.mobi Frank Schilling's take on .mobi

[ekal]

Respected domainer Frank Schilling gives his take on .mobi

http://frankschilling.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/03/mobi_cashgrab.html

I think this registry is just a sales organization. They are selling hope for a .com redux. If it's not there (and its not IMO), lots of speculators are going to give up and let renewals lapse and complain about domain names in general. That's bad for the industry. In my opinion these guys are pick and shovel salesmen, selling said picks and shovels in an area with no gold.

 

[scandiman]

Never said those things and while I have used terms like mobi-cultists I have not named anyone in that group which means only the reader can perceive themselves in it.

And yes lots of my arguments are conjecture about mobi or mTLD. They are not conjecture about people or members here.

So when you went on the following tirade in a now deleted thread would you not consider this personal?

"Do you really think this domain has ANY value? Please scandiman if all you can say is good things about every single mobi registered then you are just a dishonest person. You can't honestly say that this domain has ANY value. It's a ZERO. u469.mobi? wtf is that? Adult my arse...it's a zero period. Get real about helping domainers and stop feeding them lies to make them feel good or to push your agenda of placing mobi on a pedestal. Normally I stay away from these appraisal threads but this entire thread is unconscionable!"

To refresh your memory, all I said was one single word, "indeed", acknowledging that discussion about the domain in question belonged in an adult forum.

So in my efforts to respect the NP rules you find it appropriate to call me a liar.

If I have offended a person I am normally man enough to send them a PM apology or even a public apology.

Well, you eventually responded to my PM regarding your aforementioned slanderous remarks by saying that you didn't care. I am offended that you have called me a liar in a public forum and I am hoping you are man enough to apologize in this thread. The proof is in the pudding.

 

[Innercool22]

Yes, Warren Buffet is genius. Its uncanny how a person knows what will jump in value. Some got it and some don't.

I have the solution to the dotmobi speculation.

Lets ask Warren Buffet. :o

I would like his opinion tho-

 

[GeoOwners]

Silenced ? No What I don't understand about anyone ( I did not name names either)is why go into an ext specific thread if you don't like the ext. Voice your opinion all you like in General Discussion, I believe ext specific are for like minded individuals that wanted their own forum within the forum. I say this because I started this concept with the .tv subforum then came .us then .mobi

I look at the let me go into an ext forum I don't like as the same as a heterosexual man going to a lesbian bar and telling them they should like c**K

your exactely right...the same idea of not dumping on a sales thread applies to a specific forum....tv .org or whatever...they are there because they like the idea not to create bs post after bs post...I think this thread has run its course and time to turn out the lights.

 

[Traveler]

your exactely right...the same idea of not dumping on a sales thread applies to a specific forum....tv .org or whatever...they are there because they like the idea not to create bs post after bs post...I think this thread has run its course and time to turn out the lights.

Unfortnately, the repeat offender(s) will just start up again in another thread. It has become a form of entertainment for the person(s) no doubt.

 

[goodkarmaco]

Not even thinking about all that is said, the mobi bashers choose to use poorly supported cliches to prop up the assumption .mobi will fail. So why bother to respond with intelligent answers to the same boring questions.

Mr shilling is not alone in his thinking. But the don't get took scare tactic being used is hurting and will hurt even those big players who own thousands of .coms

Let us not forget the image of domainers is not that great of one with the media and certain tangable media reporting about "cyberquatters, parking sharks and other less than desirable images.

So keep on shooting yourselfs in the foot Mr. Shilling and other .mobi haters. Writting in blogs and public forums that people who have anything to do with the new .mobi are simalar to the gold seekers of 1849. Simalar in that they only chased a dream.

Then to see the gold rush in those eyes is akin to ignoring that thousands of people became very rich from those gold fields and those people became the owners of huge corporations that are still here today.

But to hear these guys talk you would think buying a .mobi is going to take away food from the baby and will run the household to poverty. Don't these guys have any common sense. Successful domain people are going to invest in the extension based on THEIR knowledge of the .mobi.

If you cannot see the value of the .mobi then you will not register the domain. If you do see the value of it based of the knowledge you have learned about the .mobi then you will buy the domain.

I guess that can be called free market.

 

[StoneRoses]

I look at the let me go into an ext forum I don't like as the same as a heterosexual man going to a lesbian bar and telling them they should like c**K[/QUOTE]


Lol!, I might put this on my Q&A favourite statement

Quality analogy!

 

[Jasdon]

I look at the let me go into an ext forum I don't like as the same as a heterosexual man going to a lesbian bar and telling them they should like c**K

I'm glad I didn't have a mouthful of hot coffee when I read that....I'd be looking for a new keyboard now!

 

[Carlton]

...I just added a nice post at my new mobisucks blog.

http://www.mobisucks.info

Aren't you the guy that modified his initial view on mobi? But now a mobi sucks blog? You were moving toward a more balanced view for awhile.

Actually, the mobi sales were pretty decent. I didn't expect a high flying flowers.mobi replay. The recent sales were more reflective of a decent business investment vs. wild speculation. Hope labrocca will get back more of the moderate view he had adopted, :tu:.

