.tv dot tv gone daft help domainers ?

[hullswingerscom]

lots of silly hand reg seem to be turning up this is good news for godaddy and enom only...it must be beter to go for one good premium.then the rubbish hand reg what are turning up.i say you experienced domainers out there help these new to tv before they wast there money by pointing this out when they ask for appraisals..on there new names.

lets help each other. :cy:

 

[mckennaronnie]

I would agree with you Hull#s that most of the new reg's i see Members ask for Appraisals on are complete rubbish but there is not much anyone can do to stop people reggin away hoping to 'strike it lucky'

I think what has happened lately is the news has spread a little about .tv growing in popularity and with a group of decent sales so lots of people have regged 100's of new .tv's with no hope of developing with the sole purpose of selling on for a massive profit.

I would definetley go with the advice most of the senior members gave me and everyone who joined the forum last year "Dont reg 100 average names, buy 1 great name"
I was lucky that when i 1st joined then there was some OK reg fee domains around so i picked up a few that were OK but if i was to start again now then i wouldnt even waste my time looking to reg new .tv's and would rather buy 1 very good domain in the aftermarket.

Those whoa re new to .tv should think more about what they will do with their domains, how could they be developed, who would maybe buy them, how brandable are they...........etc
Or better still, buy one decent name and develop it!! :D

Cheers,

Ronnie

 

[*AllThings.tv*]

lots of silly hand reg seem to be turning up this is good news for godaddy and enom only...it must be beter to go for one good premium.then the rubbish hand reg what are turning up.i say you experienced domainers out there help these new to tv before they wast there money by pointing this out when they ask for appraisals..on there new names.

lets help each other. :cy:

Some would rather not heed good advice. I think EQ has been saying this for years now, but peope need to learn the lessons they need to learn before they are prepared to listen and learn from those around them.

 

[gamehouse]

The learning strikes when the renewal time arrives, imo.

GH

 

[Ammudamus]

There are enough posts and conversations about risk, development, strategy and minimizing costs on this forum for new folks to educate themselves. As they say, "You can lead a horse to the water, but you can't make him drink."

Thanks,
A

 

[Steven]

I would try to get one very good domain from auction or premium domain section as an investment instead of registering countless poor domains.
However, I'm not against hand regging as I still believe that there are still good domains that can be hand regged (And also have a willing buyer for the domain you've registered).
Try to do all the research (OVT, google search trend, relevancy to .TV, any premium domains that contain the word and how much for it?)
Be patient with good names.
Don't try to reg it and sell it the next day.
If you truly believe in the name you've registered, hold it for a while until you get a decent offer.

 

[smashfactory]

after seeing the names that sold on sedo, it is getting harder and harder to say what is rubbish- rubbish sells folks-

you may have a handful of people who tomorrow can buy Home.com should it be for sale- a handful- the rest of the world cant touch it- so, the breakdown begins- eHome, iHome,home.org. myhome.info- and somewhere down there, someone will by homesr4u2buy.com- and be happy with it-

will it get top dollar? no, it wont- but lots of domainers are making fine profits selling 50 domains a week at 100.00 per domain as opposed to 2 domains at 2500.00 each-

there is more of a market for the 50-250 range domains than the 50,000 + domains- plenty of generics at sedo, dont see any money bags buying them all up- no market for them right now to pay those prices- journalists.com , wealth.com, equipment.com- everyone says invest in a generic- so why havent ya'll gone with your coin jars and bought these fantastic generics?

because, they are only for a handful of people- the rest of us have to figure out will myequipment.com make more than equipmentnow.com? etc...

 

[gamehouse]

I completely agree with that point. We started with .TV, then channel.tv, both so far going very good. Then we started with ...tv.tv, going fine so far. Next I assume the following will be the ones:

GoKeyword.tv, for example, GoMexico.TV (for development, its fine, I guess)

Keywordonline.TV for example MexicoOnline.TV, again for development, just fine, imo.

Lol, then MexicoMexico.TV, well, two same keywords should not hurt the search engine results, IMO.

Interesting times for .TV and I guess .com saw similar lines before.

All imo.

