GoDaddy condones allows theft and Warning for NP user PaulV

[UD]

This is a direct email to Bob Parsons regarding the incident.

Namepros Member ImMike was paid in full from ourselves on the domain Hacked.cc .. We now have a domain missing and loose at godaddy that was stolen via a hacked / stolen credit card / paypal purchase and Godaddy and even the supervisors on staff refuse to do anything about this..

Dear Mr Parsons.. I aquired a domain name Hacked.cc from a namepros.com member in the namepros official auction on Friday. Today someone offered to buy it and it hadn't yet been pushed from [email protected] to myself [email protected] ... Instead I resold it for 125.00 to the godaddy account [email protected] .. he paid via paypal and the domain was pushed.. 5 minutes later we get an email from paypal stating
What's below. He paid for the domain using stolen credit card and now our domain is sitting in an account at godaddy. 2 people at godaddy refused to retrieve it for us and give it to the rightfull owners and we are about to post this whole incident on www.namepros.com and others very shortly as well as an alert on www.urbandata.com about godaddy's refusal to return stolen property when it's clearly sitting at the registrar. We will also file a complaint with icann and media via a press release. We have plenty of proof. Bob please do the right thing and push the domain Hacked.cc to [email protected] or back to [email protected] and ban the user [email protected]

Here is the screenshots

www.urbandata.com/untitled.bmp
www.urbandata.com/untitled2.bmp



Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 3:29 PM
Subject: PayPal Notification: Temporary Hold Pending Investigation (Routing
Code: C124-L001-Q410-T3320)




It has come to our attention that you may be the recipient of potentially
unauthorized funds. We have initiated an investigation into this event. In
the meantime, we have placed a temporary hold on the funds in question until
the investigation is complete. This temporary hold will show as a deduction
in your available balance. In the meantime, you are free to continue
transacting using your PayPal account.


Transaction Date: Jul. 15, 2006 14:35:48 PDT
Transaction Amount: $125.00 USD
Payor's Email: [email protected]





If you have not delivered the goods or services related to this transaction,
we ask that you delay or stop delivery until our investigation is complete
as you may be liable for the amount in question.

To assist us in our investigation, please send an email to
[email protected] with the following information:

1. The item, service or purpose of the purchase, and the associated value;
2. The name and address given to you by the sender (if an item was
purchased);
3. If shipped, the company used for shipping, date of shipment, and
tracking number for the shipment;
4. Details of any other transactions related to the transaction(s) in
question;
5. A phone number where you can be reached during the day and evening; and
6. Insurance information, if applicable.

Any additional information you have regarding this transaction, such as
email correspondence, will further help us to expedite our investigation.
Solving these cases helps us continue to offer PayPal as a secure and
cost-effective payment service. We appreciate your cooperation and
assistance.

Sincerely,
PayPal Account Review Team

Below is his conversation below with us during the sale.


Never give out your password or credit card number in an instant message conversation.

........: Online :............IPB says:
hey
........: Online :............IPB says:
send me link here
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
hello paul
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/4036/ssff0.jpg
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
ps i can find you any names youd like often
........: Online :............IPB says:
ok
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
being a broker and all
........: Online :............IPB says:
ok
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
paypal then?
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
screwed
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
oosp
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
[email protected] is the paypal
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
im developing that
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
for a complaint system ./ fraud alerts
........: Online :............IPB says:
forward me domain
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
not until payment
........: Online :............IPB says:
ok i will pay 1st
........: Online :............IPB says:
u get ready with all
........: Online :............IPB says:
i need it in 1 mins
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
sure it takes but a few moment
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
once paid
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
please dont do a chargeback on it... I like honest deals
........: Online :............IPB says:
what is ur paypal ?
........: Online :............IPB says:
[email protected]
........: Online :............IPB says:
not correct
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
[email protected]
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
try that
........: Online :............IPB says:
what is chargeback ?
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
it works
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
oh ok nm.. that address now works [email protected]
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:

[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
how many domains do you own?
........: Online :............IPB says:
This recipient is currently unable to receive money.
........: Online :............IPB says:
This recipient is currently unable to receive money.
........: Online :............IPB says:
This recipient is currently unable to receive money.
........: Online :............IPB says:
ur paypal is blocked
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
one second let me look
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
[email protected] then
........: Online :............IPB says:
u r not good ?
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
yeah likely means i past my sending limit
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
my other is [email protected]
........: Online :............IPB says:
there is no selling limit
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
when you arent verified yet there is
........: Online :............IPB says:
how can i trust
........: Online :............IPB says:
u r not verified
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
im working on verifying that one and [email protected]
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
with bank / cc
........: Online :............IPB says:
is this u
........: Online :............IPB says:

Payment Details

Payment Sent To: [email protected]
Account Status: Non-U.S. Verified Premier Member (1)
Type: Goods (other)
Amount: $125.00 USD
Total Amount: $125.00 USD
........: Online :............IPB says:
is it u ?
........: Online :............IPB says:
reply ?
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
one second
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
and yes
........: Online :............IPB says:
what ?
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
thats it
........: Online :............IPB says:
send at - [email protected]
........: Online :............IPB says:
forward domain
........: Online :............IPB says:
[email protected]

[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
ok [email protected] ?
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
for the push?
........: Online :............IPB says:
yes
........: Online :............IPB says:
yes
........: Online :............IPB says:
[email protected]
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
can i keep you on msn for further domains you might need?
........: Online :............IPB says:
plz d that fast
........: Online :............IPB says:
transfer that one now
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
ok am doing
........: Online :............IPB says:
u said u r ready ?
........: Online :............IPB says:
it should not have taken time
........: Online :............IPB says:
....
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
verifying payment
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
one second
........: Online :............IPB says:
verifing ?
........: Online :............IPB says:
i send it long ago man
........: Online :............IPB says:
u trying to make fool of me
........: Online :............IPB says:
send it fast plz
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
no im making sure its in my payapl
........: Online :............IPB says:
it is there
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
im on dial up remember
........: Online :............IPB says:
i send it 5 mins ago
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
im loading paypal now.. i need to verify before sending the domain
........: Online :............IPB says:
if u do not send me this or fruad , how will i buy more ?
........: Online :............IPB says:
i am saying i have send it
........: Online :............IPB says:
File Type To/From Name/Email/Phone Amount Date Status Details Action
Payment To Traci Bonin -$125.00 USD Jul. 15, 2006 Completed Details
Transfer From Credit Card $125.00 USD Jul. 15, 2006 Completed Details
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
ok
........: Online :............IPB says:
send fast
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
if you chargeback on tis sale ill personally have you banned forever off the domain forums
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
one minute
........: Online :............IPB says:
what is meant by chargeback ?
........: Online :............IPB says:
taking domain back ?
........: Online :............IPB says:
plz send domain
........: Online :............IPB says:
its more than 10 mins now
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
on its way
........: Online :............IPB says:
[email protected] ?
........: Online :............IPB says:
right
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
yes
........: Online :............IPB says:
did got till now
........: Online :............IPB says:
u defaming me
........: Online :............IPB says:
in room
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
nope
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
just taking precaution
........: Online :............IPB says:
u r follish
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
no one knows you in there
........: Online :............IPB says:
u dont know how to deal
........: Online :............IPB says:
u deflaming me
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
no im not.. im just making sure.. people in this room are long time users.. youre a new guy comes in thats all
........: Online :............IPB says:
i have not received domain till now and u r fruading
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
nothing to defame about youve done nothing wrong
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
the domain is on its way
........: Online :............IPB says:
its not yet here
........: Online :............IPB says:
it does not takes time
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
be patient
........: Online :............IPB says:
i need to do something
........: Online :............IPB says:
u r leiing
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
ive never seen someone so impatient
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
i am not lying
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
you're getting the domain
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
im a reputable broker
........: Online :............IPB says:
its been 15 mins since i paid u
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
and im on dial up but youll ahve it within 5 more minutes in your account
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
youll have to update your own info
........: Online :............IPB says:
i know that
........: Online :............IPB says:
but i should get a mail
........: Online :............IPB says:
[email protected] right ?
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
yes
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
hang with me
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
its in change account right in godaddy for the push?
........: Online :............IPB says:

........: Online :............IPB says:

HACKED.CC
Registered At GoDaddy.com
Exp Date: 16-Jun-07
Asking Price: $40 ono Hacked.CC - SOLD
........: Online :............IPB says:
**** you
........: Online :............IPB says:
u scammed me
........: Online :............IPB says:
sold me for $ 125
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
no thats not what i paid
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
i did it in an auction
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
thats another user
........: Online :............IPB says:
u r fruad
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
excuse me ?
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
i paid more than that
........: Online :............IPB says:
its for $ 40
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
no it was listed for that.. then bought then auctions and i wont the auction much higher
........: Online :............IPB says:
no it is sold for $ 40
........: Online :............IPB says:
and u did not even transferred it
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
yes sure did.. and it never sold to me for 40.00
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
it was more
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
4200 np to be exact
........: Online :............IPB says:
i have got no mail
........: Online :............IPB says:
i am going to contact paypal npw
........: Online :............IPB says:
now
........: Online :............IPB says:
u have ripped me
........: Online :............IPB says:
i will call paypal
........: Online :............IPB says:
what do you gain from ripping ?
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
nothing
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
ill refund your paypal
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
im not interested in your sale
........: Online :............IPB says:
what ?
........: Online :............IPB says:
u defameing me
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
not to have you do a charge back after the sale
........: Online :............IPB says:
i even paid
........: Online :............IPB says:
what is that ?
........: Online :............IPB says:
expalin me chargeback first
........: Online :............IPB says:
what is that term ?
........: Online :............IPB says:
you have not even send me mail
........: Online :............IPB says:
HELLO WHERE IS MY DOMAIN ?
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
ill refund you your funds
........: Online :............IPB says:
why ?
........: Online :............IPB says:
u didnt even send it till now
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
because im not interested in dealing with you
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
i was about to
........: Online :............IPB says:
i just asked that if it was for $ 40 ?
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
ill send some dunds
........: Online :............IPB says:
what big deal ?
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
no you called me a scam
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
i paid more than 40.00 for it
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
and you told me to F off
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
therfor take your money
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
ill refund right now
........: Online :............IPB says:
WHERE R U
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
refunding
........: Online :............IPB says:
u ran away
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
i didnt go anywhere
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
im here loading paypal page
........: Online :............IPB says:
where is my domain ?
........: Online :............IPB says:
if u have send domain
........: Online :............IPB says:
where is it ?
........: Online :............IPB says:
so u lied to me
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
im not selling it to you.. not with this kind of treatment.. . im refunding your 125.00
........: Online :............IPB says:
why
........: Online :............IPB says:
i need domain
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
fine
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
ill sell you the domain
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
but can you be a little nicer to me please?
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
im working as fast as i can here
........: Online :............IPB says:
why r u acting stupid
........: Online :............IPB says:
i paid u
........: Online :............IPB says:
i need domain
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
dial up internet
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
stop insulting me..ive done nothing but give you a nice deal here
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
i could have resold much higher
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
ill pusht eh domain
........: Online :............IPB says:
plz send
........: Online :............IPB says:
i m waiting
........: Online :............IPB says:
i will deal more
........: Online :............IPB says:
i have $ 800 left
........: Online :............IPB says:
working ?
........: Online :............IPB says:
u said u send it ?
........: Online :............IPB says:
so u didnt send it till now ?
........: Online :............IPB says:
u didnt pushed till now ?
........: Online :............IPB says:
u said u did it 10 mins ago
........: Online :............IPB says:
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
the domain is on its way
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
i stopped the push because you were being rude
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
its coming now im relogging back in
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
i was going to cancel the whole sale and refund you
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
its a small sale for me
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
but you can have it since paid for
[email protected] (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
but bear in mind i got the domain for more than 40.00 that was the owners before me

 

[WGS_Thunder]

:hehe: And how about paypal, they are partly at fault here too, right? How can they accept stolen credit cards. Lets all boycott Paypal too. Power to the people!

