Got a "F*ck You" response from a domainer

[MapleDots]

I made a number of inquiries on domain names lately and am still shocked how many domainers do not respond to an inquiry. Granted I did not open with a price, I always ask what are you looking to get for the domain. I end by saying I am very interested and please do not ignore my inquiry.

In the last month I have sent 6 inquiries and received only two responses and one response ended in a sale. So from 6 domains one was what I would call a great transaction and the other one at least an attempt for a sale.

That said, I have a tendency to send the inquiry at least twice and this month I send the following to 4 of my inquiries. that failed to respond.

Hello. I made several attempts to start dialogue to purchase domain.com and have received no response from you. I stated both times that I was very interested in the domain and would appreciate either a call or email back. At this point I will terminate any negotiation on this domain and wish you well in your endeavors. That said, I was very interested in your domain and it is your loss not to have responded. As a domainer myself I feel this is very poor business management on your behalf.

Got one response back from a domainer

Was two words

Guess what they were?

"F*ck You"

Wow.... just wow

 

[MapleDots]

Run a poll here regarding content of your email that you quoted in your OP.
Ask if they thought you were rude or not rude and something in between perhaps.
Something along those lines.

I'm betting 200 bananas that your NOT going to get a positive result.

I never said I was not rude, it was meant to be rude. I said he was a fool for not attempting the sale. He let his ego get ahead of the possibility of a sale.

Take a poll and ask if that is ok.

If the answer is yes then I'm dealing with idiots and domaining is for fools.

 

[trap3]

btw - You said in OP you sent 6 emails and got only 2 replies. I would say thats pretty good going !
Thats 1 in 3 !

There's a good chance that 2 in 3 could of gone in the recipients junk folder! So you may in fact of gotten a 100% reply rate from that small sample.

Anyway, in short, regarding your comments and OP. I think there are so many variables you are simply not seeing or/and are your emotions are incapacitating your intellect, for you to be objective here.

IMO - You simply cannot send an email like you did and NOT expect to be either ignored or be treated with hostility by the vast majority of people.

 

[trap3]

I never said I was not rude, it was meant to be rude. I said he was a fool for not attempting the sale. He let his ego get ahead of the possibility of a sale.

Take a poll and ask if that is ok.

If the answer is yes then I'm dealing with idiots and domaining is for fools.

I rest my case.

 

[MapleDots]

btw - You said in OP you sent 6 emails and got only 2 replies. I would say thats pretty good going !
Thats 1 in 3 !

There's a good chance that 2 in 3 could of gone in the recipients junk folder! So you may in fact of gotten a 100% reply rate from that small sample.

Anyway, in short, regarding your comments and OP. I think there are so many variables you are simply not seeing or/and are your emotions are incapacitating your intellect, for you to be objective here.

IMO - You simply cannot send an email like you did and NOT expect to be either ignored or be treated with hostility by the vast majority of people.

Nope read again,

How many times do I have to repeat this crap!!!

I only sent two to him and then told him he was unprofessional.
I sent 6 different domain inquiries and received only two responses from two domainers.

That is a pathetic response for an industry.

 

[trap3]

Nope read again, I only sent two to him and then told him he was unprofessional.
I sent 6 different domain inquiries and received only two responses from two domainers.

That is a pathetic response for an industry.

Seriously? I think you need to re-read. I totally got what you said.
Do i really need to explain again?

Run a poll on this one too. Q/ Do you think 6 domain inquiries and two responses from two domainers is a ? A) good response rate B) bad response rate C) Average

Then look at the results.

Like i TRIED to explain before. Out of those 6 inquiries, 4 of your emails may of gone to the persons junk folder. So you may of actually gotten a 100% reply rate.

 

[trap3]

Dude.