GH

after seeing the names that sold on sedo, it is getting harder and harder to say what is rubbish- rubbish sells folks-

you may have a handful of people who tomorrow can buy Home.com should it be for sale- a handful- the rest of the world cant touch it- so, the breakdown begins- eHome, iHome,home.org. myhome.info- and somewhere down there, someone will by homesr4u2buy.com- and be happy with it-

will it get top dollar? no, it wont- but lots of domainers are making fine profits selling 50 domains a week at 100.00 per domain as opposed to 2 domains at 2500.00 each-

there is more of a market for the 50-250 range domains than the 50,000 + domains- plenty of generics at sedo, dont see any money bags buying them all up- no market for them right now to pay those prices- journalists.com , wealth.com, equipment.com- everyone says invest in a generic- so why havent ya'll gone with your coin jars and bought these fantastic generics?

because, they are only for a handful of people- the rest of us have to figure out will myequipment.com make more than equipmentnow.com? etc...

 

[DnEbook]

I wonder what people said about the name ........google ?????? , i think i have made a few errors ......... but at godaddy 9.99 at least !!!!!

 

[del.icio.us]

Sorry I can't completely agree with Hull, or Ronnie.

There are several non-premium gems, still available to register in .TV CCTLD. Going for a premium name (with the larger renewal fee) would be a risky option than investing in multiple above-average domain names, imho.

I joined this forum two months ago, and started investing in .TV names in July.
All of my domain names are non-premium, and I didn't bought a single name in the aftermarket.

Here's a partial list of my .TV portfolio: http://www.namepros.com/2128524-post55.html

I regged these names at normal reg.fees.

I'm not discouraging people who purchase premium names directly from eNom Central, or from the aftermarket. I'm telling that still there are tons of good names available for normal reg.fee.

 

[TheBulldog]

I agree with Del. But only to a point. My list of names that are great and STILL available is shrinking fast. I keep a list of extensions and names that I think are worthy of devving. For TV, like other extensions, that list has been picked clean by the vultures.

What is left is getting iffy, in my opinion. There are still great ones left, but, and again, this is my opinion, there are under 20 single word domains left in tv that are worth regging. And those are long term plays. Everything else is 2 worders and above. Yes, those are worth something as well, but not, IMHO, worth as much as a decent keyword that works with the extension.

 

[equity78]

No there are not tons of quality .tv domains available to register unless someone is diluting the meaning of the word quality.

If there are tons how come I don't see tons of transactions in the .tv marketplace ?
ANd because you see a lesser quality domain sell on SEDO does not mean the lesser quality domains you have are going to sell. Even a blind squirrel can find an acorn, that is not a trend.

To not have the budget to buy a premium domains is fine, but to not say that and lie to yourself that your double adjective.tv is quality or is as good as a quality premium or some of the hand regs Domain Acrobat or Searching did 6 months to a year ago is just ridiculous IMO.

NO one is flipping 50 to 100 .tv for $100 profit in the domain world. .com sure everyday. But that not happening in .tv we were lucky we got sales at the Prime Time Auction and some of those were not even paid for after the auction. I certainly believe in the lower end flipping model but no one is flipping that many domains on a constant basis and having a way to replenish inventory.

Do not use thegolf.tv selling as an example as why your bad domain will sell for the same kind of money. That is a fools illusion IMO.

Sure there are some good hand regs, good compared to what people like ROY or JOHN or others pick up in the secondary market or on $100 to $300 drops on ENOM CENTRAL ? NO not IMO.

Most here own way too many $9.99 was not an excuse to reg bad domains. Maybe to reg protection domains, example if you own Norway.tv you pick up Norwaytv.tv and NorwayChannel.tv but for some lousy second rate adjective ? NO NOT IMO.

In this extension it is quality over quantity much more than in the .com world.
Again IMO

 

[Steven]

No there are not tons of quality .tv domains available to register unless someone is diluting the meaning of the word quality.

If there are tons how come I don't see tons of transactions in the .tv marketplace ?
ANd because you see a lesser quality domain sell on SEDO does not mean the lesser quality domains you have are going to sell. Even a blind squirrel can find an acorn, that is not a trend.

To not have the budget to buy a premium domains is fine, but to not say that and lie to yourself that your double adjective.tv is quality or is as good as a quality premium or some of the hand regs Domain Acrobat or Searching did 6 months to a year ago is just ridiculous IMO.

NO one is flipping 50 to 100 .tv for $100 profit in the domain world. .com sure everyday. But that not happening in .tv we were lucky we got sales at the Prime Time Auction and some of those were not even paid for after the auction. I certainly believe in the lower end flipping model but no one is flipping that many domains on a constant basis and having a way to replenish inventory.

