information Explosive claim about .xyz and “Swetha”

[Keith]

From Mike Mann on LinkedIn -

“Swetha is just an alias of Dan Negari. The vast majority of those high end .xyz sales are fake. The reason they appear to sell for BIN is because it is too complex and risky to use Afternic as a proxy to negotiate prices with himself.”

If this is true that would be unreal!

 

[tonyk2000]

The prudent keep their knowledge to themselves, but a fool’s heart blurts out folly.
(Proverbs 12:23)

 

[yb1313]

What happens if she starts selling her dictionary word .Pro names (check her site)?
Will that raise suspicions and accusations of collusion against the registry that owns the .pro extention?

Or will it be all ok, so long as she sells her .pros no higher than the 7-9k range (as they're currently priced)?

You could use the same 'it smells fishy' argument for anyone selling large volumes of names for big numbers, ranging from .com to .ai, to .top

To determine if there's a collusion, you have to look at many factors, not just the sales number.
The .pro extension does not (and certainly will not) have any market. If an anonymous domainer started reporting 5-figure .pro sales regularly (to hard-to-track buyers), while others with comparable .pro dictionary names hardly made 4-figure sales (or even 3-fig?), then yes it would be a valid reason for suspicion. People make up stories, for financial motives, and the domain industry isn't excluded from this. I recall someone making a ridiuclous claim of high-cost sales of some random extension (may have been .top actually) - and a quick look at the registry showed that the strongest dictionary words were available to hand-reg at that extension - which weaken that user's credibility at the very least.
Every case is different, and each .com sale is unique of course, but as opposed to .com and other aged & popular extensions, .xyz feels very centralized, and for the reasons others mentioned above, its hype may have been created in deceptive manners. Personally, I've bought about a dozen .xyz for $1 and never renewed them, so it didn't hurt me much, but other domainers probably have had different experiences.

 

[Jv1999]

i dunno, i used to respect Mike Mann. But him pulling this makes no sense. Isn't he a multi millionaire? why is he hurt that DN Gear found a way to make it in the domaining world into the millionaires field?

I thought some domainers would be scummy, but i didn't expect to see it in the higher levels, like wow.

DNGear has spoken personally and via voice call with people from 2016+. She's literally a woman from India who has been friendly to those of us who have met her. I never chatted iwth her on that level but @wormfood did on skype.

So for Mike Mann to be true, then Daniel would have had to have been LARPing as an Indian woman using voice changers on NP 7 years before his "scam" takes place... hahaahhahaahah

some people even have experience with watching Swetha's rise, like that one guy who said he noticed her buying up all the xyz auctions througout the years....

I like how Mike mann just throws something out there with 0 evidence for 0 reason besides "oh no, i feel threatened xyz is actually taking a piece of the action"

 

[karmaco]

“Explosive” claim about Swetha and XYZ…. Thread number 572 here on NP’s.

Its been hashed rehashed and still zero proof ever provided against validity and plenty for of proof, receipts development, India meetup etc.


Even Kate Buckley facilitated an xyz sale from Swetha. NameBio logged into her Afternic account. Nothing will ever appease the naysayers and you know what- nobody cares what old withered domainers think. We care about our own sales.

This thread is just yet another desperate plea for attention/clickbait with no evidence provided.

I don’t care about XYZ as I invest in coms. Those obsessed about this topic have issues and yeah that includes Mann.

 

[NameFu]

From Mike Mann on LinkedIn -

“Swetha is just an alias of Dan Negari. The vast majority of those high end .xyz sales are fake. The reason they appear to sell for BIN is because it is too complex and risky to use Afternic as a proxy to negotiate prices with himself.”

If this is true that would be unreal!

I've long suspected this and I believe dot Top does it as well. I don't trust any dot top or XYZ sales reported.

 

[alcy]

Any recent news? Those are sales from over a year ago. How is the current situation?

oh wow talk about old news.. but hey at least he didnt give salsa from 50yr ago...

