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Wow. This topic blows me away. This girl named Lyndsey Kadziauskas was "raped" at a party. It's no big deal I am posting this here since the day after it happened she came clean and told her parents. Most girls will hold it in and let it build up because they don't want all the extra attention that comes from it. I'm thinking that's all she wanted, and boy did she get it. Lyndsey was in the teen magizene "Cosmo Girl" about two years back right after it all happened. Ben and Matt called Lyndsey and asked her if she wanted to go to a party. Now at this point Lyndsey had NOT been drinking at all. She said she was "looking to improve her popularity", if anything, it hurt her image at school. She says she was emotionaly scared from this and wanted to reach out to all the other girls who had been raped before. That's not true. Honestly, one week later, her and her boy friend were having sex like they were married. Well instead of just blabbing on here's the actual story from online.

Source: http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/Living/lyndsey_assault_031205-1.html

Lyndsey Kadziauskas was looking to improve her popularity. It was her first week in high school and she was surprised to be invited to a party at the home of one of the popular kids, 16-year-old Ryan Stinchfield, whose parents were out for the evening.

"I just thought, maybe, well, there's older kids there I knew, maybe I'll have fun," said Lyndsey, who was 14 at the time. "Maybe I'll be cooler if I go over there."

Lyndsey sneaked out of her house and rode to the party with Stinchfield and two other youths, Ben Cormier, 18, and Matt Kelley, 16.

At the party, Lyndsey quickly polished off some strong rum and Pepsi cocktails. She was not an experienced drinker and began to feel sick. She asked to lie down and Stinchfield took her to his bedroom. He left and she was eventually joined by Cormier and Kelley.

"A while later, I don't remember, I didn't have any pants on or any shoes on or anything," said Lyndsey. "Just my shirt and my bra. The next thing was Ben on top of me."

Lyndsey says she was a virgin at the time and was startled by Cormier's actions. "He was trying to have sex with me. I didn't really know what to do." Kelley had sex with her, and she is unclear as to whether or not she said no.

"I don't think so," said Lyndsey. "I was really, really scared โ€ฆ then I fell back asleep or passed out or whatever. And then I woke up and they were all out of the room."

The boys later gave Lyndsey a ride home, during which, she says, they stopped the vehicle and Cormier forced her onto an outdoor table and asked her to perform oral sex on him.

He Said โ€ฆ She Said

The next day Lyndsey was bombarded by phone calls from other kids at school as gossip spread about the incident. She initially said that she wasn't raped.

"I didn't really know what had happened, and I didn't want to say anything wrong to my parents," said Lyndsey. "And I was scared too that they would think badly of me, so I just decided to act like nothing happened."

Cormier, the only boy involved in the case who agreed to speak with 20/20, claimed that Lyndsey seemed to be experienced at oral sex. "She actually acted like she'd done it before," he said, adding, "She never said she didn't want anything to happen."

"I've heard that explanation before," said Cyndi Amato, director of the South Maine Rape Crisis Center. "That doesn't mean that she said yes. It doesn't mean she meant maybe. It means consent was not given.

"We need to educate kids," said Amato. "That's where we have really fallen down on educating our youth: about what consent is โ€ฆ We really need to look at that. Consent to any type of act โ€” especially a sexual act โ€” needs to be active, not passive." Amato added that alcohol is involved in 90 percent of all rapes.

Criminal Investigation

Back at school Lyndsey found notoriety, not popularity. She was taunted and called a "slut" by kids in the hallways. She sought help from her principal and a counselor, and told them she'd been raped. The counselor immediately contacted the police and an investigation was begun.

After investigators searched Stinchfield's bedroom and found a bloodstained mattress, they arrested Cormier and Kelley.

At the age of 19, Cormier was convicted of gross sexual assault โ€” for forcing sex on Lyndsey while she was intoxicated โ€” and is serving at least six years in prison. He maintains he is innocent and is appealing his conviction. Kelley, now 18, is out on parole after serving less than 18 months in a juvenile facility. The party host, Stinchfield, now 18, dropped out of high school and still faces charges of providing a place for minors to drink alcohol.