1) Your totally missing the point! Ask the other readers of this post. You said you sent 6 emails out and you got 2 replies and you repeatedly say thats a pathetic response rate. 33% isn't pathetic at all. It's good. Because, there are many factors to consider. Emails could of gone to junk folder (many emails do end up there you know, but you keep ignoring that fact for some reason) so they were never seen/read or recipients may just simply not liked your tone or what you had to say. Those 2 things alone could lower your response rate from 100% to 33%.

2) You spoke to this guy. A person you don't know. With an incredible amount of disrespect, and were ridiculously condescending. You can't really argue with his reply at all. You ran the risk of getting exactly that type of response. I'm not saying that his response was professional, but if you look at your emotions running riot on this thread, your going to be in state of hypocrisy soon, if not already.

 

[trap3]

And instead of berating me because you either simply cannot understand or accept what i am saying.
Run 3 polls. (example wording below)

Q/ What is your response rate for outbound inquiries ?

a) 80-100% b) 60-79% c) 40-59% d) 21-39% e) below 20%

and quote your email and ask

Q/ Was my email rude ?
a) Yes b) No

and again quote your email and ask

Q/ Do you think the response FU was
a) Warranted b) Understandable c) Funny d) Unwarranted

 

[MapleDots]

Dude.

1) Your totally missing the point! Ask the other readers of this post. You said you sent 6 emails out and you got 2 replies and you repeatedly say thats a pathetic response rate. 33% isn't pathetic at all. It's good. Because, there are many factors to consider. Emails could of gone to junk folder (many emails do end up there you know, but you keep ignoring that fact for some reason) so they were never seen/read or recipients may just simply not liked your tone or what you have to say. Those 2 things alone could lower your response rate from 100% to 33%.

2) You spoke to this guy. A person you don't know. With an incredible amount of disrespect, and were ridiculously condescending. You can't really argue with his reply at all. You ran the risk of getting exactly that type of response. I'm not saying that his response was professional, but if you look at your emotions running riot on this thread, your going to be in state of hypocrisy soon, if not already.

And you need to stay on point 2 but an accurate representation of it.

How many times do I have to say I could care less what one idiot says.
What I consider stupid is his missed opportunity of a sale on the first 2 emails when he for sure got my inquires., because when I called him out on it he lost his cool, rather than attempt a sale.

Great sales tactic

Now let me ask all the knowledgeable people on the forum if they agree with that!!

I mean really, the knowledgeable one will be laughing their asses off as they are responding courteously and professionally to inquiries while making sales.

How is that for hypocrisy?

 

[trap3]

You keep repeating yourself, but wont listen to anyone else thats making a valid point! Simply, because you disagree with it. Even when what is stated as fact.

Your really not helping yourself and just proving my point with all the tunnel vision and emotion.
Seriously chill out

Maybe your poor response rate and volatile replies are simply down to your business practice and attitude.

It's not an insult. It's an observation.

 

[tonyk2000]

In most cases, the first email is a key. When I receive an inquiry, I always "rate" it (how serious is the buyer, what is the sale probability etc.). And my response will depend on mentioned rating. There is 8-pages-long discussion in this thread already, but without an exact (I mean literally _exact_ , with all email headers - or, at least, in indication of email type - john dot doe at gmail or something more serious, timestamps, visibility of senders IP and whether this IP belongs to a residential or business dsl or free public wifi, etc. etc. etc.) it is impossible to make any conclusions or to post motivated opinion on this exact "FU case". I have no personal interest in reviewing an exact first email nor am I asking it to be posted on public forum though. Writing this just to express something that probably was not written earlier in this thread - first email and first impresson is in many cases a very serious factor.

 

[MapleDots]

Well then why respond, you have quite clearly told me that a 2 out of 6 response rate is great.

Listen if a domainer does not know how to set up their email and legitimate inquiries go to spam then they deserve what they get. What surprises me is you defending that. I have NEVER had an inquiry go to spam. Are you shitting me!! That is your defense?

OMG everyone on that list needs to either hire a secretary or find something else to do.