 

[clarkemarketing]

I considered investing in XYZ a while ago when I had an opportunity to acquire one of the best single-words you could think of. I reached out to an acquittance for advice, as this person is a fairly well known "protégé" of Swetha and was publicly very bullish about XYZ in the past including on NamePros. He told me not to buy it, and that he now believes XYZ is borderline junk. I was shocked! Could he have come to the same conclusion as Mike Mann?

 

[eyedomainous]

As ~98% of registered domains never sell the only thing a professional domainer should publicly say when a sale is reported is Congrats! The question the industry should focus on at this time is; How to 'sell' more.

Domaining is still new. People are shocked when a name sells for millions... so its easy to caste the shadow of doubt on big sales, and not much bias framing can easily 'suspect' the sales person.

IMO, domainers attempting to publicly tarnish the sales of others debase the trade, like those that smear domainers as squatters.

If public proof is the measure, virtually every sale is suspect.

But, in The Domain Game. Playing games with names is the business.

 

[NameBuyer.com]

They lack the ability to research using Google and use logical reasoning. Good thing is I'll debunk you below using Google and logic..

Just a question, why in the world would you even bother looking up these sales? They are all single word domains that sold for under $20k (with the exception of Paramount which is high for obvious reasons). All these sales would be totally believable to any domain investor. These have no correlation with the "high end" sales Mike is talking about and your research actually supports Mike's claims more than you've "debunked" Mike's claims.

I came into this conversation neutral, but after looking at your research I'm leaving thinking maybe Mike & Rick were possibly on to something.

From Mike Mann on LinkedIn -

“Swetha is just an alias of Dan Negari. The vast majority of those high end .xyz sales are fake.

It is evident that Swetha haters have one thing in common. They lack the ability to research using Google and use logical reasoning. Good thing is I'll debunk you below using Google and logic..

Firstly I posted Crunchbase links because posting multiple links for each would make it too long. Also so people can see they're actual real companies and people can get context into what type of funding they got. Every company I posted can be verified by doing a bit of digging to find social profiles of founders, interviews etc.

Part 1

You say Kevin Rose's connection with Chia doesn't exist because it doesn't show on the Crunchbase, but right on the first page of Google after searching (Kevin Rose Chia), you will find a transcript from an interview he did with Tim Ferris where he talks about Chia.

Then you say he never mentioned it in his portfolio. But on the interview I have linked below he's says he's an investor at Chia Network via his company TrueVentures.com. Then if you go on the True Ventures website, you'll find an article where it is in fact mentioned. Checkmate..

Chia had raised like $70 million by the time of the $3995 purchase of chia.xyz. The actual founder is Bram Cohen, the founder of BitTorrent. Chia actually uses chia.net and in a normal scenario they'd redirect the .xyz to their live site not an individual investor which even solidifies the proof of the sale happening to Kevin Rose himself. It's common knowledge that Kevin uses .xyz for his crypto related projects like moonbirds.xyz & proof.xyz

Quote about his investment here on Tim Ferris Podcast in 2021: https://tim.blog/2021/08/20/random-show-kevin-rose-nft-crypto-transcript/




And here's Kevin Rose talking about Chia on Twitter before the launch in 2021:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1372310031366909954

True ventures (Kevin Rose company website) talking about Chia in 2018: https://trueventures.com/blog/chia-network-digital-currency

Checkmate.



Part 2

Also out of 54 I posted, you choose 4 that redirect as your evidence that it's fake? Laughable. Most of the others that I link to have developed sites and are linked on their Crunchbase profile. For the others you'd have to dive deep and do more investigation like I do..

Also there are more than 54 & soon in another post, I'll show more..

I chose to mainly link to Crunchbase when possible so people who can't believe the sales due to whatever reason, most commonly the belief that xyz is ugly, spam whatever can see funding rounds of these companies, which makes them realise that a company who verifiably got funded millions can afford to spend $50k on a domain extension that is popular in their niche.

Now you can think it's stupid to buy xyz, monkey picture NFTs, dog named crypto coins or whatever but the fact is there are people with huge budgets who like these things.

