domain DubaiSafariPark.com -Million dollar domain

[Ravish Kapila]

So Dubai is making one of the largest Safari Park in the world which is about to open in early 2016 an they named it Dubai Safari park and i own Dubaisafaripark.com

Please appraise how much this domain worth? is it a million dollar domain?

 

[bmugford]

There is one potential end user. It is worth whatever they are willing to pay, assuming there is not a trademark issue. I doubt you would get more than $XXX range, if that.

Brad

 

[ulterios]

If it's not a Trademark now, it most likely will be soon and then you'll probably get it taken from you. If you can sell it now, I would do it as soon as possible.

I agree with bmugford in the value being in the $xxx range, if that.

Good luck

 

[Ravish Kapila]

Thanks a lot for your feedback. I have checked there is no TM registered yet regarding this name. But what if i registered this name before TM granted to them?

 

[ulterios]

Thanks a lot for your feedback. I have checked there is no TM registered yet regarding this name. But what if i registered this name before TM granted to them?

The date of domain registration usually has no bearing in matters of TM's. They can register the TM after you reg'd the domain and still take it from you through UDRP. It $ucks, but happens. That's why I was saying to sell asap.

 

[gilescoley]

It looks like the .ae is registered, they might be using that and not want the .com...this is very common in the UAE

Try and stay away from company projects though

 

[BaileyUK]

It would really come down how it can be 'Profitably Used'. Your Registration date is relevant if it came down to any legal challenge. (intent can be used as a supplementary argument) Clearly you only have one end user for a sale. When the Park opens. Of course you can use it for a 'Critique' But NO it's not a big-bucks name. I agree with 'gilescoley' comments above. Stay away from 'Published' one-off business projects with identifiable ownership (I've tried to be nice about my words on identity profiteering)

 

[Pandemic]

It's worth the reg fee, if even that. They already have the website up and running and they won't be needing your domain. These things are very common.

www.desertsafaridubai.com


Don't be out there spending that mill too fast, chief. Sorry for the bad news. Might be better off deleting the name so it doesn't clutter up your portfolio of domains as it's not even worth the reg fee. Sorry again for the bad news.

 

[Ravish Kapila]

It's worth the reg fee, if even that. They already have the website up and running and they won't be needing your domain. These things are very common.

www.desertsafaridubai.com


Don't be out there spending that mill too fast, chief. Sorry for the bad news. Might be better off deleting the name so it doesn't clutter up your portfolio of domains as it's not even worth the reg fee. Sorry again for the bad news.

Thanks for your input. but Desertsafaridubai.com is different business and Dubai Safari park is a zoo scheduled to open early 2016.

 

[Ravish Kapila]

It would really come down how it can be 'Profitably Used'. Your Registration date is relevant if it came down to any legal challenge. (intent can be used as a supplementary argument) Clearly you only have one end user for a sale. When the Park opens. Of course you can use it for a 'Critique' But NO it's not a big-bucks name. I agree with 'gilescoley' comments above. Stay away from 'Published' one-off business projects with identifiable ownership (I've tried to be nice about my words on identity profiteering)

Thanks for sharing your view ...

 

[Pandemic]

Nothing online about a "zoo", and this new one is hyping "2016". You might want to research online and you will find that you're referring to "Desert Safari Dubai" and that I am 100% correct.

Hypothetically. let's say I am wrong, which there is no chance of that. They will simply create a different domain name for it.

Also, when it comes to TM, you will be fine as the UAE doesn't honor "U.S. TM Laws".

Either way, it's not for a zoo and you should research it. I realize it's hard to let go of that lottery ticket and dream. It's very common.

 

[Pandemic]

Actually, it does look like they may be opening a zoo. It could be the one I already mentioned as it was suppose to be open late 2015. It's hard to tell. Research is everything... Seems like the same thing as I mentioned, but who knows.

 

[Ravish Kapila]

Actually, it does look like they may be opening a zoo. Make sure they don't already have a website. It could be the one I already mentioned as it was suppose to be open late 2015. It's hard to tell. Research is everything... They seem like the same thing, but who knows.