 

[B33R]

Right and when my campaigns at adwords i suspect click fraud but google support doesnt i should then go post in a forum and Eric Schmidt SHOULD come and reply right? Or not...

The key word there being "suspect".

UD has actual proof that her domain was obtained fraudulently. It is GoDaddys obligation to prevent domains being stolen or otherwise taken illegally.
They have a 60 day wait rule before you can transfer out a domain that has recently been pushed or had the contact details changed, they also say by email that you have 15 days to report problems.

If they don't follow their own rules and let a domain be obtained fraudulently, then why shouldn't this incident involve high level GoDaddy staff/managers/owner?

If she can provide the proof then GoDaddy should return the domain as they already obligated themselves to do so, after all, they give you 15 days to report, they have 60 days to stop a transfer out. If they aren't serious about it, then they should not offer it.

 

[SiteBroker]

The key word there being "suspect".

UD has actual proof that her domain was obtained fraudulently. It is GoDaddys obligation to prevent domains being stolen or otherwise taken illegally.
They have a 60 day wait rule before you can transfer out a domain that has recently been pushed or had the contact details changed, they also say by email that you have 15 days to report problems.

If they don't follow their own rules and let a domain be obtained fraudulently, then why shouldn't this incident involve high level GoDaddy staff/managers/owner?

If she can provide the proof then GoDaddy should return the domain as they already obligated themselves to do so, after all, they give you 15 days to report, they have 60 days to stop a transfer out. If they aren't serious about it, then they should not offer it.

Get real the amount of fraudalent transactions ive had with paypal and the amount of times ive lost my money due to people using stolen accounts i never once spoke to anyone higher up then telephone support. There is no need staff can handle problems like these, now if 1000 people on the same day got hit by the same fraud account that would be a story where someone high up would release a statement, not 1 domain for $100 or whatever it was.
Godaddy probably are wrong i think its stupid posting on a forum "why isnt bob parsons replying to this thread" i mean cmon!

 

[WGS_Thunder]

Heck let's boycott Google too. You guys are too much. JMO

 

[SiteBroker]

Heck let's boycott Google too. You guys are too much. JMO

You know msn is sending me less traffic lately, someone please alert Mr Gates to this thread!

 

[WGS_Thunder]

You know msn is sending me less traffic lately, someone please alert Mr Gates to this thread!

Well, I've done my part. I moved all 3 of my domain names to another registrar AND spent the $14.00 I had in my paypal account. I'll show them for not posting here. Bill better hurry up and post here too or I'm switching to linux.

 

[UD]

haha..

Even three stings.. thats around 23.00 per year?


Sitebroker.. you work for GD or something?..

0 trader rating.. just a note.

I bet you'd hum a different tune if this were you.

 

[SiteBroker]

haha..

Even three stings.. thats around 23.00 per year?


Sitebroker.. you work for GD or something?..

0 trader rating.. just a note.

I bet you'd hum a different tune if this were you.

Im more into marketing and seo thus no trader here since this forum is all about np$ and not much to buy from what i see.
But no i wouldnt hum a different tune because a few hundred dollars means squat to me and ive lost more money then that on a night out.
No i dont work for godaddy some crap support wages arent going to tempt me away from being self employed. How about this send me your paypal email and ill send you $120 which is what you lost right? Ill call it my good deed for the month

 

[UD]

I can't take your money..

You never harmed me.. and although this is the kindest gesture I've seen in a long time.. and I humbly appreciate the offer.

I can't... It's not your wrong to rectify.

Thank you so much for your offer .. you are too kind

 

[snapplekid13]

**Holds Out Hand for SiteBroker to give me money too**

LOL! Just kidding..... but if ya really want too :P :P :P :P :P

 

[DomainBELL]

?? SiteBroker - I am curious - how did you find this thread ??



~DomainBeLL (Patricia)

 

[rkahn144]

Although I believe UD, it is hard for GD to just believe her just because she says that PaulV stole the DN. Does she have screenshots...yes, but that is not evidence because it could easily be altered. GD may not even have a way to connect the email address from which UD rec'd the PayPal money to a user in the GD system.

I am just trying to play devil's advocate & show that GD HAS to be skeptical or else they'd be scammed every day.