Some of the ones I mentioned which don't list the domain on Crunchbase and may require additional digging because I'm not here to spoon-feed people with every little detail:

Mesh.xyz ($9888)- I linked to the consensys main Crunchbase profile. Here's the mesh profile. https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/consensys-mesh

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/consensys-mesh/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/ConsenSysMesh

Paramount.xyz ($45,000)- I linked to the main paramount Crunchbase.
The website shows powered by recur.com.
Press release by paramount: https://ir.paramount.com/news-relea...comcbs-enters-strategic-nft-partnership-recur

Recur Twitter talking about .xyz website:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1511822412614029318

Dragonfly.xyz ($19,888)- I linked to Crunchbase which shows the website as https://dcp.capital which actually redirects to dragonfly.xyz

But if you literally visit the website it shows you their social profiles which use .xyz

Twitter: https://twitter.com/dragonfly_xyz
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/dragonfly-capital-partners/

Fractional.xyz ($14,888)- I linked to the Crunchbase which shows tessera.co. A little digging shows it was rebranded from Fractional to Tessera. The Crunchbase link slug literally says fractional. They are well known in the NFT space. They were initially using fractional.art before switching to fractional.xyz then rebranding.

Rebrand news: https://fortune.com/crypto/2022/08/17/nfts-fractional-tessera-paradigm-20-million-funding-round/

Tessera tweet about rebrand:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1582114380627742727

You can follow the same process of extensive research for any of the names I posted above to find evidence of end users.

Part 3

Regarding your islands, objects, pallet & clubhouse claim of redirects making them fake, here's my response.

Pallet.xyz ($4888)- They actually used to operate on xyz before they bought .com and started redirecting .xyz. So you just checkmate yourself there. Just search on twitter and you will see that every link before 2022 is pallet.xyz even from the official Twitter account.

Pallet tweet:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1414988434482077709

Islands.xyz ($3495)- Here's Tiffany Zhong, the co-founder talking about islands on twitter. It was once active, but now redirects to todaytoday.app. Also she only follows one account on twitter right now which is the profile of todaytoday.app

https://twitter.com/x/status/1488590011758833671

Objects.xyz ($6000)- Jason Toff is currently building rooms.xyz publicly via his company things.inc. There's no direct claim of using objects.xyz for a standalone website. It only redirects to things.inc. Obviously if it was bought just to secure the word and redirect, there won't be any mention of it but all evidence points to him owning it.

Why I think he bought it? He talks a lot about 3D objects for example here:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1583285859797078018

And in this article on meta.com as he's an ex FB & Google dev: He actually helped Google launch a project called Poly Objects (discontinued project) as he was the AR/VR lead..

Article link: https://www.meta.com/en-gb/blog/quest/google-launches-blocks-on-rift/

This was the link to the poly project in the meta article: vr.google.com/objects

Guess what, the URL linked in the meta article ends in OBJECTS. And rooms.xyz is a continuation of the vision of this project via his company as Google shut Poly down..

He talks more about Poly and 3D objects here:

https://twitter.com/x/status/925756648215531520

Quote from meta article about 3D objects:



Clubhouse.xyz ($4995)- I can't find much and I assumed it was simply a redirect, to .com but I found this tweet from 2021 where a clubhouse user was asked how they got a screenshot for analytics of their room & they linked to monitor.clubhouse.xyz

Clubhouse monitoring tools were a big thing and it only seems logical they had their own tool.

Tweet: https://twitter.com/LcswNidhi/status/1406703771405664259

Do you want me to spoon-feed you with more research?

 

[Mize]

There should be a question or two that Swetha should be able to answer to put this to rest....versus guessing. Then if/when this topic returns, just point to the question or two and her response to save everyone who is curious or guessing time.

 

[Finest]

I am unsure of the veracity of either side's claims without substantial evidence. However, if concrete evidence were to emerge supporting one party over the other, I would readily provide my full support to the party proven to be truthful and will forward my Dick.xyz to one lying.

Plus one, minus the Dick.xyz thing because I don't have any xyz.

 

[Grilled]

Time to Think Outside the Blocks, Gentlemen...

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This thread was a most interesting read -

Thank You All !