 

[mkylut]

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[mjnels]

If I have offended a person I am normally man enough to send them a PM apology or even a public apology. No person is ever always right and I don't mind admitting when I err.

You mean like the PM you sent me a few days ago after your insane-trolling-mobi-hate-thread got deleted by admin, and you assumed i reported it.. (which i didnt, but probably would have just to piss you off)..... you mean this PM?



" You are on my ignore list...been so for months now...you think reporting my thread will shut me up or change facts that mobi just took ANOTHER hit today from it's pedestal?

If you reply...I won't read it...so don't bother.

I just think you should add me to your ignore list asap if you can't stand my posts so much. "




Class act labrocca, your a hero.
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[Traveler]

I'm getting a bit uncomfortable with the bashing of people by name. As I have mentioned before and someone else has in this thread. The best way to deal with the person (s) who I won't mention is to ingore their comments completely.

 

[mkylut]

someone should stop this thread.

I'm getting a bit uncomfortable with the bashing of people by name. As I have mentioned before and someone else has in this thread. The best way to deal with the person (s) who I won't mention is to ingore their comments completely.

Agree and thanks for your reminder

 

[oxford11]

Mods, please stop this thread. It's gone on too long. Some things just aren't worth discussing. A lot brilliant people in this thread... your smarts are needed else where.

Ox

 

[jmcc]

Not even thinking about all that is said, the mobi bashers choose to use poorly supported cliches to prop up the assumption .mobi will fail.

Actually it might be down to confusion over market types. The .mobi TLD is a slow burn kind of market where the premium generics are periodically auctioned off. This makes it quite different from badly run ccTLDs like .eu where warehousers / domainers and cybersquatters crowded out legitimate (business) registrants to such an extent that it damaged the credibility of the extension.

Mr shilling is not alone in his thinking. But the don't get took scare tactic being used is hurting and will hurt even those big players who own thousands of .coms

Looking at it purely in terms of type-in traffic he is right. There is no worthwhile type-in traffic this early in the lifetime of an extension because it hasn't really entered the public awareness yet.

]So keep on shooting yourselfs in the foot Mr. Shilling and other .mobi haters. Writting in blogs and public forums that people who have anything to do with the new .mobi are simalar to the gold seekers of 1849. Simalar in that they only chased a dream.

I'm not a .mobi hater - I just analyse TLDs and domain registration patterns. In any early market, there is going to be a pile of people who lose and a very small number that actually win big. By auctioning off the premium generics, the .mobi registry has priced a lot of the smaller domainers out of the market for these domains.

If you cannot see the value of the .mobi then you will not register the domain. If you do see the value of it based of the knowledge you have learned about the .mobi then you will buy the domain.

I still think that .mobi will be a long term investment unless something radical happens with mobile internet browsing patterns.

I guess that can be called free market.

I don't think it is a free market becase .mobi registry is controlling the release of the premium generics.

Regards...jmcc

 

[ofclean]

mjnels, 98% of your replies are worthless one-liners.

 

[GeoOwners]

mjnels, 98% of your replies are worthless one-liners.

that applies to 98% of the peeps ...

 

[equity78]

Lol!, I might put this on my Q&A favourite statement

Quality analogy!

Thank you Stone that is original I did not copy it from anyone. glad it made a few people laugh.

This is what I meant General Discussion Forum should be for anyone to say whatever they want. A subforum devoted to an ext is basically stating here is a bunch of like minded individuals that wanted a place to interact with other like minded individuals. Its like Mobians are not asking for the opinion of everyone they are trying to communicate with each other not looking for a validation. Say someone is a swinger and goes to swinger parties, they are not looking for the opinions of others on their lifestyle... they want to interact with other swingers.... So someone has the right to voice their opinion against swinging.......but not at a swingers club.

Bottom line is something can be done about it amend the sub forum rules


RULE ThIS IS THE .MOBI SUBFORUM a forum dedicated to the discussion of .mobi. IF you do not like .mobi great, take your opinions to the general discussion forum all bashing threads and posts will be deleted.

The bottom line is you are not allowed to have rules less strict than Namepros but you can have rules that are more strict.

 

[Traveler]

Say someone is a swinger and goes to swinger parties.

LOL, your anologies seem to have a persistent theme :o I don't want to know what goes on behind your closed doors :hehe:

 

[scandiman]

RULE ThIS IS THE .MOBI SUBFORUM a forum dedicated to the discussion of .mobi. IF you do not like .mobi great, take your opinions to the general discussion forum all bashing threads and posts will be deleted.

The bottom line is you are not allowed to have rules less strict than Namepros but you can have rules that are more strict.

Is this a suggestion or an actual change? I sure hope it is the latter.

 

[equity78]

It is a rule in Dot TV subforum Scandiman because I started the forum and I run it and yes I told RJ about having stricter rules and that was fine. You cannot have it the other way with rules less strict than the overall forum.

So no reason Scandi that INOD cannot do the same. Make it a subforum rule

NEO I am neither a swinger or go to lesbian bars You have to admit the lesbian bar one is funny and a good analogy IMO