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Emails from domainers selling crap names

Located in Domain Buying and Selling Discussion started by biggie, Jan 3, 2012.

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  1. Fonzie

    Fonzie Established Member

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    You guys do understand how unimaginably damaging these chimps are to domain reselling, right?

    Imagine if you were tasked with selling premium, comprehensive car insurance for only $20 a month. You'd think it would be the easiest thing in the world to sell, since everyone else was already paying $50, $70, $200 a month. So, you start making phone calls but to your surprise, people are slamming the phone down the moment you mention you're selling insurance. Those few times you do get interested clients, you have to spend an hour allaying their suspicions and fears, to convince them that indeed, your $20 insurance is legit and worth their time.

    And why are consumers this way?
    Because of mentally retarded monkey salespersons who, for the past 10 years, have contaminated their phones with idiotic and pointless sales calls trying to sell them garbage that wasn't worth their time, nevertheless their money.

    It's getting to the point that people getting solicitations to buy domain names are viewing them similar to "Congratulations: You're Today's 10,000th Visitor. Click Here to claim your free IPAD"

    The only way to counteract this is to present the right kinds of domains- that will certainly pique their interest- and put it right in the title. Even then, a lot of end-user buying decisions are very impulsive and if they've been made jaded towards domainer solicitation, the negative buyer psychology will work against you regardless of how good your names are.
     
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  2. south

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    Just for fun I have started making offers for their names.

    Unfortunately for them, I'm using email addresses for honeypots.

    :P
     
  3. WGS_Thunder

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    Got one from dailysoldlist . com this morning. The subject line was a domain name I own Purchase. It was just a list of poor quality domains and not about buying one of mine. dailysoldlist Registrant Contact:
    NowYo.com
     
  4. biggie

    biggie Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    received email today from some newkidontheblockdropcatcher trying to sell me the .com version of the .net that i own.


    little do they know i used to own the ,com and dropped it a couple of years ago


    in this case the .net gets traffic but the .com doesn't :)
     
  5. DN BROKER

    DN BROKER Top Member VIP

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    pathetic people
     
  6. twomoon

    twomoon Amat victoria curam PRO VIP Trusted Contest Holder

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    I had one guy who emailed me around 3 times during the week offering me to catch for me a domain I was the owner and forgot to renew.

    "mydomain.com will be listed as available in a couple of days.
    The domain could be of use ... bla bla bla

    This is a priority offer and we are contacting you one time."

    After the 3-rd time I advised him to do his homework and to check whois before mailing people (whois was mine), and after around 2 weeks I registered it again without any problems.
     
  7. NLP

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    I also find repeat offenders like the spammers at Intrust Domains, etc., incredibly annoying, but when it comes to people emailing users with similar names, aren't we being a bit hypocritical?

    How many domainers use services like Estibot, ZFBot, and LeadRefs to look up owners of similar domains, specifically so they can sell to them? A few pages back, there was an example used of "dogpoop" and "catpoop" and names containing, well, poop.

    There's no guarantee that, as a domain investor, you are going to have any interest in acquiring or developing any new "poop" domains, but how is someone supposed to know that? What if you're in the business of lead generation, and you own a vast network of legal names, and the person has an "accident attorney" name? You'd be a likely candidate for a potential end-user for their name, assuming it's decent quality.

    I think the primary annoyance here is (besides the repeat offenders that send 4-5 emails a DAY) that the names they're peddling aren't good enough.

    I wonder if people would really complain if someone - who was emailing out of the blue - was offering up MortgageLeads.com (name chosen at random) for sale. Or something of similar quality.

    Of course, that would never happen. But although there ARE scammers out there, just because you end up someone's email list, don't necessarily assume it's malicious. Chances are they're just taking the advice posted in the "How to Find End Users" thread here and what they have read online.

    I just think it's slightly hypocritical of domainers as a whole to question that activity when it's something that, on some level, we have all participated in. That is...unless you've never PMed anyone on a forum with names for sale, or looked up an email address in the WhoIS and contacted someone about a name for sale.

    The key is to *not* do it for crappy names, not to do it repeatedly, and to respect the person you're contacting. :)
     
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  8. Kate

    Kate Domainosaurus Rex VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I don't think so.
    intrust riverside et al are not just pesky spammers. Based on volume and duration I think it would be appropriate to depict their activities as a well oiled criminal operation.

    But approaching end users without spamming is an art. Your approach must be thoroughly individualized and very relevant to the decision maker.
    Personally I like snail mail (with good stationary). It's less intrusive and has not delete button.
    Because I am extremely careful and selective I doubt you will find one bad review of myself or my company for spamming.