I have checked there is no website developed yet but .AE extension already taken. Its a Dubai Municipality project so was thinking of contacting them. what you think? plus everyone saying that its a TM issue so bit confused.

 

[Pandemic]

I didn't know the UAE trademarks any names at all, so you will have to look into that for the UAE.

Before you contact them, you may want to buy more variations of the name. It will be difficult to pick the exact name they would use, and they can pick virtually any name to sidestep whatever you would pick. They can use acronyms and several different words. Very unlikely that they will want one you have, unless you buy around 50 of them.

 

[BaileyUK]

I wouldn't advise contacting anyone - until your sure of your ground. (And a three minute peruse - says you don't hold that) You've registered the domain - So sit tight, Know when to hand it over (If it ever came to that) and when to negotiate. And I will say - If you don't know the answers, what the Hell was you doing registering a Known Business Entities .com to start with

 

[Ravish Kapila]

I didn't know the UAE trademarks any names at all, so you will have to look into that for the UAE.

Before you contact them, you may want to buy more variations of the name. It will be difficult to pick the exact name they would use, and they can pick virtually any name to sidestep whatever you would pick. They can use acronyms and several different words. Very unlikely that they will want one you have, unless you buy around 50 of them.

i will do some more research about it...Thanks for the info.

 

[Ravish Kapila]

I wouldn't advise contacting anyone - until your sure of your ground. (And a three minute peruse - says you don't hold that) You've registered the domain - So sit tight, Know when to hand it over (If it ever came to that) and when to negotiate. And I will say - If you don't know the answers, what the Hell was you doing registering a Known Business Entities .com to start with

yea i wont contact them now. will wait and do some more research .. didn't knew about this project when i regd this name came to know after few days. wanted to reg Dubaisafariclub.com and it was taken so took this one.

 

[ulterios]

Your Registration date is relevant if it came down to any legal challenge.

This is absolutely not correct. Do some research and you will see that in most cases the registration date has little if any bearing. The only way the registration date would most likely matter at all is if he registered this domain before the real safari was conceived and before and public announcements.

Domain owners lose domains often when they have even had the domain before a company/organization/etc. was even around. Do some research and watch the boards on this site more often and you will see domain owners losing domains exactly this way.

 

[ZapNano]

This is good, because I'm not an attorney; specializing in this area (TM). So I can only voice my reasonable opinion. "DubaiSafariPark" if a company wanted to have the TDN the dot com for their business, let say "DubiSafariPark.com" they would have registered this business before way they start building the park and the like. That is just a part of the plan. But they choose not to? They used other extension word instead for this business?

Now, for the domain holder of this name has no interest of building a "DubiSafariPark"? So there is no product or building to be trademark. In this regard, he only own the domain name TDN. DubiSafariPark can be a generic name, once you put the TDN it makes more proper. And it's show ownership.

Business, Mr. Kapela see an opportunity and think that they might need this domain name for this business? So he registered it. Finders keeper.

Example: 2 or 3 months ago, I read an article about "Google" as we all know that they are huge; billion dollar industry. So, in this regard they have all kinds employees that can monitor in all areas of their company.

What happened? The Google was unregistered for a couple of second..minute. Therefore, it was available for registration. So, someone got lucky saw that Google was available for registration; so the lucky guy registered it for him. For a couple of minutes the new owner received a message saying it was an error. They did not know how it happened. In any event, the lucky guy got rewarded. And returned the "Google" to Mr. Page.

 

[gilescoley]

It's worth the reg fee, if even that. They already have the website up and running and they won't be needing your domain. These things are very common.

www.desertsafaridubai.com


Don't be out there spending that mill too fast, chief. Sorry for the bad news. Might be better off deleting the name so it doesn't clutter up your portfolio of domains as it's not even worth the reg fee. Sorry again for the bad news.

Wrong business, its still on schedule

http://gulfnews.com/news/uae/enviro...park-is-on-course-to-open-next-year-1.1330233

http://whatson.ae/dubai/knowledge/12320/dubai-safari-park-on-schedule-for-2015-completion/