domain Heart.Surgery

[Alessandro Couteau]

Premium GTLD
Estibot Value on Heart.Surgery is $14,000
Estibot Value on HeartSurgery.com is $71,000

I think this name is along the same lines of Coffee.Club

Curious to hear other opinions on the value and the intrinsic value

Update : Close to one hundred people view this one posting everyday ... It's insane ! My intelligent responses are on page 10 & 11 but for the first 5 or 6 pages I was defending my investment for anybody who maybe curious ...

 

[Brands.International]

Very good name, stick to your price, it will pay off. I do not agree at all with 'reg fee' type of comments, many people who 'appraised' here like this does not invest in new gTLDs at all (in most cases they missed the boat) and have no real experience whatsoever with them. The name is an absolute keeper. Sheer volume of this tread shows how much interested in has generated. And it will be funny to post here once you sell it, so these 'experts' can then say how wrong they were - which they will never do anyway, but then, who cares Good luck!

 

[disaac81]

Right side of the dot does not count in terms of seo, so the name is quite restricted in it's use. And as a brand it is just non inspiring and dull.

This is why it is better to understand the use of these rather than always think it is amazing just because it is a term \ thing.

Anyway, it is not awful and it is 'ok'.

 

[Brands.International]

Right side of the dot does not count in terms of seo...

1. at the moment
2. and nobody can really confirm this is indeed the case..as new gTLDs are taking up more and more, seo will change gradually to better reflect this..google and others needs to keep up with the changes, and they are/will do it in their own pace, to deliver most relevant search results to the audience..this is one thing we can be sure about.

 

[disaac81]

Google will not change it as a gtld is exactly that, a gtld.

For example, the .london gtld will not benefit in anyway in geo terms for london.

Just stick the common sense, a .com or a cctld for business purposes, and a .ngtld for niche uses such as product promotion \ internal use etc.

For example, a company on yellow dot com could use yellow.cloud for it's partners to access quickly and use as a self propagating tool. But you would not use yellow.cloud as your main brand presence, since you would look rather limited, small and irrelevant. Project yourself properly, stand to gain from connecting the dots (literally almost) in the neurological path of the consumer. After all, decisions we make are 80% driven by our subconscious.

Nearly every naming company agrees, new gtlds are faddy, and should be used as such.

 

[Brands.International]

Google will not change it as a gtld is exactly that, a gtld.

For example, the .london gtld will not benefit in anyway in geo terms for london.

Just stick the common sense, a .com or a cctld for business purposes, and a .ngtld for niche uses such as product promotion \ internal use etc.

For example, a company on yellow dot com could use yellow.cloud for it's partners to access quickly and use as a self propagating tool. But you would not use yellow.cloud as your main brand presence, since you would look rather limited, small and irrelevant. Project yourself properly, stand to gain from connecting the dots (literally almost) in the neurological path of the consumer. After all, decisions we make are 80% driven by our subconscious.

Nearly every naming company agrees, new gtlds are faddy, and should be used as such.

How do you know what google will or will not do? They need to deliver best possible results to end user..when there will be many .london webs in future, it is clear that google will need to take this into consideration, otherwise it would miss important webs in its search. Google will be also one of the biggest registrar and re seller of new gTLDs in very near future.

Idea for using new GTLDs for niche is also something which is not correct. Some companies might use it for promotions, etc, while more and more companies now adopts new gTLDs for their main venues and this adoption will just increase.

 

[biggie]

it's a good pairing of terms

and, if there's any traffic/rev to pay for the $41 a month lease fee, then you're all good till the right buyer comes along.


imo....

 

[disaac81]

@lolwarrior You are trying to predict the future and are wrong.

Just as .com has no affect for searching for com, just as .net has no affect for searching for net.

You see, the tld part of the domain name is just that, it is and never will be part of the search string.

 

[Alessandro Couteau]

@lolwarrior You are trying to predict the future and are wrong.

Just as .com has no affect for searching for com, just as .net has no affect for searching for net.

You see, the tld part of the domain name is just that, it is and never will be part of the search string.

Look who opened this thread back up ... I would say "never" is a strong word disaac81 !

