discuss Fake and Wasteful Domain Buyer Requests

[Haroon Basha]

I find Domain Buyer Requests column is misused by some fake entities, making our time and energy waste. Their Buy request posts seem something fishy.

For example, I saw one post requesting for crypto-related domain names.
He posted this thread on March 8, 2018. As of today, in two months time, there were 2,457 views and 75 replies. So many of hopeful Namepros members have sent him their offers. What is most surprising is the fact that still his Feedback shows ZERO. This means, in two months time, he was unable to close any deal here at Namepros. What is his motive? To buy his required domain names or something else in his mind? The moderator should take note of these kind of wasteful and fake requests and save our time and energy.

I hope other affected members share their experiences here. Thank you very much.

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

Hello,

Unfortunately, there's no way for us to know ahead of time how serious a potential buyer may be before they create a wanted ad in Domain Buyer Requests. However, we hope the majority of members are sincere.

Please keep in mind that sellers can decide for themselves which threads are worth their time. If you don't think that anyone should be able to post a wanted ad unless they have a specific number of posts, trade reviews, etc., then you're free to ignore those threads that do not meet your criteria. Each member will have a different criteria of which threads are worth their time.

We hope that helps.

 

[IMEZI]

dont forget some evil and greedy person could act as brooker, by opening WTB thread he/she will get a lot of data (domain name and price) and you can imagine the rest of the story LOL

 

[xynames]

The offers to buy on here are ridiculously low, and most are not worth responding to, but can be worth a good laugh.

I am sure what happens is that someone posts an offer to buy and then people send in garbage domains that they WOULD be willing to sell at those ridiculously low prices, and the buyer keeps hoping that someone will offer him a great one or two dictionary word dot com domain for 50-250 but of course this never happens.

You see these posts where they click bait the title with "$10,000" but then it turns out that their budget per domain is 50-100. For something like a three or four letter dot com domain, or a one word dot com. lol

I haven't tried to sell anything on here. First of all, we are all resellers here, so obviously anyone buying here needs to buy so that he may re-sell for a lot more. I respect that, but I'm not selling wholesale, but even if I were selling wholesale, I feel like people here are trying to buy for well below wholesale.

And then...these offers to buy posted on here, such as for example offering to pay 2% of estibot which estibot is notorious for underpricing domains in the first place. So someone is offering to pay just 2% of an already very low appraisal? I could post a sarcastic comment on almost every single Want to Buy (WTB) thread on here clowning the buyer, I mean, Are you kidding? but then it's not my place to comment on something if I'm not interested in participating in the offer anyway. But still I shake my head when I see what sort of "offers to buy" are posted on here, I hope I'd never sell any of my inventory that cheap. I assume that the sellers who do PM the buyers are offering some garbage that is not even worth the minuscule ridiculously low offers that the buyers are offering to pay - I doubt too many sales are concluded. More like, the namepros buyers are trying to trick the namepros sellers, and the namepros sellers are trying to trick the namepros buyers, and nothing gets done.

 

[SALE]

I think that some members post buying requests only to create a demand that will eventually lead to the sale of their own domains. Just like it happened in case of vege.us

I fully agree with @Haroon Basha , it's a waste of time sending messages to most of those who post buying requests.

A good idea would be to force them to deposit the funds they are willing to spend, to deposit the budget with namepros, and only then make their post public. Or at least give them the option to deposit the funds, and if they do, show it in the thread, in order to increase credibility.

 

[BrandZen]

I've posted many WTB threads ranging from pronounceable 4L.com, 5L.com, BrandBucket approved, CVCV.com and majority of people do not read the requirements, don't care, or think they are selling to an end user. I used to reply to everyone but now I just ignore messages I'm not interested in.

I'll get random 4L.coms that aren't even close to being pronounceable. Or my favorite are low quality BB approved names priced at half price for a quick sale. For example BB approved for $1500 but I'll sell it to you for only $750 for a quick sale. The kinds of names that sell for about $15 to $20 here on NP.

Any name I like always gets a response. If the price is reasonable, I've always made the purchase.

 

[BrandZen]

I think that some members post buying requests only to create a demand that will eventually lead to the sale of their own domains. Just like it happened in case of vege.us

I fully agree with @Haroon Basha , it's a waste of time sending messages to most of those who post buying requests.

A good idea would be to force them to deposit the funds they are willing to spend, to deposit the budget with namepros, and only then make their post public. Or at least give them the option to deposit the funds, and if they do, show it in the thread, in order to increase credibility.

I'll agree to that as long as the seller has to deposit funds, and if the the buyers requirements are ignored then those funds should be forfeited.

 

[equity78]

I've posted many WTB threads ranging from pronounceable 4L.com, 5L.com, BrandBucket approved, CVCV.com and majority of people do not read the requirements, don't care, or think they are selling to an end user. I used to reply to everyone but now I just ignore messages I'm not interested in.

I'll get random 4L.coms that aren't even close to being pronounceable. Or my favorite are low quality BB approved names priced at half price for a quick sale. For example BB approved for $1500 but I'll sell it to you for only $750 for a quick sale. The kinds of names that sell for about $15 to $20 here on NP.

Any name I like always gets a response. If the price is reasonable, I've always made the purchase.

I can vouch you are a legit buyer.

 

[equity78]

I think that some members post buying requests only to create a demand that will eventually lead to the sale of their own domains. Just like it happened in case of vege.us

I fully agree with @Haroon Basha , it's a waste of time sending messages to most of those who post buying requests.

