question Expired domain. How many days before $80?

[WhoaDomain.com]

So had a bunch of domains expire. There was an issue with the card.


So they tell me yea yea it's "recoverable" .....sureeeeeee! @$80 a pop!

They said I only had 18 days "window of opportunity" to renew normally.

I misunderstood thinking I had 45 days.

Why did I think this??! Is 45 days the time for something else?

I think my other domains also expired over at another registration ( same card issue).

That registrar I think if I remember correctly said I had 45 days.

Did this other registrar change their grace period?

I do recall with with this "problem" registrar that they give you 45 days to delete domains you autorenewed for full refund.

Could that have confused me?

The domains are with a GoDaddy reseller.

Can someone clarify this for me?

I'm assuming these time frames are the same with all registrars.

I have a scheduled phone call with the rep later today.

He said he will work out a deal for the domains that expired past the 18 days.

With a "significant" discount.

Now I wonder how much "discount" from $80 can there be?

I bet it will be $50? I'd be happy with $20 but probably going to be $30-$40.

Any advice ?

Did different registrar's have different redemption periods?

 

[Dmytro]

Standart lifecycle for gtld:

The Auto-renew grace period lasts 45 days. During these 45 days the registrar must to delete the domain, after that it gets refund from the registry for auto-renew. But WHEN specifically the domain will be deleted - it depends on the specific registrar. Each registrar MUST (according to the ICANN rules) place on the website info about it deletion policy. Most registrars give 30-44 days for renewal at standard price. But Godaddy gives only 18 days.

Godaddy deletion policy - https://www.godaddy.com/help/what-happens-after-domain-names-expire-6700

 

[usernamex]

@Avtar629 - you don't have to tell GD anything

There is a one issue - did you have privacy on any of the domains before they expired?

You can do a BULK Auth Code request and get every auth code at once rather than futz with them one by one

https://www.godaddy.com/help/get-authorization-code-via-download-19030

 

[premkumar]

@Avtar629 you are far better, Dotster say it sold my domain in auction after 30 days expiry not even grace period reached. I am fighting it out . Guys look out your domain at domain.com registry,

 

[RevolutionaryDomains]

So had a bunch of domains expire. There was an issue with the card.


So they tell me yea yea it's "recoverable" .....sureeeeeee! @$80 a pop!

They said I only had 18 days "window of opportunity" to renew normally.

I misunderstood thinking I had 45 days.

Why did I think this??! Is 45 days the time for something else?

I think my other domains also expired over at another registration ( same card issue).

That registrar I think if I remember correctly said I had 45 days.

Did this other registrar change their grace period?

I do recall with with this "problem" registrar that they give you 45 days to delete domains you autorenewed for full refund.

Could that have confused me?

The domains are with a GoDaddy reseller.

Can someone clarify this for me?

I'm assuming these time frames are the same with all registrars.

I have a scheduled phone call with the rep later today.

He said he will work out a deal for the domains that expired past the 18 days.

With a "significant" discount.

Now I wonder how much "discount" from $80 can there be?

I bet it will be $50? I'd be happy with $20 but probably going to be $30-$40.

Any advice ?

Did different registrar's have different redemption periods?

Understanding the process may help you moving forward with regard to names with GD, or their affiliates.

...gl

https://www.godaddy.com/help/what-happens-after-domain-names-expire-6700

What happens after domain names expire?
Once a domain name expires, it goes through many stages before being released to the open market. GoDaddy sends five renewal emails to the GoDaddy account owner prior to the expiration date. Below is a timeline based on .com domain names.

These timelines do not apply to ccTLD domain names.

Days after expiration Action
Day 1 We make the first of three billing attempts to renew the domain name.
Day 5 We make the second billing attempt. If the billing fails on the day of, or auto renew fails, the domain name expires and is immediately set to parking. The domain can be renewed by the registrant at no extra cost.
Day 12 We make the third and final attempt to renew the domain name. The domain name can still be renewable by the registrant at no extra cost.
Day 19 The domain name can be renewed by the registrant for the cost of a one-year renewal plus an $80.00 redemption fee.
Day 26 We add the domain name to an expired domain name auction.
Day 36 The expired domain name auction ends. If there are no backorders and no bidders in the expired domain name auction, we list the domain name in a closeout auction.
Day 41 The closeout auction ends.
Day 43 We assign the domain name to the winner of the expired domain name auction, backorder, or closeout. If there are no bidders, we return the domain name to the registry.
A registrant can renew an expired domain name at no extra cost up to day 18. If they renew an expired domain name anytime between day 19 and day 42, they must also pay an $80.00 redemption fee. The domain name might not be available for renewal after day 42.