But I am not aiming for SEO ... I was only furious with the individuals who were aiming to put Gtlds in the trash ... I am not here to argue with anyone ... But like I said previously, Gtlds are becoming more present with much more large companies and are being used as such ...
20 years is young for a market like this one !

Heart.Surgery is a keyword rich two word combo of which can attract traffic alone and traffic from a hired SEO ...

I didn't present this name for an enduser to adopt it ! We had discussed briefly rerouting domains and I believe that's one of the best cases to be made for this ! If you own FranklinHeartSpecialist.com and you want an easier way for people to find you and most people when in need look up "Heart Surgeon" or "Heart Surgery" ... They don't look up Franklin or Roger ... They don't care about names in the domain / they can google the clinic to check if it's credible or not ! They simply want to have a good and healthy heart ... Few words, heart.surgery ...

I also enjoyed the ideas of a support and donation site ... But truth be told I don't believe it's time for this name to reach the heights I concluded ~ $XXX,XXX !

There will be a time for Gtlds and some will win and some will lose !
There is no doubt about this ...
.surgery is new of course but I would add that if you wanted to prove to anyone about Gtlds and the interest they conceive then just peek at this thread ! The views are staggering !

For now, I sit in silence ... When you hunt, the most important thing is to keep silent ! For anyone who adds to this thread, I appreciate you taking the time to do so and wish you a wonderful day and or night !

Just bought some more Gtlds and they are "investment worthy" in my mind ... Not related to a medical industry but another billion dollar industry ! Time will tell if I decide to share ...

Thanks

Regards,
Alessandro

 

[Casey L]

Look who opened this thread back up ... I would say "never" is a strong word disaac81 !

But I am not aiming for SEO ... I was only furious with the individuals who were aiming to put Gtlds in the trash ... I am not here to argue with anyone ... But like I said previously, Gtlds are becoming more present with much more large companies and are being used as such ...
20 years is young for a market like this one !

Heart.Surgery is a keyword rich two word combo of which can attract traffic alone and traffic from a hired SEO ...

I didn't present this name for an enduser to adopt it ! We had discussed briefly rerouting domains and I believe that's one of the best cases to be made for this ! If you own FranklinHeartSpecialist.com and you want an easier way for people to find you and most people when in need look up "Heart Surgeon" or "Heart Surgery" ... They don't look up Franklin or Roger ... They don't care about names in the domain / they can google the clinic to check if it's credible or not ! They simply want to have a good and healthy heart ... Few words, heart.surgery ...

I also enjoyed the ideas of a support and donation site ... But truth be told I don't believe it's time for this name to reach the heights I concluded ~ $XXX,XXX !

There will be a time for Gtlds and some will win and some will lose !
There is no doubt about this ...
.surgery is new of course but I would add that if you wanted to prove to anyone about Gtlds and the interest they conceive then just peek at this thread ! The views are staggering !

For now, I sit in silence ... When you hunt, the most important thing is to keep silent ! For anyone who adds to this thread, I appreciate you taking the time to do so and wish you a wonderful day and or night !

Just bought some more Gtlds and they are "investment worthy" in my mind ... Not related to a medical industry but another billion dollar industry ! Time will tell if I decide to share ...

Thanks

Regards,
Alessandro

The gtlds aren't what people are interested by, I assure you

 

[Brands.International]

@lolwarrior You are trying to predict the future and are wrong.

Just as .com has no affect for searching for com, just as .net has no affect for searching for net.

You see, the tld part of the domain name is just that, it is and never will be part of the search string.

Sure it will affect, there is no way around it.

Look, even today, when you are travelling and are visiting for example Spain, and you search for something - you will get lot of webpages with .es. If you are in France and searching for the same term, you are getting lot of results with .fr. Etc, etc. Why is that? Because google is aiming to bring you best end user experience, so it gives you geo targeted results. When you look for "surf", it is aiming to bring you closest shops with surf equipment or closest surfing schools.