A good idea would be to force them to deposit the funds they are willing to spend, to deposit the budget with namepros, and only then make their post public. Or at least give them the option to deposit the funds, and if they do, show it in the thread, in order to increase credibility.

Interesting idea, but that's never happening, Namepros is not going to start taking deposits as they really are not approved to be holding money like a bank or an escrow company. The legal action that would take place on deals gone wrong would be a real problem.

Secondly buyers would just skip using Namepros. Now the option to deposit is a better idea, or maybe not a deposit but they actually pay for placement. Namepros can sell ads, not act as an unlicensed escrow company.

 

[maxtra]

I think you should have a feedback rating of at least 50, or 1000 posts to place a want ad, to many people fishing for names, at the time expense of others.

$300K budgets, for people with 0 feedback, I bet majority of those people don't even have 10% of that available for a purchase.

That would really deter buyers, not sure any legitimate buyer would want to deal with that requirement just to acquire a domain. They would certainly look elsewhere.

Is it a legitimate request? Perhaps not. Only takes a minute to reply to a request though, so not much time wasted.

That is how I actually discovered this forum, searching for a place to acquire a domain for a venture.

 

[namerav]

Maybe 10% of postings in that section is void but still 90% is true.

 

[Roman Singh]

@Haroon Basha

I partly agree with what you're saying but how do we guarantee that we'll buy a name, even if they do not meet our requirements? Yes, I got quite some names but they are all either end-user price or not of good quality. Also, I did bargain with some but it didn't work out; so much difference in price range. And what is my fault if people still send me names after more than a month?

And, may I request you to take my name out from our post? you're basically targeting to tarnish my reputation, definitely not a good practice.

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

I agree with everything Roman said. And tagging him and using him as an example is not cool

 

[Haroon Basha]

@Haroon Basha

I partly agree with what you're saying but how do we guarantee that we'll buy a name, even if they do not meet our requirements? Yes, I got quite some names but they are all either end-user price or not of good quality. Also, I did bargain with some but it didn't work out; so much difference in price range. And what is my fault if people still send me names after more than a month?

And, may I request you to take my name out from our post? you're basically targeting to tarnish my reputation, definitely not a good practice.

My intention was not to harm anybody's reputation. Why should I? Did I ever know you? Your Buy Request post was very opt for my subject, hence it was my choice to quote your name along with your post. If the Moderator @Eric Lyon @Abdullah Abdullah thinks that the mentioning of name is not necessary, I have no objection, they can remove.

 

[Roman Singh]

@Haroon Basha
Your intention is so apparent; there are tens of wtb request posted every day, why did you choose my name only? And moreover, how is it within morale to tag someone for a wrong-doing, who has no such intention at all? So, I'm only requesting you to remove my name. I really hope we don't have to drag it to the Admins. @Eric Lyon @Abdullah Abdullah

You're free to raise any issue here and make people aware of it. But Please do not quote or tag someone and use them as an example of a wrong-doing without any proof of such.

Btw, don't be surprised if someone tags and uses your name as an example of wrong-doing tomorrow, just because they think your certain post is opt for their subject.

 

[Haroon Basha]

It was not my intention to hurt anyone but in good faith I have chosen a post to quote to stop bogus buy requests posts in NamePros. I received several request from @Roman Singh to remove his name from the thread as it affects his reputation badly. Here is his message in this post, read it as his rebuttal/clarification:

@Haroon Basha

I partly agree with what you're saying but how do we guarantee that we'll buy a name, even if they do not meet our requirements? Yes, I got quite some names but they are all either end-user price or not of good quality. Also, I did bargain with some but it didn't work out; so much difference in price range. And what is my fault if people still send me names after more than a month?

And, may I request you to take my name out from our post? you're basically targeting to tarnish my reputation, definitely not a good practice.

 

[BrandMart]

You know what? We had a similar discussion in some other thread, and @Eric Lyon shed some light on how this works.

see: https://www.namepros.com/threads/do...pm-sent-pm-sent-pm-sent.1066411/#post-6588160

 

[DotKing]

Why at least obvious time waster requests aren't deleted by moderators? They request 5k+ domain but they are not even online for weeks or months, still people are sending names and they are bumped on first page....

 

[alcy]

imo as it stands now the way requests work is inefficient both for buyer and seller.... lets put our think caps on and come up with solution... a bit like np team has updates planned for thread bumps..with buttons or such...unless there is something in works for requests too... @Support Team

 

[kite26]

...and no! None of us wants to exchange his 3L .com for your hamburger! (I mean in wtb section)

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

As of today, in two months time, there were 2,457 views and 75 replies.

Please note that if a request thread is open for more than 2 weeks without a reply from its buyer, then you may report it to us, and we'll close it. We generally try to close them ourselves if we notice that a buyer hasn't posted in the request thread in the past 2-4 weeks, but any help with finding those is appreciated.

Why at least obvious time waster requests aren't deleted by moderators? They request 5k+ domain but they are not even online for weeks or months, still people are sending names and they are bumped on first page....

Please use the report feature on requests like that, and we will look into them.

...and no! None of us wants to exchange his 3L .com for your hamburger! (I mean in wtb section)

If someone tries to offer a trade when it's not specified as an option in the request thread, please report it to us.

imo as it stands now the way requests work is inefficient both for buyer and seller.... lets put our think caps on and come up with solution... a bit like np team has updates planned for thread bumps..with buttons or such...unless there is something in works for requests too... @Support Team

Other than a completely custom-built solution, we don't know of anything else we can do at this time to improve the requests section. We will continue to consider all suggestions. Thanks for sharing them.

If there are any new suggestions, please contact support to share them with us. Thanks.