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https://www.godaddy.com/help/recovering-expired-domain-names-5018

Recovering Expired Domain Names
You can attempt to recover expired top-level domain names (TLDs) during the renewal grace and registry redemption periods. In addition to the cost of renewal, you might be required to pay a fee for the domain name recovery. For more information, see Can I renew my domain name after it expires?

To Recover Expired Domain Names

1. Log in to your GoDaddy account.
2. Next to Domains, click Manage.
3. From the Domains menu, select Expired Domains.
4. Select the domain names you want to recover.
5. Click Recover.
6. Select the renewal length for the domain names, and then click Next.
   Renewal lengths for multiple domain names can vary depending on maximum renewal lengths allowed by each domain name registry.
   
   
7. (Optional) Select the registration and website options you want to apply to your domain name renewals.
8. Complete the checkout process.

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https://www.godaddy.com/help/can-i-renew-my-domain-name-after-it-expires-609

Can I renew my domain name after it expires?
In many cases, yes. It depends upon your domain name's extension and its registry rules.

If the registry for your domain name extension allows it, we hold your expired domain name for a few days waiting for you to renew it. For many domain name extensions (such as .com, .net, and .org) there is a grace period allowing you to renew the domain name after expiration without penalty. After the grace period for these extensions, you must pay a redemption fee plus the cost of regular renewal if you want to keep the domain name.

For some domain name extensions, primarily country code (ccTLD) extensions, there is no grace period. Once the domain name expires, you must pay a redemption fee plus renewal to keep the domain name.

Our Process for Handling Expired Domain Names
The process we, the registrar, follow for expired domain names depends on your domain name extensions and their renewal settings. Prior to expiration, we send multiple emails to remind you to renew your domain names.

If you set your domain names to automatically renew, we attempt to renew the registrations for you the day after expiration. If we are unable to bill you due to changes in your account, we park your expired domain names and notify you via email again.

If you have recently updated your credit or debit card, you can change your payment method for auto-renew. You can also change your contact info at any time to ensure that auto-renew works seamlessly.

If you set your domain names to manually renew and you let your domain names expire, we park your expired domain names and notify you via email again the day after expiration.

For expired .com, .net, .org, .info, .biz, .us, .ws, .name, .cc, .mobi, .me, or .tv domain name registrations, we hold your domain name for approximately 42 days before canceling it. Domain name renewal during this period is subject to applicable renewal and redemption fees. For more information, see What happens after domain names expire? and Recovering Expired Domain Names.

Automatic Renewal
If you set the domain name to automatic renewal, when your domain name registration expires, we take the following steps before canceling it:

• On the day after your domain name registration's expiration date, we attempt to bill you for the domain name renewal. If we cannot renew the domain name (for example, your card on file expired), we notify you of the domain name registration's expiration and park your domain name. You can manually renew your domain name.
• On the 5th day after expiration, we email you additional notifications. You can manually renew your domain name.
• On the 12th day after expiration, your domain name remains on hold but becomes subject to a redemption fee. You can call customer support to renew your domain name, subject to any applicable renewal and redemption fees.
• On the 25th day after expiration, we put your domain name up for auction with a domain name industry auction service. You can manually renew your domain name, subject to any applicable renewal and redemption fees.
• On the 42nd day after expiration, we cancel your domain name. We delete all services associated with the domain name.

The registry might hold the domain name before releasing it for general registration.

Manual Renewal
If you did not set your domain names to automatically renew, when your domain name registration expires, we proceed with the following steps before canceling it:

• On the day after your domain name registration's expiration date, we notify you of the domain name registration's expiration and park your domain name. You can manually renew your domain name.
• On the 5th day after expiration, we email you additional notifications. You can manually renew your domain name.
• On the 12th day after expiration, your domain name remains on hold but becomes subject to a redemption fee. You can manually renew your domain name, subject to any applicable renewal and redemption fees.
• On the 25th day after expiration, we put your domain name up for auction with a domain name industry auction service. You can manually renew your domain name, subject to any applicable renewal and redemption fees.
• On the 42nd day after expiration, we cancel your domain name. We delete all services associated with the domain name.

The registry might hold the domain name before releasing it for general registration.

For information on manually renewing your domain names, see Renew my domain.

 

[RevolutionaryDomains]

did not see this post. Thanks. Good read. but none of this gives you a "heads up" that domains can be transferred within a certain time frame after expiration date.

SNEAKY!!

Nothing sneaky, IMO. The key is not waiting until after your name expires to try and transfer away, or renew it, especially waiting so long after expiration. Remember, GD gives roughly three months of reminder emails and account notifications, plus an additional 18 days after it technically expires and officially passes the respective renewal date, which totals near four months of opportunity to renew. It seems logical that if you can't decide to spend 8 bucks to renew a name in that time frame, it's probably best to let it drop, IMO.

 

[Name Trader]

do u guys know if I can pay redemptoin fee at gd and get back domain expired 60 days ago? if so, til when is the max? day 70?

whois still shows my name there. cheers.