In future, when more and more business will be developed at new gTLDs, search engines will need to take new gTLDs also into consideration..what is that? Because they need to bring you most relevant results, and they need to consider semantic meaning of TLD..so for example sites developed under .yoga, will with highest probability contains webpages related to yoga, .accountant TLD will be mostly about accountants, etc. It will be kind of analogy with geo targeting which is actually happening with today's ccTLDs.

Yes, agreed, .COM and .NET are not used in search algorithms ..but why is that? Because they does not have any semantic meaning, they were historically chosen as TLDs under most webpages operated under now.

Cheers.
lolwarrior

 

[Kate]

Look, even today, when you are travelling and are visiting for example Spain, and you search for something - you will get lot of webpages with .es. If you are in France and searching for the same term, you are getting lot of results with .fr. Etc, etc. Why is that? Because google is aiming to bring you best end user experience, so it gives you geo targeted results.

It's because ccTLDs are heavily used (at least popular ccTLDs) and relevant to your location ie when surfing from France you may get more .fr sites. Unfortunately new extensions do not enjoy similar popularity.

In future, when more and more business will be developed at new gTLDs, search engines will need to take new gTLDs also into consideration..what is that? Because they need to bring you most relevant results, and they need to consider semantic meaning of TLD..so for example sites developed under .yoga, will with highest probability contains webpages related to yoga,

There are 6K .yoga registered, half of which are parked. What are the odds you will stumble on a .yoga domain while doing a search ?

Search engines rank websites based on contents and popularity, not on extension. They have no interest in boosting a particular extension, if there isn't good contents.

You said it yourself, there has to be development. There is not a lot of development in new extensions. There is no shortage of small sites but not a lot of authoritative ones. And so-called legacy extensions are outgrowing new extensions so I do not expect new extensions to become more popular at least in relative terms.

 

[JB Lions]

It's been out over 2 years. Hovering around 2,000 regs.

Reported sales? 0 at Namebio, 5 at dnprices:

painless.surgery - $6
orthopedic.surgery - $1
painfree.surgery - $1
rhinoplasty.surgery - $1
vein.surgery- $1

Here is one of those auctions, $1 - https://flippa.com/5354132-rhinoplasty-surgery

Total price amount in this set of 5 domain name sales is 10.00 USD; average price is 2.00 USD.

http://dnpric.es/?q=.surgery

 

[Brands.International]

It's because ccTLDs are heavily used (at least popular ccTLDs) and relevant to your location ie when surfing from France you may get more .fr sites. Unfortunately new extensions do not enjoy similar popularity.

There are 6K .yoga registered, half of which are parked. What are the odds you will stumble on a .yoga domain while doing a search ?

Search engines rank websites based on contents and popularity, not on extension. They have no interest in boosting a particular extension, if there isn't good contents.

You said it yourself, there has to be development. There is not a lot of development in new extensions. There is no shortage of small sites but not a lot of authoritative ones. And so-called legacy extensions are outgrowing new extensions so I do not expect new extensions to become more popular at least in relative terms.

Sure, at the moment this is what situation is. But I am discussing future development of search algorithms, and explained why in future TLDs will need to be taken into consideration. Actually there might not be that need now because most gTLDs are 1-2 years old, but as more and more sites will be developed at new gTLDs, the need will arrive. And once it will arrive (3-4 years imo), search algorithms will be updated. Once they will be updated, .com and .net importance will suffer, while ccTLDs probably will not suffer. Why? Because both ccTLDs and new gTLDs have some meaning, ccTLDs are geo oriented, new gTDLs are category/object oriented. .COM and .NET are just historical defaults, with no geo and no semantic meaning there.

It will still of course be the case that content and popularity will play major part in search importance (it is logical), but now we are discussing purely domain names here.

 

[TopShelf Domains]

It's been out over 2 years. Hovering around 2,000 regs.

Reported sales? 0 at Namebio, 5 at dnprices:

painless.surgery - $6
orthopedic.surgery - $1
painfree.surgery - $1
rhinoplasty.surgery - $1
vein.surgery- $1

Here is one of those auctions, $1 - https://flippa.com/5354132-rhinoplasty-surgery

Total price amount in this set of 5 domain name sales is 10.00 USD; average price is 2.00 USD.

http://dnpric.es/?q=.surgery

Gotta say I stopped using Flippa. If you do not purchase upgrades you get like 15 views. If you start a 1$ no reserve, you are screwed.