Throughout the case, Lyndsey says she was ridiculed at school, and even beaten up by one fellow student for accusing the popular boys.

Amato says criticism of Lyndsey is misplaced.

"I would say that it isn't about what she did or what she didn't do," said Amato. "What it is about is what was happening in the moment โ€ฆ the mind-set of these boys."

Instead of keeping a low profile, Lyndsey decided to speak out in the media, including Cosmo Girl, a national teen magazine.

"I wanted to tell a lot of girls that it happened to that it's OK to get the guys in trouble," said Lyndsey. "It's OK to tell someone about it. You know, you shouldn't be ashamed of it, because it's not your fault."

Lyndsey, now 16, is determined to move on. "I just want to think about the future," she said. "I don't want to think about this anymore."
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Here's one thing that REALLY happen.. ben told my brother and I himself. Matt, Lyndsey, and Ben were in a room and she undressed them. Now she wont admit it, but I beleive Ben over her. She doesn't like me because my brother :o

Any comments on this?

OH YEA! This iwll be on TV at 10 P.M. EST I highly suggest you watch it. Ben is being interviewed on the show too :) I haven't seen him for a very long time, and look forward to seeing him.
 
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Hmm. Even if she eventually confesses that she agreed to the boys' advances, the bottom line is she was 14 and below the age of consent. Which makes sex with her statutory rape. Since no one denies the act having taken place, there is no defense possible in such a case.
 
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Originally posted by armstrong
Hmm. Even if she eventually confesses that she agreed to the boys' advances, the bottom line is she was 14 and below the age of consent. Which makes sex with her statutory rape. Since no one denies the act having taken place, there is no defense possible in such a case.

My thoughts exactly. I think its messed up either way. Damn kids. (including me ;) )
 
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When she was undressing them and preforming oral favors you wouldn't call that concentual? or how ever you spell it.. con-sent-chu-al :lol:
 
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I would call it stupid kids trying to be "cool"
 
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Originally posted by phrone
When she was undressing them and preforming oral favors you wouldn't call that concentual? or how ever you spell it.. con-sent-chu-al :lol:

She could have given her consent. But the law says she is incapable of giving her consent. This law is intended to protect minors from being abused by adults. Think - without such a law, how young can you go? Can a 5-year old, for example, say yes? You'll probably say no, in which case, then where would you draw the line? Most countries draw the line at 16.

Sorry, the line has to be drawn somewhere. Your friend crossed it and got busted.
 
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I know. But what pisses me off is that she lied.. in court even :o

Well it's 10 PM folks.. going to see if I can stand to watch her on the television..
 
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Was the guy who "raped" her under 18 at the time.. if so it's not technically statutory rape (sp?).. nevermind just re-read.. he was 18.. but yeah I think the line ends at 16 and the other cannot be more than 3 years older.

phrone, you are not sure that she lied.. I don't think you should be making that accusation here.. especially since it's a national story.. can you say slander? You weren't there.. so don't say stuff that you can't backup.

*just watched some of it*.. I dunno I more or less believe her.. I don't think she'd take it this far if she were lying. Ben admits she gave him oral.. that's against the law as well...
 
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i just happened to be there, not that it matters. I wasn't in the room, no. But I was well aware what was going on. She lied on T.V tonight, but I'm not going back and point out where she lied. What she said on T.V for one did not match up with what she said about five minutes before in the show. Her story on television did not match up with her ones she had told in life. But it doesnt matter because I personally know what really went on and whos lying.

Did the TV mention how she undressed the two guys? :-/

That's not a one sided argument or anything, not to mention the fact that all of Ben's statements put him clear.

I know what Matt and Ben did was wrong, but just think if she had never snuck out that night :o
 
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if you knew what was happening why wouldn't you say anything?? Sorry your story seems a little off as well.
 
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Well, Its just ****ing stupid to have sex with kids. Cause she is a kid. And kids make up stories.