We don't hear much discussion about post 45 days after expiry discussions on GoDaddy. My take would be that GoDaddy take away the previous owners rights before the 45 day period, and so you probably are not going to get much help from GoDaddy to renew a domain which went thru their auction process without any bids. Since they consider you to no longer be the owner. Even if ICANN say, you are the ONLY person who can renew the domain in the Registry Redemption Period. You probably need to act forcefully, and pay an unspecified amount of redemption fee, in order for them to renew the domain with the Registry. I would imagine it's going to be a long hard road, to embark on. Best of luck. One word of advice. Don't ask support. You should probably go thru your Account Manager, if you have one. @Joe Styler .

 

[DnFolk]

guys guys guys! lol are you guys suggesting I can transfer domains that are basically past the as Godaddy says 18 No $80 fee renew as normal timeframe?

I'm confused here.

you guys giving me hope but I think you guys are confused maybe?

They are saying I'm "in" that $80 to redeem my domain point in time right now.

I don't think I can transfer or do anything with these domains at this point until I pay up.

or am I wrong?

You are wrong, good news for you that you can transfer domains at normal rates without any redemption fees. i transferred similarly at least 4 domains in past 2 weeks. all at namesilo.

You can transfer the domains till 42 days after expiration without any redemption fees. You just need to get authorization code and allow / approve the transfer yourself in email.

 

[DnFolk]

i see I see.

how much is namesilo reg fee for .com? name.com is $9.99

8.39 and its quite smooth so simply go for it without wasting your more time.

 

[DnFolk]

Registrars are changing Admin emails. SO you could not accept the transfer request.

didnt matter for me as i was able to transfer successfully..

Thanks guys! so I shouldn't tell these Godaddy shady people until I start the transfer on Name.com side right?

I'll try this right now. but part of me feels since it's expired I won't be able to access the control panel at least for the expired domains.

follow the below steps

1. Log into your account.
2. Next to Domains click Manage.
3. From the Domains menu, select Expired Domains. You should see these names listed here.
4. Unlock the domains (hover your cursor over the green check marks and click to edit/change to unlock).
5. Select the domain you want to transfer out and then click Email Authorization.
6. you will receive transfer code in the email

 

[1Darko]

This is from ICANN regarding transfer of expired domains:
https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/name-holder-faqs-2012-02-25-en

My domain name has just expired. Can my registrar require me to pay for a renewal before I can transfer to a new registrar?

No. Your new registrar of choice can initiate a transfer request on an expired domain name once they receive the required authorization from you. Expiration or nonrenewal of a domain name is not a valid reason for denial of a transfer request.

Note that if the registrar has already begun the deletion process on the domain name and its status shows it to be within a 30-day Redemption Grace Period, the name must be restored by your current registrar before it can be transferred.

My registrar is listed as the Administrative Contact for my domain name and this is preventing my transfer from going through. What do I do?

If you are listed as the Registrant for the domain name, you can ask your new registrar of choice to send the required Form of Authorization to you rather than the Administrative Contact.

You can also update the data associated with the domain name and name a different Administrative Contact. Some registrars offer an online interface tool for you to manage this data yourself; others can make these updates if you contact their customer service.

Where can I go if I have a question that is not answered above?

If you have questions about the transfer policy, please contact your registrar or you may file a complaint with ICANN by going to http://reports.internic.net/cgi/registrars/problem-report.cgi.

 

[usernamex]

@Avtar629 - you don't have to wait for the Auth Codes to be emailed if you do the "Export List" - you can just download it. The email notifying that it's ready seems to take hours, sometimes I never even get the email

From here - https://dcc.godaddy.com/dcc50/
on the upper part, the little yellow button with a plus sign that says "More", choose "Export List"

Name it something clear like - August 5 export auth codes

Then choose what to export, and make sure to check box "Auth Codes" and create your list.

Wait a minute, choose "More" then "Manage Exportable Lists" and you should be able to download it, if it isn't showing try again in a few minutes

Did a test earlier and exported five domains with Auth Codes, waited one minute the clicked "Manage Exportable Lists" and it was ready to download right away

Still no email an hour later

Export List
https://www.godaddy.com/help/creating-exportable-lists-in-the-domain-manager-3681

Download Exportable List
https://www.godaddy.com/help/download-exportable-lists-in-the-domain-manager-3678

And yes they are legit having slowness issues today

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

So awesome how this thread is TOP. I'm glad I asked. I'm sure there are some newbies reading this now and never knew the info on here.

Glad to help!

Thanks to all!

Good to all on your domains!

 

[Name Trader]

nope........ not there........

I don't look into expired domains section.. but I think they more or less leave that place around day 45 or so..

I'm talking about .com of course.