 

[SiteBroker]

?? SiteBroker - I am curious - how did you find this thread ??



~DomainBeLL (Patricia)

I clicked warnings and alerts and then clicked the thread title and boom there it was. How about you?

 

[WGS_Thunder]

I clicked warnings and alerts and then clicked the thread title and boom there it was. How about you?

Really, C'mon post the email Bob sent you.

 

[SiteBroker]

Really, C'mon post the email Bob sent you.

I cant it self destructed after i read it.

 

[Mystic]

Just a note, I never had time to read this thread but:

Elliot Lee also goes as his online handle intelliot

and also runs GoogleCommunity.com

 

[America First]

UD,
I feel you could go back to the OP and edit it, he did say some harsh words, that could be cleaned up like (p$#@# and others) I understand you did not want to lose any of the real Im/post but we still would understand what he was saying.

Not to offend anyone on here, but anytime i get an email where they do not type the email correctly or make any sense i start to question it/them.

Now on to your post,
The way he pushed you and was acting should have been a sign, anytime someone rushes anybody step back and rethink it, at one point you almost backed out as you felt there maybe something wrong. What happened here was $$$ going through your mind and so you were blinded by this and wante dthe deal. :imho:

The bad part about this whole post is that I CANT believe you would continue another venture like sending this A$$Wh$@% a picture of you and 2 at that,(no matter if he asked to verify) and now he has it posted up somewhere on a wall laughing to his IDIOT friends " and she sent me 2 pics, damn i almost got naked ones" AGAIN you caught yourself and told him that you were a domainer, and good for you im glad you caught yourself again, but it was to late. Telling him your private info about your x and how you live is a very dangerous SO NEVER DO THAT.
Im wishing you the very best, and am glad you have posted this as it does help newbies, but you to have learned a lesson in more then one way i hope. (Dont mix business with pleasure)
Please keep us/me updated on how it goes :tu:
Francois

 

[intelliot]

Just a note, I never had time to read this thread but:

Elliot Lee also goes as his online handle intelliot

and also runs GoogleCommunity.com

I'm Elliot Lee of GoogleCommunity.com. I use the handle intelliot, and as you can see, I have been a member of NamePros since July 2004. Mystic, you're mistaken in assuming that I'm associated with this thread in some way, and I would like to clarify.

I'm an entirely different person from the scammer mentioned in this thread. It appears that "elliot.leee" (with three "e" characters in "leee") is pretending to be me. That email address is not mine, and that person is not me.

I am not involved and I am not associated with that person in any way whatsoever. If you have suggestions on what I should do, let me know: I'm an honest person. At this point, I'm going to ignore it, because it's simply not me.

 

[UD]

Registrant:
Elliot Lee
15 Erkwood link Road
Near D Sector
Kalina, California 10141
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: HACKED.CC
Created on: 16-Jun-06
Expires on: 16-Jun-07
Last Updated on: 16-Jul-06

Administrative Contact:
Lee, Elliot [email protected]
15 Erkwood link Road
Near D Sector
Kalina, California 10141
United States
9393203257

Technical Contact:
Lee, Elliot [email protected]
15 Erkwood link Road
Near D Sector
Kalina, California 10141
United States
9393203257

Domain servers in listed order:
PARK27.SECURESERVER.NET
PARK28.SECURESERVER.NET


Registry Status: ACTIVE



If this is not you should't you be contacting Godaddy?

 

[America First]

gee, i thought i would help ya UD,

Registrant:
Elliot Lee
20355 Elkwood Road
Walnut, California 91789
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: GOOGLECOMMUNITY.COM.....THIS IS IN YOUR SIG
Created on: 01-May-04
Expires on: 01-May-09
Last Updated on: 22-Jul-06

Administrative Contact:
Lee, Elliot [email protected]
20355 Elkwood Road
Walnut, California 91789
United States
9098391983

Technical Contact:
Lee, Elliot [email protected]
20355 Elkwood Road
Walnut, California 91789
United States
9098391983

LOOKS LIKE YOU TO ME....JUST CHANGED YOUR EMAIL OR ADDED A NEW ONE