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It's funny how in a lot of cases, a thread which seems to have potential goes down the drain due to mindless cheerleading. What's even funnier is that I've started to identify several "warning signs". In other words, expressions which trigger the "cheerleader reaction". Come on, I'm sure you're familiar with most of 'em as well, here's just one example: dot com is king! :lala:

Now don't get me wrong, there's nothing awful about the expression itself. It may or may not be true, depending on the situation we're dealing with (more on that a bit later). But it's just one of those expressions which has been used so often and by so many people who don't have a clue that it loses every bit of substance it might have had.

Even though the thread is entitled "Dot Com Cheerleaders vs. ccTLD Cheerleaders", let's try to start the year without acting like little girls. Dot com, dot net, dot org vs. ccTLDs: that's an extremely important topic, I don't care who you are. Let's try to have a rational debate and turn this into a thread which actually provides value.

I'll go even further, here's a challenge. Let's turn this thread into a rational debate and analyze the one question which always ends up causing the most problems:

Dot Com Is King - Yes or No? (yeah baby, THAT question ;))

My answer: yes AND no. It all depends on the perspective we're seeing things from.

The most registered domains? Dot com obviously so from that perspective yes, dot com is king (yep, I've used the expression again).

The most "financed" TLD? Dot com again and that will never change, stop living in denial. Stop for a second and think about how much money is being invested in developing dot com properties, everything else will quickly seem a drop of rain in the ocean.

Money Talks

Dot com is not as popular as it is today because it sounds nice, because it starts with the letter "c" or whatever. It's popular because so much money is being invested in dot com properties on an international level that everything else seems like little league material.

If 99% of the world's companies would start investing exclusively in developing .abc domains for 15-20 years as of tomorrow, it's only a matter of time until dot xyz would "be king" (marketing 101). If you'll see .abc domains on tv, billboards and so on day in and day out over a period of let's say 10-15 years, what would you associate the Internet with? Exactly: dot abc domains. But that will never happen!

Why would it? Because you'd like to?

The Web might still be in its infancy but that doesn't change the fact that there's so much money involved that changing things at this point is next to impossible. When it comes to the WorldWideWeb (keep this expression in mind please, WorldWideWeb), dot com will always be king.

But (and here's when dot com cheerleaders will start sharpening their pitchforks) what about LOCAL MARKETS? Is dot com king? In most cases no and guess why: for the same reasons why dot com is as successful as it is on an international level!

If you're from Germany and watch CNN, read international publications or surf the Internet in general (youtube, social media sites, you name it), most of the domains you'll come across will be dot coms. So as someone who lives in Germany, you can't help but notice that dot com domains are unbeatable when it comes to the international market as a whole.

But on the other hand, if you're walking down the street and staring at billboards, what do you see? Yep, dot de domains. If you watch local television stations, which extension will you come across? Dot de! If you read the local paper or local magazines, which extension will dominate? The list could go on and on. When it comes to local markets, is dot com still king? Nope.

As far as I'm concerned, I can only answer the "Dot com is king - yes or no?" question with another one: "King of what?"

What about you (put the pitchforks down sloooooowly... breathe in... breathe out)?
 
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In some instances like .de and .uk can be very lurative I pernsonally wont reg anything other than a .com
reason number 1 is traffic its hard to reg a name with traffic in .com but almost impossible to reg a name in other extensions that get traffic except for a few good country codes like above, and no traffic = no revenue.
second much harder to sell. I reg long tailed domains in .com and still make parking revenue and sales.
ie: 1 6 word domain for 300 dollars which i should have sold for a 1k offer earlier and a 4 word .com for 2k any other ext and i wouldnt have had a sale both regged for less than a year
 
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It is quite obvious why local areas prefer CCTLD domains, a global business requires a .com, a local business requires a CCTLD.

Of course America appears to be the exception to the rule here.

If i was a builder, building homes here is Australia, why would i want any other domain apart from a .com.au?

If i was building a popular social networking site i would want a .com, no question.

If you are an investor in domains, there is simply more liquidity in .com, as many CCTLD domains have restrictions and a limited market.
 
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I don't see any rivalry between .com and ccTLDS, as they are for different purposes.
 
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.Com is obsolete with the opening of .CM. It's shorter and everyone knows that shortness is the latest buzz. _\|/_
 
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Can't comment. I can't find my pom poms :lol:
 
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The dust is slowly settling down...cctld's have emerged and looks like the strategy has to be .com and cctld of your choice. (its the other extensions with no clear purpose that will be lagging)
 
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Yes .com is king if we are talking value, everyone has heard of .com, its the most popular extention out there globally.

cctld's are also king of their own regions but not as valuable, the values are lower because there is less demand.