    But these days, I usually contact people to buy domains from them. The good domains sell for themselves. You can speed up things by being proactive but I find that you are in a much better position when you are not the one soliciting.

    That's the bottom line. Don't waste other people's time... and yours.

    Domainers pimping crap names give us a bad name, they also make us look like crooks desperate to offload junk onto another bigger sucker :p
     
  9. DN BROKER

    DN BROKER Top Member VIP

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    SCAMMER - [email protected] - [email protected]

    pathetic individual


    I have found out that you have registered a new domain *****************
    I can develop the website for you.

    Some websites I have developed are


    Can we please talk or chat ?
    Skype id : Shonti_kol
    Gtalk : dbose2012 [email protected] .com
    exthink7955 @ dataone .in

    Thanks

    Shonti
    Kolkata, India
    Cell Phone : +91 9804600501
     
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  10. dmi

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    Care to explain what has he done? I don't see anything wrong with this email. It's just another way of finding clients.
     
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  11. Theo Goodman

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    I hate these developer spams. I got the same one as above as well as many others. They scan whois for newly registered domains I guess.
    One I told to not email me again, he replied
    "ok tell me when you are ready with the project"
    >:(
     
  12. HBK216

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    LMFAO that last part is funny!
     
  13. Archangel

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    This @$$hole emailed me this daily for about a week, even after I told im I wasn't interested & to stop emailing me:

    This moron had no hope of ever doing business with me. lol
     
  14. bmugford

    bmugford www.DataCube.com PRO ICA Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I don't think I have ever seen a worse pitch.


    Hllo


    Friends, if you because of your site without
    a good domain name was not a significant
    grade website regret or anxious?we found that
    the domain( XXXXXXXX.co.in )is will help your business.
    If you are interesting, we would consider give a
    fair price to you! If you have any question,you
    can visit: [email protected] last,Sorry for
    the disturb if any.




    Best gards



    Wang
     
  15. Archangel

    Archangel randypendleton.com VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    If you're gonna sell a domain, at least assure your English is proper. lol

     
  16. TestCase

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    The newest ones I've received.
    Seems he is just learning to work his spam mailer as it actually contained "%Domain_Name%" instead of his intended domain.

    He seems to be getting the hang of things as his next came several hours later...

    His email domain, "intersolved.com" resolves to a GoDaddy parking page. Idiots! Just can't take anyone seriously these days...
     
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  17. Sull

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    Here are some of the more recent spammers / scammers that rotate their sending URL and "company" name almost every time. They pollute the market for the good guys in my opinion.

    Check this first "gem" out with two dashes. Awesome!

     
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  18. !!

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    hey, you never know, a rubbish domain name to someone could be an awesome domain name to someone else :D haha 1 persons trash is another persons treasure :D thank god i dont get these kinds of emails too often :D haha
     
  19. Domainace

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    The thing is, I've gotten this spam from some of the world's top domainers, the ones who are always in the news with 6-figure sales. I say spam not because the domains are bad, but because they barely relate to me. My email was obviously scraped and mailed to without any human checking on it.

    So that leaves one of two possibilities:
    1-The super domain hero is desperate and trying to raise cash any way possible.
    2-The spammy approach works.

    Personally, I send out very few emails. Within the past month or so, I've sent out one email (for a domain bought at a forum for $1-$2 - I forget.) That resulted in one sale. I am disappointed if I don't get a 10% to %30 response rate when I mail out, depending on how well vetted my targets are. This, though, takes time.

    I can see the benefits of just running some software and sending out a couple thousand mails. While they are less personal, they will also hit targets that I never would have found when vetting each person myself. And they save my time.

    The downside is that there is so much of this crap that domain sales letters will soon all go straight to the spam folder, next to the viagra emails.
     
  20. biggie

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    totally agree


    and with more people entering the domain world everyday, you can expect the volume to increase and quality to decrease.
     
  21. Kate

    Kate Domainosaurus Rex VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Received today from: manyco <[email protected]>
    Isn't it cute ?

     
  22. bmugford

    bmugford www.DataCube.com PRO ICA Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Another one...

     
  23. tonecas

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    that is a better pitch

    regards,
    tonecas
     
  24. Kate

    Kate Domainosaurus Rex VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    This one is slightly better.
    But it doesn't state why we were specifically targeted and why we should have any interest. I also don't like the unsubscribe link.

     
  25. Sull

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    Wow, not only is that a terrible .net domain name but he is completely lying. I had to check on the search results for myself out of curiosity.

    [​IMG]

    And the number of search results for "lame domain" is laughable...

    [​IMG]

    Honestly should always be the first policy in my book.
     
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2012

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