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"End User" Perceptions

Labeled as question in Brandable Domain Discussion started by ThatNameGuy, Nov 1, 2019.

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  1. ThatNameGuy

    ThatNameGuy Upgraded Member Gold Account VIP

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    BrandPro - invalid - NamePro??? What name resonates most with end users? "Brand", "Domain" or "Name"? I know from my experience many business people don't really know what a domain is, however they know what a brand, and a name are.

    I believe this is why most domains, 98 of 100 are hoarded and stay on the shelf. Any way you cut it, that's deplorable:xf.frown:

    Regardless of the definition of "Brand", and the belief an "end user" relates to it more than "Domain", don't you think a marketplace for domain names would best be identified using the term "Brand" like; BrandableBrands.com

    Any other thoughts, views or opinions? Thanks
     
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  2. BrandStarters

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    This post was timely. I just registered OnlineBusinessBrands.com yesterday for future use and I couldn't agree with you more. Presenting domains as "brands" seems to be an easier way for end users to relate as many of them won't see the inherent value of a domain name as is.

    The approach I take is to add value to the domain name ie. logo + mockup + social accounts then present to end users the "brand" for sale. Of course the added time it takes to do this for each domain has to make sense and the ROI needs to be there.

    But in my experience it's an easier way to increase the value perception of your domains for sale. I'm currently working on a system to streamline these processes, including outreach so hopefully I can share more in the near future.
     
  3. biggie

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    makes no difference wtf they call it, when they contact you and ask "how much".

    imo….
     
  4. BrandStarters

    BrandStarters Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Hmm..if that’s what you think then obviously you only sell domains as domains and don’t increase perceived value.

    After receiving inbounding inquiries, I “stage” my names and make them brands and sometimes even starter sites. Have increased prices by 1000’s of percent on several sales doing this.

    But yea every investor has their own strategies.

    Cheers!
     
  5. ThatNameGuy

    ThatNameGuy Upgraded Member Gold Account VIP

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    I like OnlineBusinessBrand, and I too have about a dozen domains with the keyword "Brand" in the name; ArkBrands.com, BrandableRx.com, ReBrandRx.com and Brandenomics to name a few. Of those I named Nameworth values ArkBrands at $44,500, and while I don't think it's worth that much, it may have that sort of value to a branding company of which there are thousands of them worldwide. This is where a smart "outbound" sales program might help.

    Note, I've discovered that re-banding is almost as big a deal as branding itself, thus I own ReBrandRx.com

    Thanks, and I'll try to reach to you through PM if I have anything of a sensitive nature to share. Good Luck!
     
  6. MSN-Domains

    MSN-Domains Established Member

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    Thinking of Brands. I have registered a couple i value at $100k+

    GotBulloney.com
    GetBulloney.com
    MyBulloney.com
    Bullonify.com
    BrandsByBulloney.com
    reBulloney.com
    BulloneyCBD.com

    @ThatNameGuy Would you like to broker these?
     
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  7. NameDeck

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  8. MrAcidic

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    Funny.....think they need to sort their own branding out...

    "Join us, branding is a the best way to success!"
     
  9. Trinicon Industries

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    @MSN-Domains

    Nice collection of Bulloney Names!

    Totally Reminded me of My Bolgna by weird all.

    Coincidentally mybologna.com is only 50 bucks. Might wanna add it to you collection.
     
  10. NameDeck

    NameDeck Design. Develop. Deploy. VIP

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    Hahaha, true that.
     
  11. biggie

    biggie Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Hi

    yeah, that's pretty much how it is

    I and probably the majority of other domainers, offer domain names for sale, as is.

    what you are doing is basically an in-house brand production, rather than listing on sites like sh, bb and the others in that group, who offer the logo and domain as a package.

    the diff is, you put in the work, so yeah, you deserve all the extra duckies

    while, I on the other hand, ain't/aren't/am not trying to increase the perceived value,
    because it is what it is, and what it is, speaks for itself.

    your margins are cool, and i'm cool with mine too
    and sure, you might make a little bit more...
    but I do less work, than you :)

    imo…
     
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  12. BrandStarters

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    I don't do the work, my team does ;)
     
  13. biggie

    biggie Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    lol

    well, I do less work than your team and I don't have to pay no workers.

    :)

    imo...
     
  14. BrandStarters

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  15. Grilled

    Grilled khjasdhkfdhdskfhhukdfshkj VIP

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    Gaaah.

    I told myself I was done hand regging today.

    Then I saw this thread and added four more:

    B r a n d N a m e D e v e l o p e r (.com)
    B r a n d N a m e D e v e l o p e r s (.com)
    B r a n d N a m e D e v e l o p i n g (.com)
    B r a n d D e v e l o p i n g (.com)

    I couldn't figure out which one I liked most, and before I knew it. :facepalm:
     
  16. NameDeck

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    Like the last one. Can't believe that was just sitting there.
     
  17. Brands.International

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    Well, I named my marketplace Brands / International, not Domains / International, because as I see it, I basically sell Brands, not Domains really :)
     
  18. Brands.International

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    When we speak about it, I recently purchased Brands / City , it is cute and kind of short :)

    Brands.City.png
     
  19. Grilled

    Grilled khjasdhkfdhdskfhhukdfshkj VIP

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    It's been "just sitting there" since July 25th of this year.