The down side that is coming is the watering down of domain name values because of the choice that is becoming available.

.com will be king for some time to come but watch out for the newcommer. :gl:

---------- Post added at 03:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:37 PM ----------

The dust is slowly settling down...cctld's have emerged and looks like the strategy has to be .com and cctld of your choice. (its the other extensions with no clear purpose that will be lagging)

Exactly right
 
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.com is king undoubtedly for a global brand. Investment is huge, brand recall is huge, till a few years back people just assumed .com after any brand, not any more though.

cctlds have made great inroads considering they're 10 to 15 years younger than .com As you've rightly pointed out, certain ccTLDs are getting huge brand inputs at the local level, like .de, .co.uk and .in

The keywords I have in ccTLDs would worth millions in .com, so I'm happy w/ my ccTLDs, coz I certainly can't afford the .com and aside from the age bit, the seo possibilities are just the same, specially for non-nexus cctlds like .in - its being used widely in Germany, Switzerland, Japan and Korea too.
 
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If you are an investor in domains, there is simply more liquidity in .com, as many CCTLD domains have restrictions and a limited market.
Yes sir, I agree with that logic. I like ccTLD's, but they do require a more focused effort to be successful.

By the way, you guys are the ugliest cheerleaders EVER. :sick:
 
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By the way, you guys are the ugliest cheerleaders EVER. :sick:
Wait till you see me in a skirt w/ pom poms and a ponytail. :lol:
 
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TBH, I don't know why this thread was started...

As the replies show, there's not a lot to say about this old chestnut that's new.


.com has earlier internet history, recognition, & global application/usage, through longer-term branding, in its favour - ccTLD's have local market relevance. Both have their place. Both can be 'King', depending upon a circumstance, usage, and need.

There's money to be made with astute investment in both.


What's new?

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.com is king for me as I live in the US and it is what I have been able to buy for $7 numerous times over the last 8 years on drops and sell to end users for xxx-xxxxx, also when end users ask me to hunt domains for them 99.9% of the time it is .com they are seeking, .com also carries type in traffic which not only converts like mad but helps with holding costs until the domains find that perfect end user buyer and other extensions will not have that today, I'm sure other extensions will become more popular over time but I gotta lean to what has been paying the bills over the years, If I lived elsewhere I'm sure I would dabble in other extensions but as of today I hold over 99% .com domains, If we must have pom poms then go ahead and imprint mine with .com, by the time other extensions could possibly trump .com I hope to be lying on a beach in florida retired with the only domains I own being used for my good handful of active websites, there is no right or wrong buy what makes you money and dabble in extensions you believe in for the future/longshot.
 
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I'm using .com and .tv for dev.

If my main traffic is from a specific country, and my business targets specific people from that country, I will use that country's ccTLD.
 
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My best keywords are in .US, although recently I have been trying to get some .coms too, but those are mostly long tail domains that I have made into mini sites.

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My portfolio is mostly .com but I also have domains in 20+ different ccTLDs (not exotic ones).
 
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edited because you are not worth my precious time.
 
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Hi mate, OP is just trying to get visitors to the SNAPNAMES auction on his link in any possible way as other recent posts from him here and in other places is trying to HYPE as much as he can.

Shill bidding is not enough with snappy these days. :sick:

LOL, what a loser:

1) He started a thread on namepros where he complained like a little girl that SnapNames didn't accept his lousy llll.com domain, I (as well as practically everyone else in the thread) called him out and he ended up making a fool of himself. Click here for more details, definitely worth a read.

2) Now he thinks that I somehow have something against him. At first he said I was John Mauriello, then he said that I work for SnapNames or Moniker (well, make up your mind: am I John or do I work there?) and now he is stalking me or whatever this is called, how lame can someone get?

Look, there are two types of people: people who make things happen and people who stay on the sidelines and complain like little girls. "It's Moniker's fault that my domains suck, I will never ever ever work with them again", this is an attitude only a complete loser can have. Wake up, work your ass off and maybe you will eventually end up owning domains which are actually worth auctioning.
 
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. Wake up, work your ass off and maybe you will eventually end up owning domains which are actually worth auctioning.


such as :

DiscountDrugstores.asia
???

:D

:bah: :sick:
 
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