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ok so after this EPIK LLC letter, i started reading posts , then STOPPED, NEW THREAD and ill take a contrary view to most.. maybe im just an optimist.
https://www.namepros.com/threads/th...m-via-masterbucks-wallet.1284050/post-8933371
Ive not lost as much as others, and i cant begin to know how to fix the past, but the intro letter is about as good as i can hope for.
The not terrible news, in my opinion, is that EPIK:
1. didnt go bankrupt
2. didnt take all renewals to $39.99
3 didnt pull a registryfly and leave .com customers with fake renewals (although i dont know when verisign stopped being paid)
4 old management is gone
5. names always worked, accounts were accessible.
and i think many people would have told you was 100% sure epik would somehow just disappear, lock the doors and we'd all be out domains.
the unknown news - masterbucks people, and im not sure its covered yet what happens to them
THE BAD NEWS - at certain registries, most notably Godaddy and i fault them for this - we lost .co .tv and .us domains and the registry seems to be saying thats between you and the registrar - and i say baloney. - especially if godaddy expired auctions sold the names. The registry waived redemption fees during the lockdowns, so i know its possible and they cant say against the rules.
And ICANN should have something in place where a registry (who always says they dont deal with customers) cuts off a registrar - the registrants dont suffer, escrow the renewal funds, do something but the INDUSTRY should learn form this and have a solution when a registrar cant pay.- since most registrars work on low margin - MOST OF WHAT WE WERE PAYING GOES TO THE REGISTRY -
so they shoudl eb able to do this.
BUT IM ALL ABOUT NOW and moving forward.
so moving forward, EPIK II
1. for names with godaddy registrar .co, .tv and .us that said they were renewed but were not, can the new OWNERS work with the registry and ICANN (who missed the boat) to avoid redemption fees and let customer have their renewals done for the year paid for.
2. if not, will you at least refund the money the current cash in epik should reflect liabilities for names where money was taken and no renewal processed.
3. even if the worse news, names gone, can you help provide an accounting of what renewals didnt take place, we have to know to decide to rebuy, pay redemption and TO KEEP NAME FROM GOING TO EXPIRED NAME AUCTIONS.
4. on that note i think EPIK should stop selling customer names in expired name auctions at snap/godaddy etc so customers at least have the full grasce period and redemption rights, or can registrar after they go through pending delete. - much like everyone did in the pandemic.
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https://www.namepros.com/threads/th...m-via-masterbucks-wallet.1284050/post-8933371
Ive not lost as much as others, and i cant begin to know how to fix the past, but the intro letter is about as good as i can hope for.
The not terrible news, in my opinion, is that EPIK:
1. didnt go bankrupt
2. didnt take all renewals to $39.99
3 didnt pull a registryfly and leave .com customers with fake renewals (although i dont know when verisign stopped being paid)
4 old management is gone
5. names always worked, accounts were accessible.
and i think many people would have told you was 100% sure epik would somehow just disappear, lock the doors and we'd all be out domains.
the unknown news - masterbucks people, and im not sure its covered yet what happens to them
THE BAD NEWS - at certain registries, most notably Godaddy and i fault them for this - we lost .co .tv and .us domains and the registry seems to be saying thats between you and the registrar - and i say baloney. - especially if godaddy expired auctions sold the names. The registry waived redemption fees during the lockdowns, so i know its possible and they cant say against the rules.
And ICANN should have something in place where a registry (who always says they dont deal with customers) cuts off a registrar - the registrants dont suffer, escrow the renewal funds, do something but the INDUSTRY should learn form this and have a solution when a registrar cant pay.- since most registrars work on low margin - MOST OF WHAT WE WERE PAYING GOES TO THE REGISTRY -
so they shoudl eb able to do this.
BUT IM ALL ABOUT NOW and moving forward.
so moving forward, EPIK II
1. for names with godaddy registrar .co, .tv and .us that said they were renewed but were not, can the new OWNERS work with the registry and ICANN (who missed the boat) to avoid redemption fees and let customer have their renewals done for the year paid for.
2. if not, will you at least refund the money the current cash in epik should reflect liabilities for names where money was taken and no renewal processed.
3. even if the worse news, names gone, can you help provide an accounting of what renewals didnt take place, we have to know to decide to rebuy, pay redemption and TO KEEP NAME FROM GOING TO EXPIRED NAME AUCTIONS.
4. on that note i think EPIK should stop selling customer names in expired name auctions at snap/godaddy etc so customers at least have the full grasce period and redemption rights, or can registrar after they go through pending delete. - much like everyone did in the pandemic.
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