 

[MapleDots]

In most cases, the first email is a key. When I receive an inquiry, I always "rate" it (how serious is the buyer, what is the sale probability etc.). And my response will depend on mentioned rating. There is 8-pages-long discussion in this thread already, but without an exact (I mean literally _exact_ , with all email headers - or, at least, in indication of email type - john dot doe at gmail or something more serious, timestamps, visibility of senders IP and whether this IP belongs to a residential or business dsl or free public wifi, etc. etc. etc.) it is impossible to make any conclusions or to post motivated opinion on this exact "FU case". I have no personal interest in reviewing an exact first email nor am I asking it to be posted on public forum though. Writing this just to express something that probably was not written earlier in this thread - first email and first impresson is in many cases a very serious factor.

I dont care what impression you are implying.... please email me from my website and ask me to price a domain. I'm not worrying about if you impress me or anything similar. I will tell you xxx.xx would you like to close today.

That is how you at least attempt a sale. I cannot tell by an ip address or any perceived notion if the potential client has money or not. What matters is he inquired and could possibly lead to a sale.

 

[trap3]

Are you asking me to repeat myself yet again ?

I have stated my opinion, backed up with fact.
You've stated your opinion, backed up with toys being thrown out of your pram. Sorry.

Run the polls. And just see. What is the harm ?

And, it depends (re: junk email). Some people get so much junk, genuine email does get junked or deleted by accident.

You make too many poor assumptions when balancing your probability.
Again, sorry. But i think from all your posts thats quite clear.

 

[tonyk2000]

Somebody emailed me once he is a college student with no money but his email arrived from intranet (IP) of a fortune 100 company where I later found he is a Vice President. One should always review everything possible in connection with any particular inquiry

 

[trap3]

And actually the other day i made a sale on Afternic. The email confirmation of this went to my junk folder !
I only spotted it by chance !!

My email client is set to allow afternic as a trusted sender, but it still went to junk.

 

[MapleDots]

And actually the other day i made a sale on Afternic. The email confirmation of this went to my junk folder !
I only spotted it by chance !!

My email client is set to allow afternic as a trusted sender, but it still went to junk.

Then you need to get google apps and stay away from the free email services. If you are serious about selling you need to have all your emails. I check my spam every day, I do not lose any emails.

 

[trap3]

Im not trying to screw with you. Im trying to educate you. (hmmm, that sounds rather condescending)
Now do you see why this guy told you 'F U' ? I think others will be.

And im asking you to run polls so you can get other peoples opinions.
I don't think youve been in this business very long from your conduct on this post,
and certainly from your outbound email tactics.

And yet again you berate the 4/6 that didnt reply. Are you really that benighted that you cannot understand there could either be justifiable reasons why they didnt reply, or that they simply did not get your email!

Btw - You could always pick up the phone too.

 

[trap3]

Then you need to get google apps and stay away from the free email services. If you are serious about selling you need to have all your emails. I check my spam every day, I do not lose any emails.

How do you know i use a free email client ?
How do you know i dont already use google apps ?
Maybe i get 1000s spam every day ?

Yet again you are making very ill judged assumptions.

 

[MapleDots]

And are you really incapable of staying on my point I even highlighted it in red. You keep trying to take focus off the fact that the guy received both my inquiries before I berated him. He then lost his cool and a sale.

What is so hard about that, all the other bullcrap you're trying to goat me into is just that BULLCRAP and I don't want to waste time on it.

How many times do I have to say I could care less what one idiot says.
What I consider stupid is his missed opportunity of a sale on the first 2 emails when he for sure got my inquires., because when I called him out on it he lost his cool, rather than attempt a sale.

 

[MapleDots]

How do you know i use a free email client ?
How do you know i dont already use google apps ?
Maybe i get 1000s spam every day ?

Yet again you are making very ill judged assumptions.

Yup, I must be, I forgot I'm dealing with Mr Mike Mann here who gets thousands of spams per day