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It's not anything new. You build a brand new website on a brand new domain and are disappointed to find that search engines like Google won’t index your pages.

There has been a lot of talk in the net about Google and the supposed Google ‘sandbox’. The ‘sandbox’ is supposedly a filter that keeps new websites and new domains from ranking high in a short period of time, sort of like a probationary period for new websites. Many believe this probationary time is to prevent new sites from mixing with well established websites.

Lately, many webmasters have complained that this probationary period lasts 3, 6, 8 or more months depending on the website.

I’ve read a lot of articles regarding Google and the supposed sand box, and it’s clear to me that if this filter does exist, it’s definitely due to the rise in useless spammy websites. Over the years, people have made a lot of money by throwing a crappy no content websites and covering it up with ads. I’m sure you’ve seen some of these sites. A webmaster will scrap content together that makes no sense to the human reader, but apparently fools the search engines into believing there is actual content. You click on them and it’s filled with adsense, flashing banners, pop ups and other useless crap.

But it’s not just spammer issue, maybe Google’s not to happy with the idea of webmasters putting up sites with little content just for Google adsense revenue? Or, maybe Google isn’t too happy with the wave of domains parked and don’t want sites such as these mixing with well established, content relevant sites. God only knows what Google’s true motives are in this case….but I’ve been thinking, maybe there’s a way to get on Google’s good side so that my brand new websites can get indexed quicker…. Maybe Google figures maybe if a spammer or 'out to make a quick buck' webmaster sees zero traffic, they'll pack up and go home....or they'll just drop the site.

If this Google sandbox is created to separate the spammy low content sites from the legit, then maybe there maybe there philosophy is ‘if it walks like a duck, smells like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it is a duck.’ Meaning, if you do things a spammer would do, maybe it'd trigger some sort of red flag?

If I built a spammy site I would first create a website with zero content and fill it up with ads. Then I would submit it to every directory and link exchange program there was. Then I would submit it to every search engine. If my site didn’t get traffic in a few weeks or months, I’d dump the site and start over. Or atleast, maybe that’s what google thinking spammers do.

But the thing is, a lot legit sites do the same thing.

So I’m going to do a little experiment and see what happens. I’ll keep you posted to the results.

*First, I’m going to build a brand new site on a brand new domain and fill it with at least 20 pages of relevant information/articles based on the site’s theme or keyword. then let it grow by 1 or 2 articles every other week.

*Second, I will not place any advertising…affiliate ads, commission junction ads, etc….with exception of 1 Google search box and maybe 1 Google link bar ( I know if I put an adsense add on my site, Google will visit my site to match the content). It’s very tempting to decorate a new site with adsense, but maybe it’s better to keep ads off until there’s a consistent stream of traffic?

*Third I will not submit my site to any search directory with exception of major ones like Yahoo and Dmoz….(another reason why adds are turned off ;) )

*Forth, I will not submit my site to any search engine, even google. The only thing I might do is submit a sitemap for easy indexing of my site.

*Fifth, I will drop my link on related website, blogs, forums, and other sites that allow me to do so. Many forums such as this will allow you to place a link as your signature. Many blogs allow you to add your website to your comments, provided that you do not spam their site.

Last, I wait. I’m willing to bet that my site will be indexed relatively quickly by Google if I don’t beg them to do it. I know that if I have a few well placed links on a trusted established website my site will eventually get indexed. If all else fail I know that the secret is patience.

Keep in mind that this only applies to new sites/new domains....old domains should already be pals with google, yahoo, msn, and a host of other search engines

Anyway, I’ll keep you posted to my results.
 
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Of course your site with content will do better than one this only ads.

Other things to keep in mind is topic and competitiveness of the keyphrase you're targeting.
 
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Where are the articles coming from? Will they be unique? Either way it will be interesting to see your end results. Thanks for taking the time to share your expirement and I hope you keep us updated as the months roll on.
 
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neobodhi said:
Where are the articles coming from? Will they be unique? Either way it will be interesting to see your end results. Thanks for taking the time to share your expirement and I hope you keep us updated as the months roll on.


I am going to mix it up, 1/2 from article db's and 1/2 from me. I will also add a blog and a forum....
 
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Isis said:
I am going to mix it up, 1/2 from article db's and 1/2 from me. I will also add a blog and a forum....

With that approach I would suspect you find yourself out of the sandbox in no time! I registered a name last weekend and created the website (in my signature) over the past week. I have already been indexed and recieved a couple clicks from google searches. It is a real website though, not built for adsense but built with a purpose. All the content is unique but I did use a secret weapon to get it indexed quickly.

I'm nowhere near ranking for my keywords but if I'm indexed and receiving Google search traffic then I can't be in the sandbox right?

Any ideas of how that reflects on "sandbox" concept? Hope this info helps you in your expriment. Feel free to PM me with any questions that might take this thread off topic.
 
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