 

[Brands.International]

It's been out over 2 years. Hovering around 2,000 regs.

Reported sales? 0 at Namebio, 5 at dnprices:

painless.surgery - $6
orthopedic.surgery - $1
painfree.surgery - $1
rhinoplasty.surgery - $1
vein.surgery- $1

Here is one of those auctions, $1 - https://flippa.com/5354132-rhinoplasty-surgery

Total price amount in this set of 5 domain name sales is 10.00 USD; average price is 2.00 USD.

http://dnpric.es/?q=.surgery

I can assure you that almost no one is going to report publicly their really big sales in gTLDs in this venues. Many ".com people" think that because there are now 1000 new gTLDS, you have unlimited choice in your buying. The truth is, for really good names it is extremely competitive area, only few really good combos are available per gTLD, and people who are making good investments and sales there are not going to show you what names are really selling, as there is no need for competition. Buying is still ongoing. Not only private investors, also registries woke up and protecting good names. I was privately discussing this with several gTLDs investors, and only 1 of them wants to report his sales there (to promote awareness of gTLDs, he is a really nice guy) while all others were like "no way, we do not want competition. And I for sure understand this.

So if you take seriously stats there, it is funny

 

[Brands.International]

Gotta say I stopped using Flippa. If you do not purchase upgrades you get like 15 views. If you start a 1$ no reserve, you are screwed.

Always put reserve there, otherwise you are reallu screwed there. Just recently I got there fantastic name for 1 USD..I think the seller had to be pretty unhappy about that, but he did not put reserve..I was almost sorry for him

 

[DU]

Sure, at the moment this is what situation is. But I am discussing future development of search algorithms,

If you think search algorithms of the future care more than one iota about a domain name you're probably wrong.

 

[Brands.International]

If you think search algorithms of the future care more than one iota about a domain name you're probably wrong.

Why?

 

[DU]

Always put reserve there, otherwise you are reallu screwed there. Just recently I got there fantastic name for 1 USD..I think the seller had to be pretty unhappy about that, but he did not put reserve..I was almost sorry for him

Dang.. and everyone else missed it.

 

[Brands.International]

Dang.. and everyone else missed it.

Believe it or not..exactly - everyone else missed it.

 

[DU]

Why?

Because the domain name is among the least important criteria for decent search results?

 

[TopShelf Domains]

Dang.. and everyone else missed it.

Because the domain name is among the least important criteria for decent search results?

I always look at the domain before clicking results.

I can't be the only one.

 

[Brands.International]

@DU
Yes, at the moment. When you have majority of content on .COM and .NET, there is no need to differentiate using TLD.

 

[DU]

@DU
Yes, at the moment. When you have majority of content on .COM and .NET, there is no need to differentiate using TLD.

I think you missed the point.

 

[JB Lions]

I can assure you that almost no one is going to report publicly their really big sales in gTLDs in this venues. Many ".com people" think that because there are now 1000 new gTLDS, you have unlimited choice in your buying. The truth is, for really good names it is extremely competitive area, only few really good combos are available per gTLD, and people who are making good investments and sales there are not going to show you what names are really selling, as there is no need for competition. Buying is still ongoing. Not only private investors, also registries woke up and protecting good names. I was privately discussing this with several gTLDs investors, and only 1 of them wants to report his sales there (to promote awareness of gTLDs, he is a really nice guy) while all others were like "no way, we do not want competition. And I for sure understand this.

So if you take seriously stats there, it is funny

"There" is the only place they've sold and on average $2. There are other venues where they are up for sale, no sales. And if you're a domain investor with some of those extensions, and had big sales, of course you would report it here, it can only help the other names you have. If he sold heart.surgery for the 6 figures he's dreaming of, he's going to report it here. And if other people who invest in new gtlds get big sales, they're going to report it here. Most don't want to report sales, because when they do get them, they're not that big. Yet, how many people here have sold .surgery domains and how much?