solves the mystery. Broad searches are meaningless and wildly inflated. Even a term that receives hundreds of thousands of broad monthly searches might only receive a few hundred exact searches. If your term receives 20K broad, it probably only gets around 50 - 200 monthly searches tops. Maybe even less.

Believe me, a non-TM term that gets 20K exact monthly searches would not become available for you to hand reg. It would have been scooped in an expiring domain auction, or scooped via a dropcatcher the millisecond it deleted. Your term is probably valueless, even if the plur is developed. If you have any question, welcome to PM the name to me, I won't publish it here or 'scoop' any similar domains on you, and I'll give you the accurate stats on your domain.