At least it's still you in the whois

 

[usernamex]

@alcy - yes you can, by ICANN rules, you are in the mandatory 30 day RGP Redemption Grace Period. Do you actually want to pursue it, or are you just asking so you know for future reference?

https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/errp-2013-02-28-en

My best research shows is it is still only $80, and they really have to pay the registry a fee so likely there won't be any flexibility on the fee
https://ca.godaddy.com/agreements/ShowDoc.aspx?pageid=reg_sa
Section 3B
If your domain name is deleted, the Registry also provides a 30-day Redemption Grace Period during which you may pay GoDaddy a redemption fee and redeem your domain name. The redemption fee is currently $80.00 USD and is subject to change under the terms of this Agreement. If you do not redeem your domain name prior to the end of the Registry's Redemption Grace Period the Registry will release your name and it will become available for registration on a first-come-first-served basis.

It's not quite manual, but some hoops are involved, see page 16-19 of the PDF transcript here:
http://www.domainsherpa.com/chris-ambler-domain-name-expiration/

@Avtar629 - do you mind this related detour? If so we can start a new thread.

 

[GoKaizen]

Epik is best for transferring expired GD domains.

Only need to unlock domain with Auth/EPP code. Does not require approval emails.

@RL @Slanted

 

[1Darko]

are you SURE?
I mean I can transfer them over to my Name.com account right now if this is true.

or

I could "soft" threat them that this is what I want to do.

perhaps that will "let this go" I mean I am a good customer with them.

FUNNY how this REP neglected to "MENTION" this "OPTION"

The Bastards!

Can some more people CONFIRM this option? before I proceed?

20 mins left

give me one domain with auth code and I will show you!

 

[420domainer]

You can unlock all the domains at once, then you must request the Authorization code for each domain individually.
Take these codes and transfer the names out- I use namecheap.com- usually shows up in a couple hours over there. Not sure about your registrar, but Godaddy will let you do this up until about 40 days past original expiry, even though their own reps will tell you this is not possible. So incredibly unprofessional that I have had to tell about 5 different representatives that this si an option after they repeatedly trey to get me to pay them $88 a pop! So so unprofessional, that is straight up scamming people!

 

[DnFolk]

How much time since there has been no email? Yes call and tell them that you want Authorization codes right now, if they talk about system BS, then ask how much time will it take and show your dissatisfication, question that none of your customer can get authoriation codes? are you sure? take them for a task, follow up on the time they claim it will take for the system update or whatever excuse they are trying to give. I am quite sure it will be resolved.

 

[Michael Daigle]

Depending how many names you have at godaddy, they may give you a break after 18 days and renew for $20 plus registration fee. I've done this many times, even when there were auction bids on the names.

Good to know that I have the option to transfer out to either name.com or Namesilo.

 

[DnFolk]

they were saying call tomorrow???/ hmmmm I don't trust it

what reason did they gave? anyways wait for one day, dont listen to any excuse and be clear that you want authorization codes right at the moment you get them on call, dont appear as naive, make sure they know that you are aware that you can transfer the domains legitly, dont sound confused, be confident when you are talking with them. and you shall easily be able to get the codes.

PS every few hours you can keep trying to get authorization codes after unlocking. it may work randomly.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

what reason did they gave? anyways wait for one day, dont listen to any excuse and be clear that you want authorization codes right at the moment you get them on call, dont appear as naive, make sure they know that you are aware that you can transfer the domains legitly, dont sound confused, be confident when you are talking with them. and you shall easily be able to get the codes.

PS every few hours you can keep trying to get authorization codes after unlocking. it may work randomly.

Will do Kimosabe.

This Paduan will follow the Jedi Master. lol

Thanks. I've got all night.

 

[boziffous]

didnt matter for me as i was able to transfer successfully..



follow the below steps

1. Log into your account.
2. Next to Domains click Manage.
3. From the Domains menu, select Expired Domains. You should see these names listed here.
4. Unlock the domains (hover your cursor over the green check marks and click to edit/change to unlock).
5. Select the domain you want to transfer out and then click Email Authorization.
6. you will receive transfer code in the email

Exactly what @DnFolk said here.

There was a similar thread to this one posted a couple months back.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/sh...daddy-or-let-these-go-euphemisms-net.1022779/

 

[siddardha]

After you get the auth codes, checkout LCN.com for the transfer rate
I think its the cheapest for transfers

 

[Name Trader]

after it's completely transferred I did let some go.

Have you got the auth codes yet? I'd be quite surprised if a GoDaddy Reseller had different terms to GoDaddy regarding their grace period of 42 days.

 

[Name Trader]

@Avtar629 - I think since you now have the Auth Codes you should immediately transfer them to NameSilo. They are a very good, domainers, registrar. Unlike GoDaddy. You won't be disappointed with their service.