Do not use thegolf.tv selling as an example as why your bad domain will sell for the same kind of money. That is a fools illusion IMO.

Sure there are some good hand regs, good compared to what people like ROY or JOHN or others pick up in the secondary market or on $100 to $300 drops on ENOM CENTRAL ? NO not IMO.

Most here own way too many $9.99 was not an excuse to reg bad domains. Maybe to reg protection domains, example if you own Norway.tv you pick up Norwaytv.tv and NorwayChannel.tv but for some lousy second rate adjective ? NO NOT IMO.

In this extension it is quality over quantity much more than in the .com world.
Again IMO

I completely agree.
Mostly, it's quality over quantity that matters the most for any extensions.

 

[hullswingerscom]

quality over quantity....that is the key to the dot tv...i do hope this thread does help any newbies .and hope they read a few post before they reg there first tv.
i wish i had.

 

[del.icio.us]

because you see a lesser quality domain sell on SEDO does not mean the lesser quality domains you have are going to sell. Even a blind squirrel can find an acorn, that is not a trend.

To not have the budget to buy a premium domains is fine, but to not say that and lie to yourself that your double adjective.tv is quality or is as good as a quality premium or some of the hand regs Domain Acrobat or Searching did 6 months to a year ago is just ridiculous IMO.

Do not use thegolf.tv selling as an example as why your bad domain will sell for the same kind of money. That is a fools illusion IMO.

Interesting,
I did not say my hand picked domain names are better than the best! Even if I have the money to buy the premiums, I will never go for them, again imho. :hehe:

This is also a calculation! Say if you are buying a $1500/yr premium name and looking for a nice return say xx,xxx or even high depending upon the name, tell me how many people of course end users will be interested in that name? There are only a few, and again if you tell the yearly renewal fees, most of them will turn back. In the case of premium names, only those who can afford the yearly renewal fees, will come for a negotiation. I do not depend on a narrow market with a single name, again imho.

On the other hand, you can register nearly 60 .TV names (as per eNom.TV pricing) or even more as per GD's promotional pricing instead of buying a $1500/yr name. Choosing the name is the key for success. Holding one premium is no way yield a higher parking revenue than holding a bunch of above-average, non-premium names, again imho.

Say if you have a premium name ($1500/yr), can you able to pay the yearly renewal fee of $1500 only from the parking revenue for that name alone?

Well, I am happy that the names I own are getting enough traffic and generating enough affiliate sales, from which I can pay their yearly renewal fees. Even if some of the names I choose fail, I will not lose a lot, and I can simply drop them after a year or at least I can try to sell them for $x or even a low $xx. Can you imagine, if your asking price is very high for a premium domain name, or if the end-user can't afford for the domain's yearly renewal fees, then what can you do? Will you drop the name that you have bought for $1500 a year ago? Or will you renew it for an another $1500?

Premium names are headaches, again imho.

If there are tons how come I don't see tons of

transactions in the .tv marketplace ?

There are several reasons for this:

1. Age of the TLD/CCTLD
2. Popularity of the TLD/CCTLD
3. Total Registrations in that TLD/CCTLD
4. Pricing
5. Promotion
6. Premium Pricing

Again, I'm saying that it is not my intention to discourage people who buy/register premium names.

 

[Kenny]

Although I am not a supporter of Premium Pricing, I don't see $1500 reg fee as a deterrent to end user sales of high quality names.

$1500.00 is a small % of any mid to large size corps advertising budget and if they are willing to pay xx,xxx for the name, they will understand this.


Plus, it's a tax write off.

Cy

 

[smashfactory]

all i was saying is crap sells every day - on snapnames, on sedo, not just yesterday, everyday- i am sure no one thinks crap is the next gold mine- but often a good name is passed up for a lesser quality because of the lack of knowledge in buyers- the pool of buyers out there have made choices time and time again to not get that 1500.00 name- it doesnt matter what size the company is- a nice midsize company that sells tires, and knows nothing about domains, may not know about how to domain, and pops in a name to see, wow, tires.com is taken! and then goes down to bobandjoestires.com-

i am not advocating going out and buying garbage, all i am saying is not everyone understands "domaining"- they just want a name. so you will often see names making a nice rio that you would never buy in a million years-