You have been distracted by XYZ

I follow Lottery.com ticker symbol LTRY

The company owns lottery.com AND sports.com

( for which they paid six million - if you believe... )

Their share price CRASHED to eight cents a share

they have fifty million shares issued and outstanding

so this gives them a market cap of Four Million

Deflation has arrived, and the Dot Com Bubble

has only just begun to burst - so I am OUT, Gentlemen !

Cheers !

I have no idea how the quoted (Saturday) "bubble" post relates to this abcdefhijklmnopqrstuvwxyz thread, and knowing it's doubtful namePros investors effected the Lottery.com stock, I just found it worth noting that today (Monday) the next trading day following said "bubble" post, that $LTRY jumped 51%.

 

[MKA]

Hey Astner, I do get what you are saying and understand your suspicions.... I am not trying to argue, just sharing my opinion.

Maybe I am wrong, but I am choosing to be optimistic and believe that Swetha is for real and making the sales. She is doing something right that is helping her make the sales....

and like I said.... maybe Swetha is connected to people who know people and get intros to those in need of domain names.

I am making assumptions about her way of doing business... and what may be the *thing* that gives her an edge, to get that sale.

Maybe, she is studying the markets, business, financial, startup sectors, trade venues.... etc. Swetha may be finding niches, startups, and people that are getting ready to do something....

Somehow, she is finding opportunities where she can sell her domains. Much like a reporter who gets the scoop before someone else does....

Don't get me wrong, I also think most sales are real. But that's because she's catering to the crypto/NFT/web3 crowd on twitter, promoting posts like this gem right here:

This is of course not something unusual in this community where people are encouraged to "cease the moment" and invest their life savings into a new coin, or some new NFT-project, with the prospect of selling it a few months later for ten times the amount they paid for it.

Some people buy .xyz domains for scam projects, trying to capitalize on the hype established with .xyz as a gateway into web3 and whatnot (because a lot of people seem to be under the impression that .xyz is decentralized), and some might buy them for investment purposes like they do with NFT:s, thinking that the price-tags on Swetha's site are warranted.

You may certainly attribute it to cunning, but let's not pretend it's anymore than sensationalist spam on social media directed at a group known to be frivolous with money.

And let's not forget, the recent top sales all belong to Swetha.

 

[otismo]

looks like she now has to top $200,000 this year or she will lose the mo-mo crowd -

and they won't just stop buying...

 

[NicTraders]

I have no idea how the quoted (Saturday) "bubble" post relates to this abcdefhijklmnopqrstuvwxyz thread, and knowing it's doubtful namePros investors effected the Lottery.com stock, I just found it worth noting that today (Monday) the next trading day following said "bubble" post, that $LTRY jumped 51%.

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It might be Namepros investors after all. Based on the fact that the company had a Market Cap of $4mil, but owned more than $4mil in domains (just between the 2 mentioned here). I'm not in the US, but if I were, I probably would have seriously considered buying some stock.

 

[niamodsnod]

This has never been about facts, truth, or reality.

No amount of proof that Swetha and her sales are real will stop these idiotic attacks.

Like coming forward on video or being a participant in something she has to speak on? I do believe most people that have that accomplishment cannot be proven. Huge LOL

 

[Igor Mironyuk]

people think that xyzs are good because of Sweetha so that may have played a role in your sale

I sold WhoisPrivacy.xyz for $72 here, at NamePros Auctions.

 

[niamodsnod]

maybe when u got 20k most sellable 1word etc names even if in pretty.crappy extension like xyz then u get luxury of having 5 and 6figure sales few times per month. even so make no mistake about it this is only happeing to a single person on earth. not 2 or 20. its.just human nature to queston something that's happening to one person on earth.

That and the good names like bike.xyz have no value outside of hers. The S.S. Swetha is high in the Gulf while other so called great .xyz names are about to sink in a pond.

The all boats rise didnt work in this case. If .xyz super duper premiums are that it wouldn't take corporations to just be buying it would be going up universally in my opinion!

 

[MadAboutDomains]

The prudent keep their knowledge to themselves, but a fool’s heart blurts out folly.
(Proverbs 12:23)

Surely it's the fool's mouth that blurts out folly...?

 

[dirk]

Tldr: Some people are just overly obsessed with others.