Anyway they only have them self to blaim if they new she was underage.
 
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Originally posted by armstrong
She could have given her consent. But the law says she is incapable of giving her consent. This law is intended to protect minors from being abused by adults. Think - without such a law, how young can you go? Can a 5-year old, for example, say yes? You'll probably say no, in which case, then where would you draw the line? Most countries draw the line at 16.

Sorry, the line has to be drawn somewhere. Your friend crossed it and got busted.


man...if they do it here .......with any girl here under 16.....(its statutory RAPE)they are in for the BIG time: its 5 years jail term and 6 strokes of the "rotan"...not just ordinary canning....one stroke......and yr bones will showD-: ...you will not be able to sit for weeks....and they spaced out the canningsD-:....brutal? YES...effective????and with a medical doctor on standbY:-/!!!!!!

well it is the rule of the land!! after all, they jailed the DEPUTY CHIEF MINISTER for sodomy......and thats another Topic:tri:


so guys.....hold your horses here:laugh:
 
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I think this whole thing is stupid lmfao its useless arguing for nothing. I think they all should shut up admit they were ALL wrong and go on with their lives.
 
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^^Right. Why don't they put all of the kids on a lie detecter test? :-/
 
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State laws vary alot and are also read wrong most of the time as well . The sate of florida is read wrong alot and i think should be written more clear . People seem to get the wrong idea when reading it




(1) A person 24 years of age or older who engages in sexual activity with a person 16 or 17 years of age commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. As used in this section, "sexual activity" means oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual organ of another; however, sexual activity does not include an act done for a bona fide medical purpose.

(2) The provisions of this section do not apply to a person 16 or 17 years of age who has had the disabilities of nonage removed under chapter 743.

(3) The victim's prior sexual conduct is not a relevant issue in a prosecution under this section.

(4) If an offense under this section directly results in the victim giving birth to a child, paternity of that child shall be established as described in chapter 742. If it is determined that the offender is the father of the child, the offender must pay child support pursuant to the child support guidelines described in chapter 61.
 
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She went to a party..
She drank like a fish..
She was feeling "good"..

This guy.. Cormier appears faced 6 yrs in prision..

I'm not so sure he deserved this..

It's MUCH different a CASE..

when one is NOT at a party.. not drinking..
and one is cought OFF GUARD..

I put a man in prison for 5yrs.. for agg. sexual assault.
and he got out on "good time" what ever the he** that is..

It was a 5 day trial.. He plead the 5th..

I was abducted from a grocery store parking lot.. tied up with jumper cables.. and blindfolded..

My case is much different then the one you mention..

I was NOT at a party.. I had NOT been drinking..
 
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Originally posted by Elefekt
I would call it stupid kids trying to be "cool"

I wouldn't say stupid, but yes, it's 'not-known-to-danger" kids trying to be "cool". The age just sets it off aswell...

Alot of people at a young age try's to be 'cool' and hang out with the "good" *cough* Bad *cough* guys, but it always blows up on them. The only way to move on is to accept responsiblity and learn from the mistakes you make. Theres no other way about it, in my experiacne of talking to people.

Sorry for going a little off topic.. I don't like rape cases.
 
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They arn't bad. I personally know EVERYONE involved with this. They are all just normal kids. They were just the ones it had to happen to..

Originally posted by Wanda
She went to a party..
She drank like a fish..
She was feeling "good"..

This guy.. Cormier appears faced 6 yrs in prision..

I'm not so sure he deserved this..


OMG! THANK YOU WANDA! Finally someone agrees with me :D
 
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I've been drunk many times and no matter what I know what I am doing, if I was at this party and knew what was going on in the other room I would have walked in and gave those boys a woop-assing, they knew her age and perfectly what they where doing...

Mike
 
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Dura lex, sed lex. The law is harsh, but it is the law.

The justice system is not perfect, and it never will be. When you realize this, you may feel resentful, but you'll see that its still a hell of a lot better than NOT having a justice system.
 
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