    Here's how my registration cycle / train of thought went:

    See this thread > remembered Brand Name Developing dropped today > checked to see if Brand Name Developers was available, which it was > then checked if Brand Name Developer was available, which it was > then figured there's no use regging Brand Name Developing if I was going to reg those two > until I last second checked to see what Brand Developing was, and to my surprise, found it available. > figured I was going to get the shorter, I had to get the longer, if I insisted on getting the -er and -ers. Hence, how I ended up with all four. :facepalm:

    Edit + Ramble: writing -er and -ers prompted me to check the .com availability. ErAndErs.com is available for hand reg. Think his and hers. Was registered for a year in 2017, then dropped.
     
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  20. NameDeck

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    Thanks for elaborating :) It's a lot like my own chain of though when doing handregs actually.

    I've not been doing many handregs lately... for some reason. They've always brought me decent sales so should dedicated some time every day again to catch some of those rough diamonds myself.

    I like the excitement of finding those. It's way more satisfactory than the usual backorder or auctions :)
     
  21. Larion

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    The internet is now 50 years old and highly intelligent business people still don't understand what a "domain" is and still don't understand the value of a "domain".

    Isn't that strange ? :bag:


    Well, I guess they will learn rather quickly when nobody visits their physical retail-store, their physical company, their physical bank, their physical organisation, etc. anymore. :coldfeet:

    But many of them are not internet-savvy, so they will never learn.
    But they are experts with using Facebook and WhatsApp.

    "Visit us on Facebook" O_o :ROFL::hilarious:
     
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  22. ThatNameGuy

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    Dirk...as a professional narcissist I don't sleep much, and I just love the hand reg game. I certainly didn't need any more names with either "Brand(s)" or "Domain(s)", but sometimes you can't help yourself....these two names just popped out from nowhere so I reg'd them;

    PopsBrands.com
    and
    PopsDomains.com

    I say nowhere, but I'm not so sure about that:xf.confused: After registering these two domains and seeing one had been registered before and the other had not, I started looking to see what more "Pops" domain names might be available. Not so surprising I checked for the name PopsDiner.com and discovered it was not only taken, but someone was asking $29,999 for it at GD. Hmmm...i thought?
    I then remember eating at a Pops Diner a couple of years ago, so when I check it out, they're an actual chain of restaurants with a pretty good reputation. Doing a little more research, i see where they don't even own their own domain, rather PopsDinerCo.com.....go figure? I know it's hard to follow a narcissists logic, but I think Pops Brands and Pops Domains may have evolved from my having eaten at Pops Diner years ago?

    The only thing I can say is these two domains sure beat the hell out of BrandBucket and BrandPa. I wonder if they might want to re-brand:xf.rolleyes:
     
  23. ThatNameGuy

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    Say...are you as funny as you look:xf.laugh: You're a pretty creative guy
    You know I'm the original Bulloney who reg'd the name in 2017, but someone else owns it now. I don't know why someone would pick the name up after I dropped it,but maybe they were thinking they might take a ride on my coattails. You all really don't know how famous you made me, just ask Rob at Epik. I guess I should have purchased BulloneyBrands.com and BulloneyDomains.com today instead of PopsBrands.com and PopsDomains.com....what was I thinking:xf.rolleyes:

    Thanks for all the attention you pay me....it's really appreciated:xf.wink:
     
  24. AGAME

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    It is sad that people know what Facebook (IMO today's AOL) is but dont realize that facebook.com is the domain name. But that is how it goes. There is a generation or two of people who still do not know what a domain name is.

    I just had a garage door repaired and the guy (I'd say mid-40s) asked me "So, what is it that you do??". Among other things I mentioned that I buy/sell invest in domain names and he asked me "whats a domain name?" So that started the typical reply and you could see the wheels turning in his brain. :) He just never thought about it I guess and when he discussed it he seemed very intrigued and interested (unless he was a good actor!) LOL.

    But yes, probably more people than no know what facebook and social media is than they know what brands and domains are.
     
  25. xynames

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    If a co. is looking for a brand it knows this. If it is looking for an exact match domain it knows this also. Once it contacts you for a given domain it’s not going to up and change what it’s looking for and even if it did I assume whatever domain it sought out to contact you over is going to fit more of one category versus the other.

    With any domain as far as inbound you must wait for the end user to find your domain and trying to convince him that it is a good domain for him goes without saying
    https://www.namepros.com/threads/i-sold-a-domain-for-xx-xxx-now-its-parked.1160544/
    but trying to shoehorn it into something it’s not is a mistake.

    And building some sort of visual presentation for each domain stating what the domain could be used for could backfire if the usage presented is narrow in scope. Maybe you offer images to illustrate what a great domain this would be to sell washing machines when the potential end user wanted the name for a tech start up, and now you’ve turned him off.

    These “visual aids” are more needed for garbage brandables that wouldn’t sell otherwise versus top exact match domains that for the most part speak and stand on their own.

    And by the way That Name Guy / Bulloney, you’ve been musing at NP about the need for “visual aids” to help domain sales for years now it seems, and yet I don’t think you even have basic For Sale landing pages with a Contact Us form for your domains let alone any of the complicated build outs you’ve been talking about.
     
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